Evil's Adventures Continue...........era of the AutoCob's.........

[hardknock]

I saw weeds competing with nutes in one of the photos posted herein. For a plant to grow luxuriously, it needs to be taken care of with passion like a baby.

 

[Evil-Mobo]

I saw weeds competing with nutes in one of the photos posted herein. For a plant to grow luxuriously, it needs to be taken care of with passion like a baby.

Please quote said plant so we can discuss .You don't come in to someone's thread and make a statement like that with no example of what you're talking about. All that causes is arguments not discussions. And I did not start this thread for arguing. So please provide and example of what you're talking about or kindly move on.

Thanks

 

[HydoDan]

She must not understand your living soil with the cover crops.. Hopefully she explains herself..

 

[OneHitDone]

Please quote said plant so we can discuss .You don't come in to someone's thread and make a statement like that with no example of what you're talking about. All that causes is arguments not discussions. And I did not start this thread for arguing. So please provide and example of what you're talking about or kindly move on.

Thanks

Probably this one, Calm down Grasshopper:

 

[Evil-Mobo]

Probably this one, Calm down Grasshopper:

That's my living soil bro with cover crop, those plants didn't even get bottled nutes so I have no idea what this person is talking about lol seems like a troll post from a new member and i aint having it in my grow thread lol

 

[Gentlemencorpse]

Damn man, love what you got going on here. Yours is the first living soil grow I've seen in action. I think a lot of people are unaware of the various roles plants can play in the nutrient cycle and think they are always competing for resources. I use cover crops for my vegetable gardens so I'm super curious about the mechanics behind using them for weed. I have to admit I didn't read all 16 pages of comments though haha. Do you document your living soil contents and processes anywhere? Or have any suggested places to find more info on it.

 

[Evil-Mobo]

Damn man, love what you got going on here. Yours is the first living soil grow I've seen in action. I think a lot of people are unaware of the various roles plants can play in the nutrient cycle and think they are always competing for resources. I use cover crops for my vegetable gardens so I'm super curious about the mechanics behind using them for weed. I have to admit I didn't read all 16 pages of comments though haha. Do you document your living soil contents and processes anywhere? Or have any suggested places to find more info on it.

Thanks for the kind words. I would suggest you start here:

When you're done there look here:
https://buildasoil.com/pages/the-complete-system

If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

FYI I am currently NOT doing living soil (indoors) but feel free to ask any questions. I will be getting the outdoor veggies going soon and can show you what I mix if you like......

 

[Evil-Mobo]

Ok, well I am trying not to post pics too often but it's go time now with stuff starting to bud up on one side of the 4x8 and the other side starting to push out pistils. I haven't put up pics since Monday and was in there today checking on things so here we go. I watered and fed everyone last night. The left side of the 4x8 was sprayed with method 1 pps for the last time and the veg tent got it's spray down again. The clones are still alive and looking like they will start rooting in a few days, and the cuts that came from the clone fairy are adjusting slowly but surely. I dropped some Auto beans into water that are testers to see if they pop not expecting much really as they're so fresh. The Sunflower grew 4" from last night to tonight freaking crazy lol. I also switched the sunflower to the Canna nutes two waterings ago because I wasn't going to be mixing Flora Nova for grow for just one plant. She seems to like the Canna very much. Also chopped down the two auto's that were drying yesterday and put them into containers to start curing. I cleaned one nug up a bit and took a pic as well. Also one other thing, I changed the distance to canopy from 30" to 24" to see what happens. I am still messing with the distance to canopy on my own with less watts than people feel I should be running, 30" had just been so good to me, but I think I can be closer and not burn the plants and cause deficiencies etc so we will see. I will adjust accordingly if needed. I feel the photo's can handle more intense light as the lights are not on for as long as with Auto's, just my thoughts. Open to discussion if anyone cares.

Thanks for checking in


Shot of a Purple Gorilla nug



The 4x8







The veg tent

 

[ttystikk]

Thanks brother, how's your fight going?

The wheels of Justice turn slowly. Next month...

 

[Evil-Mobo]

The wheels of Justice turn slowly. Next month...

