1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm

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max420thc

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Wisher2 said:
these were hit 1.5ec directly from the womb
these are about 2 weeks from a popped tail
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this is just how I do it
and only recommend my techniques to those who understand what I do
for the rest
I always suggest the most minimal of options.
bare basics
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By the way, nice plants. But I wouldn't feed any sprout with much of anything until it has legs under it. Just me but what do I know, I only pull two to four grams a watt
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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max420thc said:
By the way, nice plants. But I wouldn't feed any sprout with much of anything until it has legs under it. Just me but what do I know, I only pull two to four grams a watt
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the reality is I know for a fact you are a troll

you obviously cant read as I stated clearly that the recipe was for her control bucket experiment with no plant in it
but since you get 2-4# a light which literally means nothing as I get 8-10 lbs per plant
here is the reality
indoors I grow in coco
I start my seeds.....yes my seeds not another breeder
my seeds in a paper towel
once a tail has sprouted
I place in coco tail down and hit with 1.5ec base nutrients
no calmg
no extra anything
just base nutrients
once roots pop the bottom in about 2 weeks
I up-pot to 4"pots
in 2 more weeks I take cuttings of the seed plant
I then drop to 18/6 light schedule
once sex is shown
I toss the males with their clones
and flower the clones
if I find a cut I like I will keep it
if not
the moms go outside and are grown out to 8' trees

again

my recipe is for myself and the others in my crew
as we all have different variations as we all have different methods
but for the coco
this is what we do period

the recipe for her is for a CONTROL BUCKET to see what it does
and to rule out anything that she may be doing nutrient wise

here are some babies getting HAMMERED with 1.5 ec
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here they are literally 10 days later
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the plant on the bottom right....already on a cycle
tryin to catch some zzz's as I run these under 24 hours

so as you can see
1.5 ec right out of the gate def can take a toll and kill plants quickly

and here is the proof
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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I start my cuttings in about 1 EC but when I transplant into the trays I drop the EC down to half that. The reason I do this is I got lazy a while back and used res water, the fact was, it worked rather well, no science just a case of the lazies lol. So now they get res water and honestly I get no signs of burning, which surprised the hell out of me. To OP, it was the pic that threw me off on the lower plant, although still not the picture of health, it is growing, I now see there is no brown in the middle, good luck getting this sorted.
Is there still no roots? I guess there is a pile of hydroton there, I typically have a tap root at 3-4 days after transplant but that’s in a 5” net pot
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Budley Doright said:
To OP, it was the pic that threw me off on the lower plant, although still not the picture of health, it is growing, I now see there is no brown in the middle, good luck getting this sorted.
Is there still no roots? I guess there is a pile of hydroton there, I typically have a tap root at 3-4 days after transplant but that’s in a 5” net pot
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There are roots for both - just not through the net pot in the dwc and as far as the Water Farm goes, I really dont want to shuffle the hydroton around just to see how much the roots have grown, I dont want to damage them.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
There are roots for both - just not through the net pot in the dwc and as far as the Water Farm goes, I really dont want to shuffle the hydroton around just to see how much the roots have grown, I dont want to damage them.
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No don’t do that lol. Again not familiar with waterfarm so I wasn’t sure if it was easy to see. It will be interesting to see if the EC rises in the trial pot, not sure WTF is going in with that. I’ve been using the same hydroton for 4 years now so I can’t remember what my EC did when new, knowing me I would not have spent more than the time it takes to get clean run off :). I do use a pressure washer to clean my stuff in a 5 gallon pail with a screen bottom. It works well, in the winter I take it to a car wash bay ;).
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Eureka! I found the following at http://www.lycaeum.org//~sunny/ALT-EC-TDS.html

For 5ml in 1 US Gallon (3.785L) of distilled water
TDS/ppm EC/mS EC/uS
Micro 430 0.614 614
Bloom 200 0.286 286
Grow 280 0.400 400
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Total 910 1.300 1300


