Quick Drying - The Other Side Of The Coin

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fdd2blk

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Al B. Fuct said:
Dammmmmmn, they look like they grow a lot better over there than here!
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i love when i do a google image search and drag and drop an image onto this site, and then it suddenly disappears. are people monitoring their pics to see where they are being hacked to? "damn pot heads stole my gum tree pic." lolololol
 
GoodFriend

GoodFriend

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i was wondering how al b quoted a message that had nothing there from you faded...


i love the smell of eucalyptus =]
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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Al B. Fuct said:
Some of our exports, you really could do without. Mass plantings of eucalypts in SoCal do absolutely no good for your bushfire problems.
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Good Christ you've got that right. They tend to come down in high winds, too. Though there are some really pretty species that also smell just wonderful, very citrus-y. And I had a 'tiel for a few years who loved nibbling on the branches.
Al B. Fuct said:
I think the silica gel would stick to the resin on the buds and make a bit of a mess of things. You'd have to mechanically separate the buds from the silica gel crystals. Up to you how,
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Ahhh.. ok, gotcha. Then I've got to get that dryer built. He's gone through his brewing equipment and the lady is getting a lovely peach hefeweizen by Thanksgiving. 8) I told him, "Sweetheart, I NEED that bud dryer!" And now he's ready to put his mind to it.
Al B. Fuct said:
Well, you might try that and some stilettos, fishnets & a garter belt. One of the two might work. ;)
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This man is not so easily manipulated (I've tried). :rolleyes: It worked with all the others quite well, too, so imagine my dismay when I discovered his ability to resist the feminine wiles. However, just start talking politics and policy with him, and he's putty in my hands. :lol:
NewGrowth said:
Wow this thread grew quick!! Long read! Well I thought I would post my two cents:
I used to be a HUGE fan of slow hang drying buds mostly from info that I got from grow guides. I did it for a couple years when I was just growing a personal stash. However after working with perpetual harvest set-ups I found that it was just not feasible to have a bunch of bud literally hanging around for weeks at a time. I built a dryer similar to Al's minus the heat sink with a fan speed controller. It takes about 4 days to dry my bud in one of these. I have found that as long as the bud is not over dry and I have allowed the moisture to equalize after coming out of the dryer there is NO difference in taste/smoke compared to my slow hang dried bud. People that smoke my bud have never complained and never noticed the difference when I switched to the "fast" dry technique either.
In fact I just harvested my first outdoor grow and I built a larger version with a rubbermaid and a carbon filter and my buds are currently drying in it now and my room mates have no idea I have several pounds of bud drying in my room. :mrgreen:
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Really? Sans heat sink gives you a 4 day drying time? Didn't you say you're in the Rockies? Would it be safe to assume that the Rockies are about as dry as the western scarp of the Sierra Nevadas? (This dry air bungles the fuck out of my nose lately, too, it hurts.)


GOD I miss tropical air!

fdd2blk said:
in the time we have been on this thread, my weed has dried. lol
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Considering the initial post date of this thread, I'm gonna guess at least a couple of crops have dried. :D
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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tonydash said:
what do you mean? are you adressing my question on the other page?


i was wondering if dry heat is bad for drying buds... (drying in a shed)
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This may be the wrong thread, but I believe that Al B. answered the heat question very thoroughly. THC is a volatile ester. As such it degrades at relatively low temperatures, as he backed up 29C (84.5F) is that point at which degradation occurs. I hope this helps answer your question, because to me it means that dry WARMTH is alright, but once it hits 85F you're breaking down that lovely THC that makes us feel soooooo groovy.
 
tonydash

tonydash

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Seamaiden said:
This may be the wrong thread, but I believe that Al B. answered the heat question very thoroughly. THC is a volatile ester. As such it degrades at relatively low temperatures, as he backed up 29C (84.5F) is that point at which degradation occurs. I hope this helps answer your question, because to me it means that dry WARMTH is alright, but once it hits 85F you're breaking down that lovely THC that makes us feel soooooo groovy.
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Ahhhh :hump:

Yeah, Al was the first to address my post but I guess I just need reassurance or a more direct answer. I doubt the shed will get above 75-80 even in the hieght of the day now. Thanks SeaMaiden

Now I have to finish making my dry box. :weed: What type of string / rope do you guys use or prefer?
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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In one of fdd's photos it looked like plain old string to me. I think it was pink. Pink string, that's fdd's thing.
GrowTech said:
makes me feel all growvy
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Groovy, growvy, it all feels good, right? I need somethin' to groove on lately.
bongsmilie <-- using my favorite method.
 
Jointsmith

Jointsmith

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Seamaiden said:
This may be the wrong thread, but I believe that Al B. answered the heat question very thoroughly. THC is a volatile ester. As such it degrades at relatively low temperatures, as he backed up 29C (84.5F) is that point at which degradation occurs. I hope this helps answer your question, because to me it means that dry WARMTH is alright, but once it hits 85F you're breaking down that lovely THC that makes us feel soooooo groovy.
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Sorry but could someone direct me to the thread where Al B. 'answer's the heat question thoroughly'?