Fingers crossed brother

 

[Tim Fox]

Ok, well I am trying not to post pics too often but it's go time now with stuff starting to bud up on one side of the 4x8 and the other side starting to push out pistils. I haven't put up pics since Monday and was in there today checking on things so here we go. I watered and fed everyone last night. The left side of the 4x8 was sprayed with method 1 pps for the last time and the veg tent got it's spray down again. The clones are still alive and looking like they will start rooting in a few days, and the cuts that came from the clone fairy are adjusting slowly but surely. I dropped some Auto beans into water that are testers to see if they pop not expecting much really as they're so fresh. The Sunflower grew 4" from last night to tonight freaking crazy lol. I also switched the sunflower to the Canna nutes two waterings ago because I wasn't going to be mixing Flora Nova for grow for just one plant. She seems to like the Canna very much. Also chopped down the two auto's that were drying yesterday and put them into containers to start curing. I cleaned one nug up a bit and took a pic as well. Also one other thing, I changed the distance to canopy from 30" to 24" to see what happens. I am still messing with the distance to canopy on my own with less watts than people feel I should be running, 30" had just been so good to me, but I think I can be closer and not burn the plants and cause deficiencies etc so we will see. I will adjust accordingly if needed. I feel the photo's can handle more intense light as the lights are not on for as long as with Auto's, just my thoughts. Open to discussion if anyone cares.

Thanks for checking in


Shot of a Purple Gorilla nug

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The 4x8

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The veg tent

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lol, the sunflower is sitting over there,,, saying "what,, what are you looking at",,,

 

[Tim Fox]

Shot of a Purple Gorilla nug

ya check out that nug

 

[Evil-Mobo]

lol, the sunflower is sitting over there,,, saying "what,, what are you looking at",,,

For real, I still can't get over an 8 inch stretch over two nights and under 6500K lights no less which supposedly cause "less" stretch LOL

 

[Evil-Mobo]

Man what a week and weekend for me hope everyone is all gravy. Well everything is growing LOL, and I have to say this is, in my opinion, my best run of girls in a while as far as health overall and having that nice natural look and feel that I always seek. Last time this was going on I was using HID, so I have had a bit of a learning curve switching to all COB's but I think I'm getting close to getting where I want to be. I want to address a few things. I've had a few folks ask me why this grow is not in the LED section, well I didn't want it there, there's just too much bickering going on and threads get hacked and clogged up with BS, just not for me at this point in my life. Secondly, I am not growing with LED's in any aspect of what is considered standard. I have tried the "standard" word of mouth forum king rules for LED growing and all I get is less yield, and stunted plants that are mag whores. So here's what "I" do that works for me and it's not that hard. Guys are using too high Watts/Sq. Ft, running the lights too close to the canopy, and thus having to feed more or extra ingredients to fix issues that should not exist in the first place. This is my opinion and I'm not here to argue it with someone trying to call me out based on some freaking chart some where, but I'd be happy to discuss this further with anyone in a "civil" manner who has input based off of actual feedback from testing in a grow no forum jocky's . What I am finding optimal thus far with my grows not hearsay, is 30" distance to canopy for veg and 24" for flower. This is for my photoperiod plants, I have a different light theory for my "Auto's". I am feeding at 1.2 EC with the nutes I am using and keeping PH between 5.8-6.0 (I shoot for 6.0 each time). So now that we got that crap out of the way let's move on huh.

Today I watered and fed again as the plants look freaking perfect running along with a lower feed but feeding every watering vs trying to guess when to water at higher feed levels and when to use just water. I have also found my Sunflower of all things to be a great determining factor on when to water the garden. When she's thirsty everything else is too but not too dry. This is just a visual aid not a replacement for the standard ways of checking for how thirsty your plants are. Feed in the 4x8 was Flora Nova Grow, Protekt, Cal-Mag Plus, EC 1.2 and PH 6.0 on the nose. I went out yesterday and picked up a nifty nozzle and a 20 gallon bin to go along with my little giant pump and hose so I can water easier and with less exhaustion as these girls are just too big now to risk messing them up moving them in and out of the tent for watering and they're not done stretching by any means.

(cut me slack on the floor I know it's dirty I will be taking care of that tomorrow)



This is a back saver and cuts my time down dramatically.

Here's the 4x8 as a whole and a shot of each side individually again, the taller two Dark Plasma cut's on the left side in the back are 42" tall from the top of the media (not including height of the pot)







Here's a shot of the veg tent, I watered and fed everything in here with the Canna coco line (A&B, Rhizo, and Cannazyme) EC 1.2 and PH 5.9. I topped of the cloner with the same nutes and made sure EC and PH was on point. I watered the coleus with plain water, and I sprayed everything down with my method 1 pps. I also have one of my bred seeds in house of the Sour Hound Auto popping the coco in a small container. Want to try and grow it out in coco with the Canna Line as well to see what's up. I also have some Auto seeds that went into a paper towel and zip lock trying to germ and see if I can grow them out as I have an empty tent right now and want to see how these turned out I hadn't really made my own Auto Fem seeds before and want to make sure they're not garbage before sharing with a few buddies.



