Psychadelibuds Underground Laboratory

[max420thc]

Here in Michigan it is about to go legal , recreational.
Seeds can be breed marketed and sold legally here,
The state is still allowing care giver licenses , only for a period of time and only in certain areas, you have to have the caregiver licenses to apply for the commercial licenses for two years.
Some are saying that after the recreational goes through and is set up that they will shut down issuing care givers licenses but the existing ones will be grandfathered in.
The existing licenses could be worth there weight in gold if you know what I mean,

 

[max420thc]

My friend , I know you think you know what you have in hand with those Kentucky skunk seeds,
But you really don't,
I seen a seed company , that shall remain nameless earn 100000 in a week end at a cup selling seeds,
The seeds are marketed on line, in blogs, seed banks and sold at shows.
Many of the breeders go from one show to another , all the while if they have good solid gear building a reputation selling even more seeds,

 

[max420thc]

this plant has been gone for decades now other then a very few people having it,
it is so rare when people hear about this plant they call you a liar , or bull shit,
I hear that a lot myself so I get it,
the Kentucky skunk is real,,it is not big foot and it does exist, I have seen it, I have grown it and I have smelled it,
there is a good reason this plant went away, those who were growing it could not hide the smell and many went to jail or prison,
this plant is tough and vigorous , it needs to be reintroduced into the marijuana gene pool once again,

 

[psychadelibud]

this plant has been gone for decades now other then a very few people having it,
it is so rare when people hear about this plant they call you a liar , or bull shit,
I hear that a lot myself so I get it,
the Kentucky skunk is real,,it is not big foot and it does exist, I have seen it, I have grown it and I have smelled it,
there is a good reason this plant went away, those who were growing it could not hide the smell and many went to jail or prison,
this plant is tough and vigorous , it needs to be reintroduced into the marijuana gene pool once again,

That is what I am here to do Max... Put it back into those longing hands of the people grieving for it.

 

[max420thc]

That is what I am here to do Max... Put it back into those longing hands of the people grieving for it.

What you waiting on?
Male selection should be done soon, at the same time you breed this seed crop you should also be crossing g it to other females at the same time,
It can take up to a year to cube a plant ,
Unless you get really luck and the f1 s are stable

 

[psychadelibud]

What you waiting on?
Male selection should be done soon, at the same time you breed this seed crop you should also be crossing g it to other females at the same time,
It can take up to a year to cube a plant ,
Unless you get really luck and the f1 s are stable

Well the seeds have done been popped. I planned on taking a couple of the males, a few of the females once they are mature enough to do so and place them in a room together and let them do their thing. Open pollination.

Then I will have myself tons of beans to play around with and also a good amount to use for "other" reasons as well in which I cannot advertise...

 

[Sour Wreck]

very cool psychadelibud. like what you are doing here.

 

[max420thc]

It's all good,
If you can get into a opportunity to get a piece of property or address up here you will be able to get the care giver license,
I don't know how to talk to you openly and candidly on this forum .
I am not asking you to do anything wrong , I do not want in on your action,
I will point out opportunity you might want to take advantage of though

 

[psychadelibud]

Day 28 12/12



Everything is swelling up nicely !!!

I do have much much better quality pictures coming this evening, got a lot of work to do today but shall give an update when I get settled in with an array of new crisp photos! Things are changing FAST and the stench is getting real folks!!

 

[psychadelibud]

Ok guys, so a little news drop real fast and hoping for a little advice as well.

The budshots that are super frosty "the 413 Chem" is currently acting up on me, for fuckong Christ sake! Anyway here is the issue.

I am finding nanners here and there, popping up on her. I would not consider them "abundant" but I do notice the number growing a bit each day. Kind of spotty on each branch, a bud here and there....

Now in all honesty I do not believe this to be a grower mistake. This particular clone was gifted to me from a good friend over on IC along with the other actual elite and stable clones. The 413 Chem is the only plant in the room exposing nanners, but still I am going to inspect further when I get back into the room.

