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Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
I wouldnt have been able to do it without the support of my husband - he is amazing and it’s him who go me through it ... not a doctor, or surgery, or the treatments. In fact, if it wren’t for him I don’t think I would have even done anything because I was soooo depressed about it - but he kept me as positive as anyone could in his situation and helped me to find the little things in life to celebrate when I couldnt see anything at all. God I love him!
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that is what I have heard
Support from loved ones really is the key
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Wisher2 said:
it is a 1 part nutrient by Botanicare

it is extremely easy to use and gives really great results

1gal comes to $25.00

and you use it @7-12ml per gal
max 14ml per gal all for DWC

in coco you use it at 14-18ml per gal

very easy stuff mixes clear and is extremely ph stable
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Hey @Wisher2 ! I’m looking on amazon and I see a couple - bloom, grow, ripe, coco - which is the 1-part one that you and @Homie Da Clown use?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Cns17 is hard to get up here :). I’ve tried problend, it seemed to cause ph to plummet so I stopped using it :(. I do need to find a new one though, my aqua flakes nock off is almost gone and plant closed :(. Thinking of trying the GH powder. It snowed here again last night which makes it hard to want to go out to the grow shed and turn the heat on, plug in the pumps, start a run..... :(. So I’m confused (old lol) but did you find out yet if ph and EC is rising in test bucket. My EC and ph both rise very slowly over a week or two depending on stage but if I try and get the EC down to a point where it slowly drops or stay the same my plants show signs of hunger. I run 1.2-.3 in peak flower and veg, I could probably raise that to the point of slight tip burn but then it becomes a stability issue. With me being on well water I learned very quick to stop chasing ph lol. Perhaps getting it to a bit lower starting point would keep it there longer, even at 5.4 you should be ok if it rises slowly from there. If you weren’t running distilled I would say your water was the issue :(.
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Budley Doright said:
Cns17 is hard to get up here :). I’ve tried problend, it seemed to cause ph to plummet so I stopped using it :(. I do need to find a new one though, my aqua flakes nock off is almost gone and plant closed :(. Thinking of trying the GH powder. It snowed here again last night which makes it hard to want to go out to the grow shed and turn the heat on, plug in the pumps, start a run..... :(. So I’m confused (old lol) but did you find out yet if ph and EC is rising in test bucket. My EC and ph both rise very slowly over a week or two depending on stage but if I try and get the EC down to a point where it slowly drops or stay the same my plants show signs of hunger. I run 1.2-.3 in peak flower and veg, I could probably raise that to the point of slight tip burn but then it becomes a stability issue. With me being on well water I learned very quick to stop chasing ph lol. Perhaps getting it to a bit lower starting point would keep it there longer, even at 5.4 you should be ok if it rises slowly from there. If you weren’t running distilled I would say your water was the issue :(.
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Nope, haven't figured it out, so last night @Wisher2 had me mix up a new batch and we both went through it step by step and my ppms are still low and he’s as confused as I am. We were thinking maybe cooler water temps did it, so last night I put my mix bucket over a heat vent. This morning the mix temp was up to 71, but the ppm was still at 500-520 (meter couldnt decided which lol). But, we’re gonna let this ride and see what happens. The ph was low at 4.8 and was still there this morning so I dropped an airstone in it and turned it on - we’ll see what that does when I get home from work tonight.
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Question guys - I remember reading somewhere that with the DWC bucket you start with the water hitting the bottom of the netpot, but once roots hit the water you’re supposed to drop the water level down about an inch so you have some air space and don’t drown the plant ... is that something I need to do or hold off til the roots develop a bit more?
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Question guys - I remember reading somewhere that with the DWC bucket you start with the water hitting the bottom of the netpot, but once roots hit the water you’re supposed to drop the water level down about an inch so you have some air space and don’t drown the plant ... is that something I need to do or hold off til the roots develop a bit more?
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for right now...just let them get their feet wet
we will come to that when they grow some
as for the CNS17
no coco
I personally suggest getting Grow and Ripe

@Budley Doright
have you considered something like Jacks or Masterblend dry salts
really cheap
and you can make stock concentrates and use them the same as liquid ferts 2part A/B
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Wisher2 said:
for right now...just let them get their feet wet
we will come to that when they grow some
as for the CNS17
no coco
I personally suggest getting Grow and Ripe

@Budley Doright
have you considered something like Jacks or Masterblend dry salts
really cheap
and you can make stock concentrates and use them the same as liquid ferts 2part A/B
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Yes and even jacks is not popular here. GH is $20 for a kilo so seems cheap enough as well, just looking for options when I run out after this run, but I’m out side soon and organic soil there ;).
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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Budley Doright said:
Yes and even jacks is not popular here. GH is $20 for a kilo so seems cheap enough as well, just looking for options when I run out after this run, but I’m out side soon and organic soil there ;).
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I am not sure where you are in the world but I guarantee what ever agg there is there they have mineral salt nutrients
and you can go to them and ask for what they use
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Ok folks ... here’s the dealio ... the mix bucket has remained at 520ppm wih a 5.0 ph and is at 66 degrees (only 1 degree cooler than the buckets in he tent).

I know I need to raise to ph up a tad to 5.5, but is ther ANYTHING else I need to do before I move this water into my buckets?

Btw, when I got home I took a single gallon, shook the living shit outta the Micro and Bloom bottles and added 4ml and 8ml respectively .. ppms about the same as the bit mix bucket ... 500 total ppms.
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Ok folks ... here’s the dealio ... the mix bucket has remained at 520ppm wih a 5.0 ph and is at 66 degrees (only 1 degree cooler than the buckets in he tent).

I know I need to raise to ph up a tad to 5.5, but is ther ANYTHING else I need to do before I move this water into my buckets?

Btw, when I got home I took a single gallon, shook the living shit outta the Micro and Bloom bottles and added 4ml and 8ml respectively .. ppms about the same as the bit mix bucket ... 500 total ppms.
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As far as im concerned thats fine..
We need to quit messing with it..
Just ph when you need to...
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Ok - I’ll ph it up and let it go - and keep my fingers crossed!

I really appreciate the help you both have given me ... its nice to have a couple of good mentors!!!
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Or just leave it at 5.4 and let it rise naturally. 5.4 is not going to hurt the plant if it rises, it will actually cover all of the uptake thresholds.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Wisher2 said:
I am not sure where you are in the world but I guarantee what ever agg there is there they have mineral salt nutrients
and you can go to them and ask for what they use
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Sure I can if I wanted to mix my own, I don’t lol. I do 3 runs a year max now and the $100 I spend a year is ok, that includes all vitamins and amino’s ;).
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Budley Doright said:
Or just leave it at 5.4 and let it rise naturally. 5.4 is not going to hurt the plant if it rises, it will actually cover all of the uptake thresholds.
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Yeah, I only bumped the ph a little ... with calcium seeming to be my issue and the ph needing to be at the lower end of the scale for that, AND with my ph constantly rising, I figured its my best bet. And I’ll do like @Wisher2 and @Homie Da Clown instructed and just let it ride til it hits 6.2 then drop it back down so it gets the full range.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Yeah, I only bumped the ph a little ... with calcium seeming to be my issue and the ph needing to be at the lower end of the scale for that, AND with my ph constantly rising, I figured its my best bet. And I’ll do like @Wisher2 and @Homie Da Clown instructed and just let it ride til it hits 6.2 then drop it back down so it gets the full range.
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And my reading comprehension sucks, I though I saw 5.4 not 5.0 .... opps lol. Keep lots of notes ;).
 
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