Use the 1ml figures for predicting concentrations before preparing a mix.
For 1ml in 1 US Gallon (3.785L) of distilled water
TDS/ppm EC/mS EC/uS
Micro 86.8 0.124 124
Bloom 40.0 0.057 57
Grow 55.2 0.079 79
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Total 182.0 0.260 260


Example: What is the TDS/ppm for a GH mix consisting of
6ml/gal Micro, 12ml/gal Bloom, and 2.5ml/gal Grow.
Micro 6 x 86.8 = 521
Bloom 12 x 40.0 = 480
Grow 2.5 x 55.2 = 138
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1,139 ppm
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NOW I can correlate that correctly to the appropriate number of gallons!
 
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Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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max420thc said:
You just seen two seedling get smoked didn't you? Now the question is why you would feed a sprout when it doesn't need or want it? Another question is why you would direct someone to feed a seedling that does not need food to sprout? Or immediately after sprouting ? Unless you wanted them to kill a sprout?
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Smh
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Eureka! I found the following at http://www.lycaeum.org//~sunny/ALT-EC-TDS.html



NOW I can correlate that correctly to the appropriate number of gallons!
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so my recipe of
2ml Micro
1ml Bloom
3ml Grow
is 377ppm
which is roughly 400ppm like I said

adding the 4ml calmg will bump it to roughly 450ppm

IMO is perfect for running DWC

I actually got this recipe from someone who ran DWC a long time ago
should be good for a control bucket experiment
IMO I do believe your spike in ppm as well as PH has to be do to the hydroton or something else in the bucket itself

good luck and wishing you great success
if these seedling fail , hopefully you have more and we can get you started again but on a much better track covering all your bases
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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max420thc said:
By the way, nice plants. But I wouldn't feed any sprout with much of anything until it has legs under it. Just me but what do I know, I only pull two to four grams a watt
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how often you go around bragging about your yield? My experience tells me that ppl with that skill dont hang out on boards begging for recognition. Maybe you are just young Max.
Wasnt Jim Carey son named max in liar liar?
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Eureka! I found the following at http://www.lycaeum.org//~sunny/ALT-EC-TDS.html



NOW I can correlate that correctly to the appropriate number of gallons!
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Awesome find.. Wisher usually knows all that stuff by heart.. Hell his hydro shop in Cali, even sends him home with free nutes all the time for him to do free runs of and give his thoughts. He deff isnt reciting no other site, and he doesnt need you to go to another site to see his pics..
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Thanks @Wisher2 ... and yup got more seeds!!!

Welcome @Evil-Mobo !!! Nice to find someone else who has grown the same strain :-)
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If you want me to later I can dig up some pics of my HBS from the last time I grew it, would just have to look through my threads :) I'm a Mephisto fanboy and only grow their auto's (for the most part). I just finished some Sour Hound

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max420thc

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Homie Da Clown said:
how often you go around bragging about your yield? My experience tells me that ppl with that skill dont hang out on boards begging for recognition. Maybe you are just young Max.
Wasnt Jim Carey son named max in liar liar?
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All the time I tell about my yeilds, you want great yeilds too?
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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Wisher2 said:
so my recipe of
2ml Micro
1ml Bloom
3ml Grow
is 377ppm
which is roughly 400ppm like I said

adding the 4ml calmg will bump it to roughly 450ppm

IMO is perfect for running DWC

I actually got this recipe from someone who ran DWC a long time ago
should be good for a control bucket experiment
IMO I do believe your spike in ppm as well as PH has to be do to the hydroton or something else in the bucket itself

good luck and wishing you great success
if these seedling fail , hopefully you have more and we can get you started again but on a much better track covering all your bases
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I burnt my plants with that 2 micro,1 bloom, 3 grow... They got claw real bad. too much N..


I would run lucas till this grow is over and switch to a 1 part...
just my opinion
 
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