Wisher2
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I dont believe his comments were directed towards you
as for ph swings
it happens
once the plant grows feet it will stabilize
1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm
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as for ph swings
it happens
once the plant grows feet it will stabilize
cjsbabygirl313
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DWC with HBSS #1:
- ph was 5.7 and today its at 5.8
- ppm was at 530 and today its still at 530
- water temp at 68
Here are her pics for today ...
Water Farm with HBSS #2:
- ph was 6.1 and today its at 6.4
- ppm was at 530 and today its at 560
- water temp at 67
Here are her pics for today ...
- ph was 5.7 and today its at 5.8
- ppm was at 530 and today its still at 530
- water temp at 68
Here are her pics for today ...
Water Farm with HBSS #2:
- ph was 6.1 and today its at 6.4
- ppm was at 530 and today its at 560
- water temp at 67
Here are her pics for today ...
Budley Doright
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Well he quoted me lol. And if that’s true perfect but why is it not stabalized now? What would cause it to swing now but not later?
Homie Da Clown
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I read back my post.. My upbeat pos5s in the morning or fueled by 3 cups of coffee and 10 seconds 9f time to get my morning post in...
With that said, let me apologize for meth head sounding statement post..
If i would 9f had time it would been more diplomatic..
And yes ph can jump around esp with this water she is using. But when she gets roots in the water they will be drinking so fast that she will add back every 1 to 2 days. She just keeps adding back exactly the same which will be the stabilizing force she needs..
I just seen a few times we had advice come in to the thread that i disagree with as well am concerned that she dont get caught up following some wrong advice. Im good but i cant rectify just any mistake she could be incouraged to try....
Just wanted you yo know i didnt mean it the way it came across...
Bro.......
Lol
Budley Doright
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Well the DWC seems to have stabalized a bit
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Budley Doright
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The only advice I’ve given was stop watering so much lol. It’s all good
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cjsbabygirl313
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Yeah, but I need to get that ph down in the Water Farm ... yes guys?Well the DWC seems to have stabalized a bit
Homie Da Clown
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Because imo the plant had beginning stages of stem rot which is dead biological matter and it was negatively affecting ph...she may have even had some live neg biological bacteria growing in the median around the rooter from the stem rot..Well the DWC seems to have stabalized a bit
Homie Da Clown
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And you were 100% right too i might add!The only advice I’ve given was stop watering so much lol. It’s all good
Homie Da Clown
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Yes bring it down to 5.5..
Dont over shoot!
5.6 is better than over shooting 5.5
cjsbabygirl313
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Question ... since it appears I MAY have calcium issues, can I bring it down a bit lower - like 5.3 in both? That’s the start of the good calcium zone ... then let it ride back up to 6.1/2/3?
Wisher2
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when bringing it down I suggest 1 or 2 drops literally from a pipette of ph down
allow it to mix and see where you are
ph down is extremely strong, very concentrated
as for that bucket where the ppms are climbing, that shouldnt be happening
the only way ppm can rise it if +ions are being added
which they are not
so that leads me to believe there is biological activity going on
dont fret
just drop the ph and we let it ride again
if ppms keep climbing
we will, in time, change out for fresh nutes
I believe it is residue from the Hydroton
as for the other not eating
should be fine as well
I would snip the really bad leaves at the bottom so the plant dosnt waste energy trying to repair itself
that is where the plant was cannabalizing itself from lack of being able to uptake nutrients
allow it to mix and see where you are
ph down is extremely strong, very concentrated
as for that bucket where the ppms are climbing, that shouldnt be happening
the only way ppm can rise it if +ions are being added
which they are not
so that leads me to believe there is biological activity going on
dont fret
just drop the ph and we let it ride again
if ppms keep climbing
we will, in time, change out for fresh nutes
I believe it is residue from the Hydroton
as for the other not eating
should be fine as well
I would snip the really bad leaves at the bottom so the plant dosnt waste energy trying to repair itself
that is where the plant was cannabalizing itself from lack of being able to uptake nutrients
Wisher2
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no
you dont have Ca issues
trust me
when your plant is 3' tall and growing rapidly and you start to get spots....that is Ca issues
in hydroponics you should never have Ca issues because it is readily available to the plant
same with using bloom boosters
P/K are instantly avail to the plant in hydro
no need for adding more
cjsbabygirl313
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Yup - I know to only add that ph down a teeny bit at a time ... I have a 1ml syringe that is marked at .1 intervals and found that 1/10th of a ml (which is about 2 drops - lol) brings it down ABOUT .1-.2 points.
