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cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Wisher2 said:
I am not entirely following that graph
so you added 1ml per gal micro and 1ml per gal bloom
and 2ml per gal Calmg?
it should be more
for 6gal
12ml micro
24ml bloom
1:2 ratio
the lucas method
no calmg
1:1:1 is fine if you are using all 3 bottle
1:2 if only M/B
2ml micro : 4ml Bloom per gal of water
also
online charts for ph ranges are just a guideline
my Hydro nutrients run @ 3.5ph
but when running something like GH
I keep it between
5.5-6.0
we were concerned that your starting water was 5.8
starting water is usually @ 7ph
you never want to ph the starting water
ALWAYS!!!!! ph after all nutrients have been added
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Crap ... i messed up Lucas?? And I take it now I can’t add an additional 6ml micro and 18ml bloom - at least not in that solution.
F—-!!:wall::wall::wall::wall:

Guess I’ll just add 6ml of grow and make Lucas wait until another time

Also I added the CalMag because that’s what the GH site says you can do if you’re using distilled water
 
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Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Crap ... i messed up Lucas?? And I take it now I can’t add an additional 6ml micro and 18ml bloom - at least not in that solution.
F—-!!:wall::wall::wall::wall:

Guess I’ll just add 6ml of grow and make Lucas wait until another time

Also I added the CalMag because that’s what the GH site says you can do if you’re using distilled water
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you can easily add into that what you need
so just add more of the appropriate Micro and mix then add the appropriate bloom and mix
perfectly fine

as for the Calmg
when running lucas formula
the "Formula" at this ratio adds enough Ca and Mg to compensate for distilled or RO water
as is
I have and probably never will use CaMg suppliment as with the nutrients that I run whether it be GH or Botanicare or anything else
there is more than enough Ca and Mg in solution
again in My opinion
I use 0ppm RO water

Homie and I really when helping someone
Like to simplify everything and use as little as possible

all you need is
List:
gh Micro
gh Bloom
ph up
ph/ec meter
ph/ec solution *calibration*

that is literally it
that is all you need
I can get you from seed to harvest in any media *peat/coco/RockWool/Aquaculture*

with those few things
and of course lights and all that if indoors
if outdoors
shit you dont need anything else
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Wisher2 said:
you can easily add into that what you need
so just add more of the appropriate Micro and mix then add the appropriate bloom and mix
perfectly fine

as for the Calmg
when running lucas formula
the "Formula" at this ratio adds enough Ca and Mg to compensate for distilled or RO water
as is
I have and probably never will use CaMg suppliment as with the nutrients that I run whether it be GH or Botanicare or anything else
there is more than enough Ca and Mg in solution
again in My opinion
I use 0ppm RO water

Homie and I really when helping someone
Like to simplify everything and use as little as possible

all you need is
List:
gh Micro
gh Bloom
ph up
ph/ec meter
ph/ec solution *calibration*

that is literally it
that is all you need
I can get you from seed to harvest in any media *peat/coco/RockWool/Aquaculture*

with those few things
and of course lights and all that if indoors
if outdoors
shit you dont need anything else
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Again, I appreciate all your help gents!

So I added the 6ml of grow and here’s where my soup stands:
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Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Crap ... i messed up Lucas?? And I take it now I can’t add an additional 6ml micro and 18ml bloom - at least not in that solution.
F—-!!:wall::wall::wall::wall:

Guess I’ll just add 6ml of grow and make Lucas wait until another time

Also I added the CalMag because that’s what the GH site says you can do if you’re using distilled water
Click to expand...
why not? you can add more...
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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Wisher2 said:
you can easily add into that what you need
so just add more of the appropriate Micro and mix then add the appropriate bloom and mix
perfectly fine

as for the Calmg
when running lucas formula
the "Formula" at this ratio adds enough Ca and Mg to compensate for distilled or RO water
as is
I have and probably never will use CaMg suppliment as with the nutrients that I run whether it be GH or Botanicare or anything else
there is more than enough Ca and Mg in solution
again in My opinion
I use 0ppm RO water