I have some changes planned for one part of the garden. I have been at this grow now for a year + in this location (coming up on 2 years growing overall in May) and have a better idea of what the room temps and humidity will do throughout the year. I have always loved hydro because I love to tinker and I'm going to setup the veg tent for top drip hydro in hydroton and pots with a res underneath to recirculate the water. I am also thinking of mixing up the COB's between the two 3x3's to combine the 3000K/6500K in each of the two 3x3's and see what the plants do. Just need to build a frame for the flood tray order a few parts and drill a couple of holes. Also have to start getting things together for this years outdoor veggie grow which I am excited about as I have been granted a larger space than last year

I do believe that covers everything and I hope everyone has a good weekend.

 

[ttystikk]

https://www.rollitup.org/t/cannabis-daily-light-integral.921153/

There's a lot of really good info in this thread which would tend to confirm your approach of lower light intensity to push the plants less and get better gpw. They suggest a continuum of light intensity where one point is max gpw and another is max grams per square foot.

There's also some fascinating discussion about short daylight cycles.

Anyway, it's an interesting conversation and I plan to do some experimenting along these lines- when I can get up and running again, that is.

 

[Evil-Mobo]

https://www.rollitup.org/t/cannabis-daily-light-integral.921153/

There's a lot of really good info in this thread which would tend to confirm your approach of lower light intensity to push the plants less and get better gpw. They suggest a continuum of light intensity where one point is max gpw and another is max grams per square foot.

There's also some fascinating discussion about short daylight cycles.

Anyway, it's an interesting conversation and I plan to do some experimenting along these lines- when I can get up and running again, that is.

Definitely interested brother I will go have a look later. Right now I'm off to my spot for a check in and some cleaning up.

Rahz also started a good thread where I am introducing the similar discussion of pushing the plants less into it here:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/rahz-notes-and-observations.961472/

From what I am seeing so far first hand in this run we have all been missing something because the plants do not lie. Can't wait to see what you have up your sleeve..........

I'm getting a hankering to tinker with a vert grow again soon..............

 

[GroErr]

https://www.rollitup.org/t/cannabis-daily-light-integral.921153/

There's a lot of really good info in this thread which would tend to confirm your approach of lower light intensity to push the plants less and get better gpw. They suggest a continuum of light intensity where one point is max gpw and another is max grams per square foot.

There's also some fascinating discussion about short daylight cycles.

Anyway, it's an interesting conversation and I plan to do some experimenting along these lines- when I can get up and running again, that is.

Interesting subject, I'd experienced one really good yielding run early last year when I ran ~22w/sq. ft at one end of the room. They yielded great, but took an extra 7-10 days to finish. However that was also at 12.5/11.5. I'm wondering how they'd do at 11.5/12.5 which has shaved close to a week off my cycles on average. Running lower ppfd, shorter hours & good yields wouldn't be bad I didn't like the extended finish at 12.5/11.5, but the yields were awesome.

Looking great, and full in there Evil

 

[Evil-Mobo]

Interesting subject, I'd experienced one really good yielding run early last year when I ran ~22w/sq. ft at one end of the room. They yielded great, but took an extra 7-10 days to finish. However that was also at 12.5/11.5. I'm wondering how they'd do at 11.5/12.5 which has shaved close to a week off my cycles on average. Running lower ppfd, shorter hours & good yields wouldn't be bad I didn't like the extended finish at 12.5/11.5, but the yields were awesome.

Looking great, and full in there Evil

Thanks brother. I switched the two 3x3's around today as far as lights go. I took the 5th COB out of each tent, to match the watts per sq/ft of the 4x8 and then mixed them up 2 & 2 between the 3000K and the 6500K. It's pulling 228 at the wall just the lights and looks wonderful to the naked eye like a more realistic 3500K light we will see what the plants have to say about it.............

 

[ttystikk]

Interesting subject, I'd experienced one really good yielding run early last year when I ran ~22w/sq. ft at one end of the room. They yielded great, but took an extra 7-10 days to finish. However that was also at 12.5/11.5. I'm wondering how they'd do at 11.5/12.5 which has shaved close to a week off my cycles on average. Running lower ppfd, shorter hours & good yields wouldn't be bad I didn't like the extended finish at 12.5/11.5, but the yields were awesome.

Looking great, and full in there Evil

I'm beginning to suspect that more isn't always better, myself.

 

[ttystikk]

Definitely interested brother I will go have a look later. Right now I'm off to my spot for a check in and some cleaning up.

Rahz also started a good thread where I am introducing the similar discussion of pushing the plants less into it here:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/rahz-notes-and-observations.961472/

From what I am seeing so far first hand in this run we have all been missing something because the plants do not lie. Can't wait to see what you have up your sleeve..........

I'm getting a hankering to tinker with a vert grow again soon..............

I'll check that thread out!

Vertical is fun and easier on the back lol