Cheers

JS
 
Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
I'm looking for a reference on that, my bookmarked link has gone dead.

On the hunt, I've found:

Lycaeum > Leda > The precise determination of tetrahydrocannabinol in marihuana and hashish

Some results with the internal standard method

Sampling error - twenty portions, each weighing 900 mg., were taken from a lot of carefully mixed "manicured" marihuana.2 The coefficient of variation, due to sampling, for the tetrahydrocannabinol content, was found to be 2.8 per cent. At the 2 per cent tetrahydrocannabinol level this would amount to an uncertainty (95 per cent probability) due to sampling of ±0.11 per cent tetrahydrocanabinol.

This uncertainty could, of course, be reduced by using larger sample weights. A 10 gramme sample, run 4 times, would have an uncertainty of ±0.04 per cent tetrahydrocannabinol (95 per cent probability) at the 2 per cent tetrahydrocannabinnol level.

Deterioration of marihuana with time and temperature.

Three samples of marihuana were kept at room temperature (approximately 24 °C), for a month and analysed for their tetrahydrocannabinol content at the beginning and end of the month. The results were as follows in per cent tetrahydrocannabinol:
Beginning of Month End of Month Difference
Sample A
2.41 2.29
-0.12
Sample B
2.07 1.99
-0.08
Sample C
2.20 2.14
- 0.06

All the differences are highly significant statistically (over 99 per cent probability).

A sample of Colombian marihuana which had been kept at room temperature since its seizure 61 months ago was analysed with the following results:
per cent
Cannabidiol
0.31
&#916;1-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol
0.12
&#916;6-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol
0.04
Cannabinol
2.03
2

"Manicured" marihuana is marihuana from which stalks and seeds have been removed by passing through a sieve. Crude marihuana, including stalks and seeds, has about a 35 per cent yield of "manicured" marihuana. Crude marihuana from which the stalks have been removed has about a 65 per cent yield of "manicured" marihuana.

No quantitative analysis was available of the original marihuana, but a qualitative gas chromatographic curve existed which indicated a large &#916; 1-trans-tetra- hydrocannabinol peak and a small cannabinol peak. The qualitative curve resembled current fresh seizures of marihuana, and one could fairly conclude that in the five year period practically all the &#916; 1-tetrahydrocannabinol had been converted to cannabinol. If so, and if an average original tetrahydrocannabinol content was assumed from the appearance of the original curve and the current cannabinol content, a conversion rate of approximately 5 per cent a month would be indicated. This is in rough agreement with the loss in tetrahydrocannabinol content (3 to 5 per cent) found above for marihuana which had stood one month at room temperature. 3

The conversion of tetrahydrocannabinol to cannibinol is in accordance with the hypothesis of Todd ([8] -[9] ) and Adams [(10)] that dehydrogenation takes place biogenically and Levine's observation[ (11)] that old hashish has low tetrahydrocannabinol and high cannabinol content.

A sample of marihuana which contained 2.32 per cent tetrahydrocannabinol and 0.17 per cent cannabinol was held at 100 °C for one month. At the end of that time no tetrahydrocannabinol could be detected and the cannabinol content had increased slightly, to 0.40 per cent. Obviously, at this temperature, there are other mechanisms at work than the simple quantitative dehydrogenation of tetrahydrocannabinol to cannabinol.

(3)Correlation of tetrahydrocannabinol content of marihuana and pharmacological activity.

One important recent development that has demonstrated the need for a precise tetrahydrocannabinol assay is Dr. Harris Isbell's observation [(12)] that response to tetrahydrocannabinol is statistically reproducible if the same subjects are used under the same conditions. Dr. Isbell's work was done with pure tetrahydrocannabinol. He found that 25 µg./kg. when smoked, was a threshold dose; for a 70 kg. man this would be equivalent to 1.8 mg. of tetrahydrocannabinol. A usual dose was about 5 mg., while a dose of 15 mg. produced depersonalization and hallucinations.

If these amounts are translated into a "normal" marihuana cigarette weighing 325 mg., it would appear that a tetrahydrocannabinol content of 0.5 per cent would be at the threshold level; 1.5 per cent tetrahydrocannabinol would produce the "usual" marihuana symptoms; and a 4.6 per cent tetrahydrocannabinol content would correspond to a mind-rocking depersonalization.
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Dr. Olav J. Braenden of the United Nations Laboratory has informed me that to avoid deterioration, the United Nations reference samples of marihuana are kept under nitrogen, at freezer temperatures.
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see also:

Chemical Stabilization of a ?9-Tetrahydrocannabinol Prodrug in Polymeric Matrix Systems Produced by a Hot-melt Method: Role of Microenvironment pH

still looking for the 29C reference.
 
Al B. Fuct

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
This is kinda interesting. The patient information sheet provided with the commercialised cannabis pill medication Marinol sez:
STORAGE CONDITIONS
MARINOL® (Dronabinol) Capsules should be packaged in a well-closed container and stored in a cool environment between 8° and 15°C (46° and 59°F) and alternatively could be stored in a refrigerator. Protect from freezing.
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