How big is Canada’s marijuana market, really?Here’s why that’s not safe bet
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VIANARCHRIS
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https://globalnews.ca/video/4057486/will-cannabis-use-increase-once-it-is-legalized/?utm_source=Homegnca-bc&utm_medium=MostPopularVideo&utm_campaign=2018
Will cannabis use increase once it is legalized?
Opponents of cannabis legalization argue its use will “skyrocket” once it is legal. Meaghan Craig explores whether there is any truth to their fears.
Will cannabis use increase once it is legalized?
Opponents of cannabis legalization argue its use will “skyrocket” once it is legal. Meaghan Craig explores whether there is any truth to their fears.
ttystikk
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Here in Colorado total usage didn't change much from med legal to rec legal, because everyone who wanted it could already get it. The growth has all come from the cars in dispensary parking lots with out of state plates. That's not gonna work in Canada.
Canada has about 10% fewer people than California. The market just flat isn't going to support the high projected numbers, so prices will crash and several big producers will crash with them.
The upside of all this is that those who can grow more efficiently will win, and lots of excess warehouse space can be profitably put to use growing other crops.
This is the world I've been preparing myself for 10 years, and I have tech that will deliver those efficiency gains.
Canada has about 10% fewer people than California. The market just flat isn't going to support the high projected numbers, so prices will crash and several big producers will crash with them.
The upside of all this is that those who can grow more efficiently will win, and lots of excess warehouse space can be profitably put to use growing other crops.
This is the world I've been preparing myself for 10 years, and I have tech that will deliver those efficiency gains.
The Hippy
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A number of us knew this 4 years ago. we are patiently waiting for the crash and fall out. some will survive but most won't. We intend to not cooperate.
ttystikk
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Nothing wrong with that.
My tech will grow cilantro, salad greens, cucumbers, poinsettias, etc, etc...
We can thank the cannabis industry for creating the conditions that made such advances possible.
ttystikk
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Exactly. Massachusetts just passed a law that requires grow facilities to use LED lights, and must run them at 36W/ft² or less.The upside of all this is that those who can grow more efficiently will win, and grow a poison free killer medication!
yes we know eh
money mart 101..more laws more money..
water, waste and special hydro rates soon come!
should pay a price for added pollution..They do use pesticides after all......
ttystikk
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I see no reason why mandating the use of efficient technology should be seen as a burden. If you disagree, I'm interested in hearing your logic.
ttystikk
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California is planning to restrict the use of fertilizer salts in commercial grows to reduce pollution.money mart 101..more laws more money..
water, waste and special hydro rates soon come!
should pay a price for added pollution..They do use pesticides after all......
Certain counties here in Colorado already outlaw dumping runoff formdown drain for similar reasons.
How are these regulations bad for society?
HotKarl2
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Well, LEDs are more efficient, but as someone who just bought some and now needs to run a heater, they are not as efficient as you might think? In certain situations at certain +/- temperature ranges, they work awesome and efficiently. At others supplemental heat is needed, as cost and efficiency savings are lost or severely lessened.
ttystikk
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If you need more heat, buy insulation.
Heating with natural gas is more cost effective than electricity, so you're still saving.
I can't believe you're complaining about better efficiency.
HotKarl2
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Not complaining about better efficiency, what a cop out. I am saying that in certain climates you need to supplement heat that would otherwise be provided by your HID lighting. Sheesh. Pretty simple to grasp, and I don't want to pick a fight but you have to admit that this is the case...
BTW I can't heat with Natural Gas...and neither can a lot of people.
ttystikk
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Better insulation is still the solution.
What cop out?
I'm developing a system that will eliminate the need for additional heat, even in an Arctic winter. One of the big requirements is adequate insulation.
My system is admittedly more for larger grows where there can be two separate blooming spaces operating on opposite schedules. Then the system will pass excess heat from the side that's running to the side that isn't and then only shed the excess.
HotKarl2
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Power to you man. I mean it, hope you can accomplish that...
"What cop out?"
LEDs are more efficient so they produce less heat. In the arctic for example that heat would have to be made up for from some other energy source. In the summer in Canada where I live the LEDs allow me to grow indoors in the summer precisely because they produce LESS heat. So, you have to be intellectually honest here in what you are arguing. Your "tech" seems ultra cool if it can deliver though.
Mandating efficiency through coercion has to be the most inefficient way I can think of to do anything efficiently.
"What cop out?"
LEDs are more efficient so they produce less heat. In the arctic for example that heat would have to be made up for from some other energy source. In the summer in Canada where I live the LEDs allow me to grow indoors in the summer precisely because they produce LESS heat. So, you have to be intellectually honest here in what you are arguing. Your "tech" seems ultra cool if it can deliver though.
Mandating efficiency through coercion has to be the most inefficient way I can think of to do anything efficiently.
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ttystikk
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Producing less heat means just that and only that. If your space gets cold, insulate it! Insulation never costs energy.
Mandating more efficiency is how we got more efficient cars. The car manufacturers weren't going to do it by themselves. It was a good idea because the benefits of a more efficient transportation sector affect everyone, including the owners of those more efficient cars.
Similarly, a more efficient cannabis industry benefits the customer via lower prices for product, society via less electricity needed and the planet via less CO2 emitted.
The notion that 'more regulations are bad, period' is simply not supported by the facts either in engineering or in politics. Beware those who would sell such simplistic slogans, because they're usually protecting their vested interest at the potential expense of others.
HotKarl2
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LOL, I never said period...beware those who would sell you regulations as they most certainly have something of a monopoly in mind..
Maybe we got more efficient cars, but it is arguable that this was due to legislation. What we actually got brother, are cars that might be more efficient on gas, but that gas costs 3-4 times what it cost before the regulations. And the engines don't last near as long as the "gas" is more than 10% ethanol. It's arguable whether we got anything at all by legislation that the free market wouldn't have given us if it was what people wanted.
Now we have electric cars whose battery production causes entire cities to be complete hazardous waste lands. But those places are in China so we don't care and consider it sustainable. LOL right.
CalyxCrusher
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It forces businesses to have far more MASSIVE overheads as a result due to the initial buy in. Some may not be able to start their business as a result of the much higher initial costs for lighting alone.
Im all for LEDs and where theyre heading. Im not for taking peoples choices away using law especially when it comes to something as simple as lighting.
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HotKarl2
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Regulatory regimes create monopolies. History bears out this fact.