I know that the "Chem" line is susceptible to throwing nanners just like sour lines are. This guy says he received the clone and only grew it out once but however it did NOT herm on him... I did see his photos of the buds about 2 weeks or so from harvest and they did look amazing... I didn't see any nanners.

I have no light leaks, temps and humidity are in check and absolutely no signs of over or under feeding. So I really have no idea what's up here...

As bad as I would hate to see the 413 go, I might possibly let it go. Or is the damage already done? Is it possible these nanners are sterile? Would they might have come about earlier in flower (since they are just now being exposed) during a certain stressful moment that I am unaware of, and possibly if I pick them off, do you think they would continue to throw nanners? I mean this plant looks to be a huge yielder... Also the frostiest girls in the roo as well...

Well you folks that are following, please throw in your opinions... What would you do? I don't mind a seed or two here and there... But if I am risking finding hundreds of seeds then FUCK no! She has to go!

Y'all get back with me with the quickness....... I really need opinions.

 

[thumper60]

Ok guys, so a little news drop real fast and hoping for a little advice as well.

The budshots that are super frosty "the 413 Chem" is currently acting up on me, for fuckong Christ sake! Anyway here is the issue.

I am finding nanners here and there, popping up on her. I would not consider them "abundant" but I do notice the number growing a bit each day. Kind of spotty on each branch, a bud here and there....

Now in all honesty I do not believe this to be a grower mistake. This particular clone was gifted to me from a good friend over on IC along with the other actual elite and stable clones. The 413 Chem is the only plant in the room exposing nanners, but still I am going to inspect further when I get back into the room.

I know that the "Chem" line is susceptible to throwing nanners just like sour lines are. This guy says he received the clone and only grew it out once but however it did NOT herm on him... I did see his photos of the buds about 2 weeks or so from harvest and they did look amazing... I didn't see any nanners.

I have no light leaks, temps and humidity are in check and absolutely no signs of over or under feeding. So I really have no idea what's up here...

As bad as I would hate to see the 413 go, I might possibly let it go. Or is the damage already done? Is it possible these nanners are sterile? Would they might have come about earlier in flower (since they are just now being exposed) during a certain stressful moment that I am unaware of, and possibly if I pick them off, do you think they would continue to throw nanners? I mean this plant looks to be a huge yielder... Also the frostiest girls in the roo as well...

Well you folks that are following, please throw in your opinions... What would you do? I don't mind a seed or two here and there... But if I am risking finding hundreds of seeds then FUCK no! She has to go!

Y'all get back with me with the quickness....... I really need opinions.

u talking nanners not ball sacks right? seems very early for nanners I c them late flower some times to late to fert any thing. if they r on more than 1 branch get them bitchs out of there

 

[psychadelibud]

u talking nanners not ball sacks right? seems very early for nanners I c them late flower some times to late to fert any thing. if they r on more than 1 branch get them bitchs out of there

No its nanners, not ball sacks.

I cut two of the Chem 413s down and then I noticed one nanner on the Chem 91 as well... So I stopped. I can't cut my whole crop out. I know the underlying cause now... Its that god damn Primordial Solutions True Blooms. All of a sudden I am reading tons of bad reviews where people are getting nanners using it. The shit ought to be taken off the shelves!

So it's off to plan B now... (And I wish I hadn't even cut those first two Chems down). So a couple years ago I started getting hermies/nanners due to light leaks. I ordered a product with the same ingredients as Dutch Masters Reverse (which is no longer sold) and sprayed my plants... It took care of the problem and the entire crop was seedless. Also, I dumped the true bloom shit in the toilet and threw the bottle in the burn barrell.

We shall see how this winds out... I have to get that shit ordered today so it will go ahead and get shipped out. I need it asap.

 

[Kushash]

No its nanners, not ball sacks.

I cut two of the Chem 413s down and then I noticed one nanner on the Chem 91 as well... So I stopped. I can't cut my whole crop out. I know the underlying cause now... Its that god damn Primordial Solutions True Blooms. All of a sudden I am reading tons of bad reviews where people are getting nanners using it. The shit ought to be taken off the shelves!

