Johnny Lawrence
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You must have missed the part where I mentioned that I also grow with HID.Stop being such a cuckold led fag
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LED Thread regarding stalk weight difference between LED & HPS
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Stop being such a cuckStop being such a cuckold led fag
Johnny Lawrence
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My yields are all the proof I need. Enjoy life with your head stuck in the sand.
Bye, bye enjoy your house fires, from your dodgy as fuck diy
Kingrow1
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Your yeilds do not outgrow the best hps grows here in the last decade.
What you cant do is argue against all the proof on Rollitup.
Led have taken a downward turn in the last year, if you cant see that then your head is sandy not mine. Many growers here have viewed the evidence and just echo what i say.
It never was for me to agree or not to agree, it was for leds to obviously outgrow hps, at that point there would be no debate, the fact it is still debated makes its point.
Lastly led have been backed into a corner, all the tweaks have hit the extent of efficiency, they have no more brightness to give, still working the same voltage diodes that existed when blurple was around.
chiqifella
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Lordhooha
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http://www.flor.hrt.msu.edu/assets/Uploads/LEDs-vs-HPS.pdf
I mean this is a bit old but it shows leds were on par with hps years ago....I have plenty of unversity studies I’ve read on how leds were/are on par with hps. There’s been studies from the university of London awhile back, along with Purdue and havard but what do they know right?
Kingrow1
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Ive seen enough here to know hps is the biggest yeilder. Led is on a downward trend, partly fuelled by false claims in many areas.
Its snakeoil and if you bought into it you were easily conned.
Just like legalization, now the click touts low number scrog grows cause they got restricted and big companies rule the business.
Im just calling it like it is, your numbers are not convincing enough and the markets seeing through the bs...
Soon its going to be led rip around here, dont tell me you cant sense a lot of negativety against leds.
Lordhooha
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As I thought university studies are lying. But some cat from Europe knows better. I mean come on. Most folks are happy once they switch to the right leds. Sure the purple shit is just that, shit. But even in my course I’m doing currently they are constantly proving that led will be the winner. Food grow under led has more nutrition. Growth is better. But yah the stoner from over pond there knows better. As for the false claims yah the big lighting companies need to be regulated on their claims but just like anything else a little research goes a long way. Tell me again if hid lighting is still better why they’re tossing your old hps lights off of street poles and replacing them with leds too.
Kingrow1
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Yep im right they are all wrong, the claims do not translate to yeilds here on rollitup, still with the hps growers here for many years on that one, they have real world proof of yeilds no dispute.As I thought university studies are lying. But some cat from Europe knows better. I mean come on. Most folks are happy once they switch to the right leds. Sure the purple shit is just that, shit. But even in my course I’m doing currently they are constantly proving that led will be the winner. Food grow under led has more nutrition. Growth is better. But yah the stoner from over pond there knows better. As for the false claims yah the big lighting companies need to be regulated on their claims but just like anything else a little research goes a long way. Tell me again if hid lighting is still better why they’re tossing your old hps lights off of street poles and replacing them with leds too.
Them led street and motorway led lights are shit, no where near as bright as the old bulbs, looks like it wasnt just you that god mis sold on some scientific study...
This seems to happen a lot to led peeps, they should be brighter and better but they simply arent, noticing a trend hmmmm....
Lucky Luke
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Maybe in the mountains were you are but I assure you it can be high 30s to low 40s at night in and around Penrith at night. I have lived in Western Sydney around that area.
I like HPS to. But any one saying they are not warmer than an equivalent LED, like Kingrow, have rocks in their head. Its one of the reasons people choose to use one or the other. I use HPS in winter because its warmer than LED and it saves me running a heater.
Kinggrow just ignore's any Q he doesn't want to answer and keeps banging on with his hate.
LED have taken over our homes, our cars and they will be taking over the grow room. I think the only thing that gives LED a run for the money grow wise are DE and at the rate LED tech is moving that wont be for long.
Lucky Luke
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LOL they are replacing them with LED here.Tell me again if hid lighting is still better why they’re tossing your old hps lights off of street poles and replacing them with leds too.
I do think with great extraction, theyre a good comparison.
I dont wanna jump on band wagon. But this much is true.
Sorry dude.
Lordhooha
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lol I figured as much debating facts are pointless. Because growers on a forum can’t produce the same as they did despite the fact that’s its been done in a controlled environment such as a case study with factual numbers not from an led manufacturer.
Those euro cats installing those led street lights must be ex chimney sweeps because I can tell you the led street lights here are damn near a safety hazard they’re so bright.
Kingrow1
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Yep pointless, when leds produce better results than the best hps here it will be undeniable, until then your fucked, creek without a paddle....
seedfinderss
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LED's are more efficent, brighter, and run cool.. Why is this still even a disccusion? Oh probably people still confused about COBS and BLURPLE LED's. Get your self some QB's get with the times folks.
Kingrow1
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What led tech, it hit a physical thermodynamic barrier of efficiency a while back.
1000watt de hps growers mop the floor with the equivelant led, not anything you can say about that after seeing their grows and bud.
Face the facts...
Lucky Luke
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I think you will find that 1000w of DE and a 1000W of Led the LED will produce more. With less height restrictions and less heat. But I'm done arguing with you.
Lordhooha
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So your saying an led of 1000watts actual watts would get stomped by a double ended pulling the same wattage?
Lordhooha
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It’s like the blind leading the blind with him.