1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm

Cold$moke

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Its got 10x the biology in it that hydrogaurd does... but bro one beenies is better than no beenies.
Whats your point?
Do you think the lack of bacillus Amyloliquefaciens caused the root mass to under-develop?
She caused a damping off in the root crown, and the + life as well as hydrogaurd need time to heal that spot HOPEFULLY...
Like wisher said this is the pitfalls of DWC...
DWC is super fast growth and awesome yields, but they can be finicky...
You ought to try running 4 diff systems! If it wasnt for the fact that I have my shit down to a science and Wisher hooked me up with the cns17, I could never make it...
I run 2 rdwc and many individual buckets ;)
Been in water for 12 years
 

Cold$moke

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I might have had root rot mabey 3 times in 15 years :)

1st time was when i was a noob and tried running organic dwc and it worked till i got greedy and added too much carbs.

2nd time i put stuff in my res that said DO NOT ADD TO HYDRO. Lol

3rd time was this year
I got a bright idea to try to run sterile with bleach because i was growing using partial organic nutrients and i switched to a completely
Salt based nutrient and figured i should kill anything in the roots left by the bio stimulants using 4 drops per gallon of clorox.

I love the way the res smelled with bleach like a pool then 3 days later i had slime folloed by root rot.




If its root rot my regiem for root rot is to complety wash the system using hydrogen peroxide mixed with water as 3% will oxidise roots.

Give it a good rinse then rinse with regular water to stop the hydrogen peroxide from continuing to oxidise roots. Furthering the prob.

Then refill your setup with a low ppm food (about what you got now)

And give Hydrogaurd.

Thats other stuff may or may not be hydro safe BUT I KNOW hydroguard works in hydro. If it is hydro safe have at it:)

True the life+ does not have the same strain of bacillus that hydrogaurd and im New to bennies
So i dont know how well +life is

Went this whole time not using them cause i didnt need em only turned to them to fix the problem at the time .


Clearly you 2 got this ill be back in 3 days to check how its going :)
 

Cold$moke

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you got ph controllers/?
Nah just me lol i thought about automating

But i will be running a side by side of rdwc and meniscus membrane nft. On To see how much the meniscus method works over rdwc next run

If its within 10 percent im switching so i dont have to
1. Dump more nutes then necessary
2. No more air pumps or circ pumps putting money back in my pocket.
3. no chillers
I love rdwc ! But i think i have out grown the coolness of it

Because if its so awsome then why isnt every farm in the world doing it? Cause its not cost effective:)

Cause if it was we would have seen major AG using such methods .
 

Homie Da Clown

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Nah just me lol i thought about automating

But i will be running a side by side of rdwc and meniscus membrane nft. On To see how much the meniscus method works over rdwc next run

If its within 10 percent im switching so i dont have to
1. Dump more nutes then necessary
2. No more air pumps or circ pumps putting money back in my pocket.
3. no chillers
I love rdwc ! But i think i have out grown the coolness of it

Because if its so awsome then why isnt every farm in the world doing it? Cause its not cost effective:)

Cause if it was we would have seen major AG using such methods .
Cause dtw is cheaper and simpler.. Im with you on that.
 

Cold$moke

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I looked up the life the directions are pretty vague on specifically saying what kind of systems they are suitable for.

Like hydrogaurd is ok in dwc and rdwc.

But southern AG. Which is the same strain of bacillus Amyloliquefaciens But its at 98% more concentrated and supposedly someone spoke to a southern ag rep and they didnt recomend it for hydroponics for some reason.

As i looked into it as a cheap substitute for hydroguard but i know jypsydog runs it in his so who knows lol

I only mention this because

on the second time when i got rot its not so much that the additive wouldnt work in hydro. Like a dtw system

But i think being in a dwc might have acted like a brewer making the bad stuff lol

Anyways hope the plant gets better have a good one guys :)
 

Wisher2

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I looked up the life the directions are pretty vague on specifically saying what kind of systems they are suitable for.

Like hydrogaurd is ok in dwc and rdwc.

But southern AG. Which is the same strain of bacillus Amyloliquefaciens But its at 98% more concentrated and supposedly someone spoke to a southern ag rep and they didnt recomend it for hydroponics for some reason.

As i looked into it as a cheap substitute for hydroguard but i know jypsydog runs it in his so who knows lol

I only mention this because

on the second time when i got rot its not so much that the additive wouldnt work in hydro. Like a dtw system

But i think being in a dwc might have acted like a brewer making the bad stuff lol

Anyways hope the plant gets better have a good one guys :)
hydroponic research is purely an hydroponic company
specific nutrients for hydroponics
whether in media or aquaculture
they set up NFT systems for highschools in San Diego
they use RO/Soft nutrient and +life
 

Budley Doright

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Its got 10x the biology in it that hydrogaurd does... but bro one beenies is better than no beenies.
Whats your point?
Do you think the lack of bacillus Amyloliquefaciens caused the root mass to under-develop?
She caused a damping off in the root crown, and the + life as well as hydrogaurd need time to heal that spot HOPEFULLY...
Like wisher said this is the pitfalls of DWC...
DWC is super fast growth and awesome yields, but they can be finicky...
You ought to try running 4 diff systems! If it wasnt for the fact that I have my shit down to a science and Wisher hooked me up with the cns17, I could never make it...
All I was pointing out wa it’s not the same, as you stated it was ... bro lol. I also said that it may not be better, just not the same. You seem to get agitated easily lol. 4 setups, you must be busy lol.
 

Cold$moke

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Yea i saw the website :)

Still doesnt mean their instructions arent a little vague because i consider rdwc and nft 2 differnt types of hydro .

Basically ive found some stuff likes being bubbled and some does not ymmv as every room is different

I looked into veg + bloom when i was searching for a new nute
 

Budley Doright

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Yea i saw the website :)

Still doesnt mean their instructions arent a little vague because i consider rdwc and nft 2 differnt types of hydro .

Basically ive found some stuff likes being bubbled and some does not ymmv as every room is different

I looked into veg + bloom when i was searching for a new nute
Nice to see someone else up lol. Oh right its like 12 there ;).
 
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