1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm

[Budley Doright]

Again if you weren’t using distilled water I would say your hooked up to my well re the blotching lol. I finally started to use an amino acid product to clear up my blotching, I have really high calcium and magnesium, so calcium gets lockedthe amino helps with uptake ..... or something like that lol.

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

I think it was partially the wild ph swings locking out the calcium ... the other part is just that I’m a newb and we screw up *lol*

I downloaded that nutrient excess/deficiency chart from Jorge Cervantes’ ... and made a single screenshot for each so I have something to check *before*’I ask questions!

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Good evening folks! Here’s tonight’s update.

DWC with HBSS #1:
- ph was 5.2 and today its at 5.7
- ppm was at 515 and today its at 530
- water temp at 68
Here are her pics for today ...




Water Farm with HBSS #2
- ph was 5.2 and today its at 6.1
- ppm was at 515 and today its at 530
- water temp at 68
Her are her pics for today ...


So obviously I need to consider adjusting the ph in the Water Farm, but let the DWC ride for now.

 

[Wisher2]

Good evening folks! Here’s tonight’s update.

DWC with HBSS #1:
- ph was 5.2 and today its at 5.7
- ppm was at 515 and today its at 530
- water temp at 68
Here are her pics for today ...
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Water Farm with HBSS #2
- ph was 5.2 and today its at 6.1
- ppm was at 515 and today its at 530
- water temp at 68
Her are her pics for today ...
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So obviously I need to consider adjusting the ph in the Water Farm, but let the DWC ride for now.

let them both ride till tomorrow
looks like they are settling in

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

let them both ride till tomorrow
looks like they are settling in

Even with the Water Farm being at 6.1? That was almost a full point jump in 24 hours

 

[Wisher2]

Even with the Water Farm being at 6.1? That was almost a full point jump in 24 hours

yea just leave it
so what is does in 48 hours
we need to see if it still climbs or stabalizes
it it climbs bring it down

 

[Homie Da Clown]

let them both ride till tomorrow
looks like they are settling in

Agreed! I wouldnt micromanage it let it swing 5.5 to 6.4 tell it gets settled in and then it should quit swinging so much

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Ok gents ... I’ll leave it be (though its killing me damnit! *lol*)

 

[Cannadab1s]

Sounds like theres a lot of tinkering with ph going on here. Maybe check out a ph stable base next round.

Im using promix ph. (Coco/perlite/peat moss with azomite and dolomitic lime to keep ph stable). Ontop of a 2 part nute routine. All i have to do is go to my pond and scoop some water in a bucket ..add few tbsp of nutes, then water. Easy peasy. No checking ph, the medium gives the plants exact ph they need no matter what my water is.

 

[Budley Doright]

It would be nice to figure out the issue, hopefully someone here has a science background and gets involved or you start running a few more tests to find cause and effect, perhaps in multiple party cups, one with hydroton, one just plan water, another with air pump and one without. Me being a lazy fuck will just sit back and watch cause I have no ideal what’s going on, I do have theories though and the first would be the hydroton is causing this or the environment, I’m assuming salt water so maybe salt air .... just throwing that out there . Again not sure what’s up. I chased PH for a long time, nutrient trials , etc, for over a year but I was fighting well water .

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

I did some reading last night and a lot of what I read seems to point to the air stones. Explanation given was that as the airstones inject the air,it changes the chemical makeup of the water. I’m no scientist by any means, but it certainly sounds plausible. The advice given to help stabilize the ph to some degree was to first aerate the water for 24 hours and just CHECK the ph ... then add nutes and just CHECK the ph ... then aerate for another 24 hours and his time ADJUST the ph.

 

[Budley Doright]

I did some reading last night and a lot of what I read seems to point to the air stones. Explanation given was that as the airstones inject the air,it changes the chemical makeup of the water. I’m no scientist by any means, but it certainly sounds plausible. The advice given to help stabilize the ph to some degree was to first aerate the water for 24 hours and just CHECK the ph ... then add nutes and just CHECK the ph ... then aerate for another 24 hours and his time ADJUST the ph.