As for the Water Farm, could a few drops of H2O2 help if there *is* biological activity occurring? She actually has recovered REALLY WELL since you guys started helping me !!!
As for the Water Farm, could a few drops of H2O2 help if there *is* biological activity occurring? She actually has recovered REALLY WELL since you guys started helping me !!!
Homie Da Clown
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no. it has calcuim dif because it wen
See the differance in me and you doing dwc, is you drain the water out and then add ph, nutes, etc never really draining it all out..
I take the bucket lid/netpot off the bucket and set it on another bucket, while i add water up to fill line and then I take a ppm reading. I then add my nutes back till im at 100% of what ever my starting ppm was. After that I ph it, and set the bucket lid/netpot back on it and let it go till the next day...
Its quick and easy,
add csn17 to it, and every ml is 50 ppm, you can get shit down to a science...
t thru a rough spell during your transplant, in which you even dug the fellas out while you added your tube.
See the differance in me and you doing dwc, is you drain the water out and then add ph, nutes, etc never really draining it all out..
I take the bucket lid/netpot off the bucket and set it on another bucket, while i add water up to fill line and then I take a ppm reading. I then add my nutes back till im at 100% of what ever my starting ppm was. After that I ph it, and set the bucket lid/netpot back on it and let it go till the next day...
Its quick and easy,
add csn17 to it, and every ml is 50 ppm, you can get shit down to a science...
Budley Doright
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Could be but IME that typically causes ph to swing down in my setup. Could be different with OPs at this point I’m open to anything lol.
cjsbabygirl313
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I’ll start following your procedure once this all gets nulled out. I think the DWC is pretty much at that point now. I do have another bucket now that I can set the net pot in ... even the square Water Farm will sit just in it! Again, which csn17 should I get? I thought it was a 1 part thing, but on Amazon it had different ones. If you have a link for the one you think I need to add it would be much appreciated
And yup - I’ll trim off those dead leaves!
Homie Da Clown
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I agree... and if i knew exactly what was happening, I would prob be rich. I promise you if I had to learn and figure out what processes are going on, I prob could get an idea. But really that has no bearing on what needs to be done. She just went to quick into the netpot, with both, esp for a newb. Now I have started girls from seed that little in the wf, and almost lost one to that exact same thing. Now I have ran quite a few buckets and what I notice is, healthy plants that are receiving what they need in sufficient quantities, can live thru a range of ph with very few ill effects.. So in essence, I would say, she just needs to remain consistent with her lucas mix and try not to touch them, and buy an RO filter....
cjsbabygirl313
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For my next grow I’ll need to figure out what to put those rapid rooters in until its time to put them in the buckets ... but lesson learned it was too soon - live and learn!
Wisher2
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I suggest
CNS17 Grow
CNS17 Ripe
use grow until your plant starts to flower
first 2 weeks of flower you use both Grow and Ripe
then week 3 on you use Ripe until harvest
it is a 1 part as in it has a grow a bloom and a Ripe
I cut bloom out because it isnt needed
this is how it was dont before Bloom came out
bloom is just another added expense
I have actually ran an entire crop from beginning to end with Just grow
came out perfect
CNS17 Grow
CNS17 Ripe
use grow until your plant starts to flower
first 2 weeks of flower you use both Grow and Ripe
then week 3 on you use Ripe until harvest
it is a 1 part as in it has a grow a bloom and a Ripe
I cut bloom out because it isnt needed
this is how it was dont before Bloom came out
bloom is just another added expense
I have actually ran an entire crop from beginning to end with Just grow
came out perfect