Homie and I really when helping someone
Like to simplify everything and use as little as possible

all you need is
List:
gh Micro
gh Bloom
ph up
ph/ec meter
ph/ec solution *calibration*

that is literally it
that is all you need
I can get you from seed to harvest in any media *peat/coco/RockWool/Aquaculture*

with those few things
and of course lights and all that if indoors
if outdoors
shit you dont need anything else
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Im gonna let you run her thru this....
So we dont both confuse her
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Ok guys - so talk to me ... the #s for my nute mix is above ... leave as is? Add anything? Or just wait for a few more hours to see if anything shifts?
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well to me it is really low
as in
if you are gonna use the 3 part
right now I would bump it to 2:2:2ml per gal
or if you are gonna use lucas
then
Micro 2ml
Bloom 4ml
per gal
but yes just leave as is
and see what it does for 24 hours
honestly like I said before
do you have a tray for seed starting?
if so
I would pull the seedling out of the hydroton and put back in the tray and hand water
let the seedling grow a little more get 2-3 nodes
during that time rinse the hydroton really well
then once the seedling is ready to be put back in the system
put the ring on a timer for 15min 3times a day
once the roots hit the nutes in the reservoir you cant discontinue the drip ring
IMO I wouldnt even use the drip ring
but this is me
with the agitation of the nutes in the bucket the hydroton will begin to soak up moisture through capilary action in turn the roots will absorb and continue to grow out
but thisnis just My Opinion
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Wisher2 said:
well to me it is really low
as in
if you are gonna use the 3 part
right now I would bump it to 2:2:2ml per gal
or if you are gonna use lucas
then
Micro 2ml
Bloom 4ml
per gal
but yes just leave as is
and see what it does for 24 hours
honestly like I said before
do you have a tray for seed starting?
if so
I would pull the seedling out of the hydroton and put back in the tray and hand water
let the seedling grow a little more get 2-3 nodes
during that time rinse the hydroton really well
then once the seedling is ready to be put back in the system
put the ring on a timer for 15min 3times a day
once the roots hit the nutes in the reservoir you cant discontinue the drip ring
IMO I wouldnt even use the drip ring
but this is me
with the agitation of the nutes in the bucket the hydroton will begin to soak up moisture through capilary action in turn the roots will absorb and continue to grow out
but thisnis just My Opinion
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Ok - I’ll bump the nute solution up and see how it fares overnight.
Regarding a seed starting tray, no such luck - BUT I have some 4” nursery pots I ordered for my parsley that I need to start on. Should I maybe put the little one in one of those? If so, what do you suggest putting in with it to hold the rapid rooter upright? Some hydroton or perhaps something else? I do also have a bag of Roots Organic soilless mix. Would that help?
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Ok - I’ll bump the nute solution up and see how it fares overnight.
Regarding a seed starting tray, no such luck - BUT I have some 4” nursery pots I ordered for my parsley that I need to start on. Should I maybe put the little one in one of those? If so, what do you suggest putting in with it to hold the rapid rooter upright? Some hydroton or perhaps something else? I do also have a bag of Roots Organic soilless mix. Would that help?
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how about a plate or a baking pan
to place the seedling on
a tupperware
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
I do have some of those REALLY small tupperware containers ... they’re like 2”x2”x2” ... and i could punch a few drainage holes in the bottom
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no drainage holes
just sit the seedling in it
then pour enough to soak your little seedling and whatever runs off just let it be
the plant will soak it up
once the roots really pop out
and you will know what I mean
they will really start poppin out like a chia pet
tgen it can return to the hydro bucket
also do you have a light for seedlings like a shop light
or just the LED
if only the led
then sit it about 24"
if you have a shop light
12" above the seedlings
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Wisher2 said:
no drainage holes
just sit the seedling in it
then pour enough to soak your little seedling and whatever runs off just let it be
the plant will soak it up
once the roots really pop out
and you will know what I mean
they will really start poppin out like a chia pet
tgen it can return to the hydro bucket
also do you have a light for seedlings like a shop light
or just the LED
if only the led
then sit it about 24"
if you have a shop light
12" above the seedlings
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Will do - but sorry, no shop light ... so I’ll move the light up - and the other plant will be ok?
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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the one in the dwc bucket is doing fine. Let her keep that one going... She learn a lot from it that she can apply to the second one once its fine..
The only reason the waterfarm was doing bad was because she had it soaked from the drip ring.. It is sick... like if we sprayed a seedling every day with nutrient water under a bright LED....
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Well that second one has definitely perked up since I turned off the drip ring and only run it a little bit 2 times/day. Frankly I’m amazed how much better she looks just under a week later! Take a look

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