The reason I told you I ditched mine and run a system that doesn’t require them. I also went with chilled water to help somewhat with out the addition of bubbles

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

The reason I told you I ditched mine and run a system that doesn’t require them. I also went with chilled water to help somewhat with out the addition of bubbles

What system are you currently using again? And now you don’t have a ph swing issue?

I can’t ditch my hydro setup at the moment - got plants, time, and a ton of effort in the at this point *lol* ... maybe next go-round!

 

[Homie Da Clown]

Please d9nt confuse this female with things about lime and etc.. SHE IS IN DWC..
It has absolutely no bearing on this..
OP just needs to leave well enough alone..
Besides buying a ro filter or cns17 she just needs to relax. There is noth8ng wrong and never has been
OTHER THAN SHE LET THE SEEDLING GET SOAKED BY THE DRIP RING WHICH CAUSED BEGINNING STEM ROT AND STUNTED THE FUCK OUT OF A 3 DAY OLD SEEDLING...

NOW...
keep following what i tell u to do and we be out of the woods in a couple weeks...

So now we are 48 hrs from last ph change. What are they today?

 

[Homie Da Clown]

The reason I told you I ditched mine and run a system that doesn’t require them. I also went with chilled water to help somewhat with out the addition of bubbles

Bro...
Dwc needs bubbles and the stones dont effect it that m7ch and once its grown a little we can steer ph and ppm with a resevoir, or add backs..
This is easy shit u guys. Confusing yes but easy.. This thread is the epiphany of over thinking something...

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Please d9nt confuse this female with things about lime and etc.. SHE IS IN DWC..
It has absolutely no bearing on this..
OP just needs to leave well enough alone..
Besides buying a ro filter or cns17 she just needs to relax. There is noth8ng wrong and never has been
OTHER THAN SHE LET THE SEEDLING GET SOAKED BY THE DRIP RING WHICH CAUSED BEGINNING STEM ROT AND STUNTED THE FUCK OUT OF A 3 DAY OLD SEEDLING...

NOW...
keep following what i tell u to do and we be out of the woods in a couple weeks...

So now we are 48 hrs from last ph change. What are they today?

Nope, I’m not letting anything confuse me ... just following instructions per you and @Wisher2 . I’ll check ph again tonight and adjust as necessary. Btw, i think both babies are looking good - bar the calcium spots. As long as that doesnt continue I’ll be a very happy camper. If it does, I’ll just need the appropriate guidance!

 

[Homie Da Clown]

Nope, I’m not letting anything confuse me ... just following instructions per you and @Wisher2 . I’ll check ph again tonight and adjust as necessary. Btw, i think both babies are looking good - bar the calcium spots. As long as that doesnt continue I’ll be a very happy camper. If it does, I’ll just need the appropriate guidance!

We will be fine. Now that it has a root, it will pull enuf Ca from the lucas mixture...

 

[Budley Doright]

Bro...
Dwc needs bubbles and the stones dont effect it that m7ch and once its grown a little we can steer ph and ppm with a resevoir, or add backs..
This is easy shit u guys. Confusing yes but easy.. This thread is the epiphany of over thinking something...

Bro....I didn’t tell her to switch and all I’ve said was it would be nice to figure it out .... which we haven’t lol. So where does trying to stop a daily swing of .5+ become overthinking lol. And yup DWC needs bubbles and yes air injection does effect ph of distilled water, just as leaving it open to air does, yes basic stuff. Is it gonna kill her plants? No. At this point we’re all just talking here right? But yes not sure where the lime came into all this lol.

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Lime came from the newest joinee to the thread; dont think he/she realized or paid attention to the fact that I’m working hydro

 

[Budley Doright]

Lime came from the newest joinee to the thread; dont think he/she realized or paid attention to the fact that I’m working hydro

I know lol. And I run a flood and drain, ebb and flow, recirc type thing lol. If I leave pump on it becomes a recirc but basically stacked totes with the upper more like a covered tray with suspended net pots. I’ve been tweaking the thing for a couple of years now lol.