So it's off to plan B now... (And I wish I hadn't even cut those first two Chems down). So a couple years ago I started getting hermies/nanners due to light leaks. I ordered a product with the same ingredients as Dutch Masters Reverse (which is no longer sold) and sprayed my plants... It took care of the problem and the entire crop was seedless. Also, I dumped the true bloom shit in the toilet and threw the bottle in the burn barrell.

We shall see how this winds out... I have to get that shit ordered today so it will go ahead and get shipped out. I need it asap.

Did a little reading on Primordial Solutions True Blooms.
Derived from: Fish Protein Hydrolysate, Phosphoric Acid, Potassium Hydroxide.
Potassium Hydroxide seems to be used more for germination or starter fertilizers from some of the sites I just visited.


Below is from this link.
https://www.extension.umn.edu/agriculture/nutrient-management/potassium/potassium-for-crop-production/

Liquid forms of potassium are available for in-furrow application as a starter fertilizer. These forms of fertilizer are manufactured with either potassium chloride (KCl) or potassium hydroxide (KOH). Fertilizer sources containing KCl pose a greater risk for stand damage due to salts in solution. No more than10 lbs of N + K2O should be applied in loamy soils and 4 lbs N + K2O in sandy soils if a fertilizer source contains KCl. Fertilizers containing KOH are safer for seed placement as they for potassium-phosphate compounds that do not contribute to the salt content of the fertilizer. Low salt fertilizer sources manufactured with KOH are higher in cost and may contain a very low concentration of K. Application of fertilizer on the corn seed as an in-furrow application cannot supply all the needed K in a K responsive soil.

 

[psychadelibud]

I just got through reading so many threads on different forums about people never having sexual issues with their plants until they used this stuff. And most reports were with clones, not seed... and stable cuts at that. It also contains high levels of concentrated natural PGR's. I don't know if it is unlisted or what but I seen where a sales rep for them explained it. It did stop my stretch but it gave me SHIT in return. Fuck you Primordial Solutions and shove your useless product up your ass!

Got two products on the way right now... One, which is called Optic Foliar Switch (same formula as Dutch Masters Reverse) and the other called "Florel" which is basically a cheaper, concentrated version of it. I have used Switch in the past and had excellent results. The ethylene works great at this issue and last time I used it I had excellent results. Also used transport with it too which is just a product to open up the pores in the plant and let the gases within it.

We will beat the living shit out of this hermie issue and please spread the word that True Blooms is shit. I swear I used it a couple sprays back in the day only outdoor instead of indoor and it worked fine... Its when you follow the label even at half dosage is where you get fucked...

 

[thumper60]

I just got through reading so many threads on different forums about people never having sexual issues with their plants until they used this stuff. And most reports were with clones, not seed... and stable cuts at that. It also contains high levels of concentrated natural PGR's. I don't know if it is unlisted or what but I seen where a sales rep for them explained it. It did stop my stretch but it gave me SHIT in return. Fuck you Primordial Solutions and shove your useless product up your ass!

Got two products on the way right now... One, which is called Optic Foliar Switch (same formula as Dutch Masters Reverse) and the other called "Florel" which is basically a cheaper, concentrated version of it. I have used Switch in the past and had excellent results. The ethylene works great at this issue and last time I used it I had excellent results. Also used transport with it too which is just a product to open up the pores in the plant and let the gases within it.

We will beat the living shit out of this hermie issue and please spread the word that True Blooms is shit. I swear I used it a couple sprays back in the day only outdoor instead of indoor and it worked fine... Its when you follow the label even at half dosage is where you get fucked...

that rough dude just fucked up!!that's why I stick to 2 jugs 2 jugs only kelp an pro grow,been reading bad stuff about pgrs for a long time

 

[psychadelibud]

All the other products I am using "excluding the true blooms" I have always used and never had a hermie issue. Only once due to a light leak.

