are you saying the Tuskegee experiments and MK Ultra are not real?
Nope, I'm saying that pointing to one thing as evidence for another thing is simple, easy, and works for any hypothesis. It doesn't take a denier or a shill to find "you should believe in my conspiracy because other conspiracies have happened" to be less than convincing. It only makes sense if we assume that anyone who doesn't agree with us must think the government never works against its people, never does things in secret, and deserves our unquestioning trust. If that's what people believe, then pointing out other conspiracies and betrayals is appropriate. The problem is, that's not what anyone thinks.
Conspiracy mongers aren't called out because they think the government is capable of manipulation and false flags, they are called out because they form these conclusions minutes after events occur, before any information has come in, and then dismiss, cherry pick, or manufacture details as the story emerges to maintain their conclusions. This does not count as investigation, it counts as mere narrative construction, which is the easiest thing in the world to do. Connecting the dots is easy when everything counts as a connection. Then, everyone else is narrowly confined to three categories: woke, sheep or perpetrator. Anyone who doesn't agree is either ignorant, part of the conspiracy or being paid to disagree. There is no room set aside for the possibility that the conspiracy narrative is simply wrong. While it's possible that this approach may sometimes stumble upon truth, the usual outcome is absurdity, which is why we have people who think the Earth is flat, the Earth is hollow, and the Earth didn't exist before 6000 years ago. People think that giving children bleach enemas will cure autism, that rhino horn cures cancer, and that putting drops of aged urine into their eyes will help them detox. All of them, without fail, point to conspiracy as proof, and all of them, without fail, evoke the Tuskegee experiments and
MK-ULTRA as evidence.