The Fog of War in America

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
1 star out of three

Not wrong, just not informative, new or original. Just a rehash of what we already knew, posted by an attention seeker.

Would not recommend to freinds
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If it isn't necessary then why comment?

Why are Americans so passively willing to continue allowing such a Holocaust continue in their- your- name?

You'd rather pathetically try to shame those fighting for change than actually agitate for an end to the nightmare, so your opinion is completely without value or credibility.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
If it isn't necessary then why comment?

Why are Americans so passively willing to continue allowing such a Holocaust continue in their- your- name?

You'd rather pathetically try to shame those fighting for change than actually agitate for an end to the nightmare, so your opinion is completely without value or credibility.
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please don't degrade and disrespect the actual holocaust.

1 star out of three. not wrong, just not new or informative. would not recommend
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
please don't degrade and disrespect the actual holocaust.

1 star out of three. not wrong, just not new or informative. would not recommend
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Really? So Jews get to have the only one? Nobody else ever gets to qualify, huh?

I'm not denigrating Jewish suffering during WWII.

I AM drawing attention to the millions that America has killed ever since.

But you go right on denying if it makes you feel better.
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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ttystikk said:
Really? So Jews get to have the only one? Nobody else ever gets to qualify, huh?

I'm not denigrating Jewish suffering during WWII.

I AM drawing attention to the millions that America has killed ever since.

But you go right on denying if it makes you feel better.
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Get to have? You say it with such contempt, sad really
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Justin-case said:
Get to have? You say it with such contempt, sad really
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Nice deflection from the point.

Since when are the Jewish people so exceptional that no one else can have a Holocaust but them?

You're the denier. And by denying America's historic run of crimes against humanity you aid and abet it, supporting its continuation.

I just can't have all that blood on my hands.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
Nice deflection from the point.

Since when are the Jewish people so exceptional that no one else can have a Holocaust but them?

You're the denier. And by denying America's historic run of crimes against humanity you aid and abet it, supporting its continuation.

I just can't have all that blood on my hands.
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If you didn't participate why is the blood on your hands? Are you responsible for what other people do or have done ?

Did somebody assign you to a team and you never questioned it ?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
If you didn't participate why is the blood on your hands? Are you responsible for what other people do or have done ?

Did somebody assign you to a team and you never questioned it ?
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It's my country. Like it or not, it's my 'team'. If I don't stand up in active opposition to the crimes of my nation, then I'm at least tacitly approving them. After all, the motherfuckers do it in the name of my 'security'- and yours.

I know that the idea of political responsibility is foreign to you, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
It's my country. Like it or not, it's my 'team'. If I don't stand up in active opposition to the crimes of my nation, then I'm at least tacitly approving them. After all, the motherfuckers do it in the name of my 'security'- and yours.

I know that the idea of political responsibility is foreign to you, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Nations don't commit crimes, people do. You are not responsible for what others do, they are.

A nation is a type of tool to herd useful idiots. I'm trying to keep you from loading yourself into the truck bringing you to the glue factory and all you can do is ask where the guy with the bale of hay went to?

Politics is a tool used to shift responsibility and create distractions.

 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
Nations don't commit crimes, people do. You are not responsible for what others do, they are.

A nation is a type of tool to herd useful idiots. I'm trying to keep you from loading yourself into the truck bringing you to the glue factory and all you can do is ask where the guy with the bale of hay went to?

Politics is a tool used to shift responsibility and create distractions.

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When people take control of a Nation to commit crimes, the People have the responsibility to put things right.

You wouldn't understand because you can't imagine the value of mutually beneficial collective action.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
When people take control of a Nation to commit crimes, the People have the responsibility to put things right.

You wouldn't understand because you can't imagine the value of mutually beneficial collective action.
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I do understand the benefit of a mutually beneficial idea, If you allow others to self determine, you should be able to self determine too. I don't think there IS a more basic understanding than that.

I also understand the deficiencies of a mutually oppressive collective action, which is something too many people seem to think must exist. It will exist as long as people remain ignorant to the alternatives. That's a nice way of saying when people stop being useful idiots, they'll cease limiting their choices within the intentional false dichotomies they've been told are all there is.
 
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