I agree all you really need is just the base nutes... But in my personal past side by side experiments I got something like a 30% increase in yield using the rest of the additives and things compared to base nutes alone. But either route you choose wether it be the simple one or the complicated one (more nutes, additives etc) the quality all comes out pretty equally in the end.

However I am a connoisseur cash cropper, except it's not just about the money for me though.... I am literally in LOVE with my weed... It is my life. My soul. So I like that little bump in yield.

Its when you start fucking with products with "propriety blends" and "secret and unlisted" ingredients is when you fuck up...

I am definitely spreading the word that True Blooms is trash. Their sea green is great but true blooms is shit!

 

[Sour Wreck]

sorry to hear of your troubles and yes, i would spread the word as well.

good luck moving forward

 

[psychadelibud]

sorry to hear of your troubles and yes, i would spread the word as well.

good luck moving forward

Thanks brother... I have faith. If its worked for me before I don't see why it won't this time. Gonna go three rounds with it too just for safe measure...

 

[Bakersfield]

Ok guys, so a little news drop real fast and hoping for a little advice as well.

The budshots that are super frosty "the 413 Chem" is currently acting up on me, for fuckong Christ sake! Anyway here is the issue.

I am finding nanners here and there, popping up on her. I would not consider them "abundant" but I do notice the number growing a bit each day. Kind of spotty on each branch, a bud here and there....

Now in all honesty I do not believe this to be a grower mistake. This particular clone was gifted to me from a good friend over on IC along with the other actual elite and stable clones. The 413 Chem is the only plant in the room exposing nanners, but still I am going to inspect further when I get back into the room.

I know that the "Chem" line is susceptible to throwing nanners just like sour lines are. This guy says he received the clone and only grew it out once but however it did NOT herm on him... I did see his photos of the buds about 2 weeks or so from harvest and they did look amazing... I didn't see any nanners.

I have no light leaks, temps and humidity are in check and absolutely no signs of over or under feeding. So I really have no idea what's up here...

As bad as I would hate to see the 413 go, I might possibly let it go. Or is the damage already done? Is it possible these nanners are sterile? Would they might have come about earlier in flower (since they are just now being exposed) during a certain stressful moment that I am unaware of, and possibly if I pick them off, do you think they would continue to throw nanners? I mean this plant looks to be a huge yielder... Also the frostiest girls in the roo as well...

Well you folks that are following, please throw in your opinions... What would you do? I don't mind a seed or two here and there... But if I am risking finding hundreds of seeds then FUCK no! She has to go!

Y'all get back with me with the quickness....... I really need opinions.

I'd get rid of her.
If she's so sensitive to throw nanners, because of some fertilizer, then it's some serious weak sauce.
I've pulled 1000's of seeds from my cash crop in the past and I don't recommend it.

 

[psychadelibud]

I'd get rid of her.
If she's so sensitive to throw nanners, because of some fertilizer, then it's some serious weak sauce.
I've pulled 1000's of seeds from my cash crop in the past and I don't recommend it.

Well the thing is, is that this isn't just fertilizer... It is a PGR at high concentrations... Even though it is natural (and who knows if it really is natural?) it messes with the plants hormonal system.

I have cuts that are extremely stable. They are all throwing a nanner here and there due to the stuff.

Stardawg Corey cut, the Chem 91 that has been passed down since 1991, the real deal gg4 and headbanger and 413 chem. The only two that aren't really elite is up The 413 chem and headbanger, meaning these were personal selections a from someone who grew them out.

The rest of those strains are very stable for a fact.

Its not got a thing to do with the plant being stable or not in this case... Plant Growth Regulators are powerful and they can change the chemistry of the plant.

I did not know true blooms contained this shit till I did further research.

I originally thought that the 413 Chem was the only one doing this. Further inspection led me to discover nanners here and there all over the room.

Temps are dialed, feeding schedule is perfect, humidity in check and absolutely no light leaks, this is a room underground within a room underground. Pitch black dungeon...

Its the True Blooms. Its True Bullshit... Really.

The Foliar Optic Switch and Florel should put me back on track... The stuff works great if used correctly.