Cannabis grow-op registry needed to protect homebuyers, association urges

gb123

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No more TOEMATTS for YOU! :razz::blsmoke:
Ontario Real Estate Association report suggests grow-op risks will soar after cannabis is legalized (idiots thin it hasnt been going on already?. NO ISSUES)
this is laughable how friggin narrow minded they really are and for unfounded reasons.


The Ontario Real Estate Association (OREA) wants the province to introduce more protections for homebuyers from properties damaged by cannabis grow-ops — and it wants those changes made before recreational cannabis is legalized later this year.

"Make no bones about it, as of this summer more people will be growing pot at home," warned OREA president David Reid at a media conference at the Ontario legislature Monday.

Reid pointed to statistics from police in Denver, Colorado — where the drug has been legal since 2014 — suggesting one in 10 homes in that city is being used to grow cannabis.

"Ontario must take steps to protect homeowners and prospective homebuyers about the health and safety risks associated with former marijuana grow-ops," said Reid.

The head of the Ottawa Real Estate Board, Ralph Shaw, said he's seen what can happen to homes damaged by cannabis grow-ops.

"It's the mould and the fungus and the moisture that causes the problem ... and it can destroy the frame structure of a house. So you're into not just tens of thousands, but certainly $50,000 to $100,000 isn't uncommon to clean up and retrofit a home that's been used as a grow-op, so it's very serious," Shaw said.



Ralph Shaw, a real estate agent and president of the Ottawa Real Estate Board, said he's seen entire houses ruined by cannabis grow-ops.(Amanda Pfeffer/CBC)
5 possible fixes
An OREA report asks for these five changes to Ontario law:

  • Changing the building code to designate illegal drug operations as unsafe buildings requiring remediation.
  • Requiring municipal inspections of designated unsafe buildings.
  • Registering municipal work orders for remediation on the Ontario land title system.
  • Training home inspectors to spot damage caused by grow-ops.
  • Reducing the allowable number of personal plants from four to one in multi-unit dwellings smaller than 1,000 square feet.
OREA has tried before to lobby the province to introduce a registry, and supported a 2013 private member's bill from Nepean—Carleton MPP Lisa MacLeod, which did not pass through the legislature.

OREA now suggests with legalization looming a registry is more important than ever, saying that the number of illegal grow-ops rose in Colorado following legalization there.



One Ottawa woman bought a fixer-upper bungalow as an investment, but it turned out to be a former grow-op that's cost her $30,000 in remediation costs. (Claudette Charron)
Colorado agents worry registry could hurt values


Kelly Moye, a spokesperson for the Colorado Association of Realtors, said the organization has not called for a grow-op registry in her state.(Kelly Moye)
However, Kelly Moye, a spokesperson for the Colorado Association of Realtors, said the association hasn't called for a registry in that state.

Although Moye said she likes the idea of rules protecting homeowners and buyers by mandating remediation, a registry could permanently stigmatize homes and neighbourhoods.

Under Colorado law, for example, homeowners don't have to disclose former meth labs as long as they're cleaned up according to state regulations, Moye said.

"So meth is certainly a lot more toxic than any type of marijuana growing, and we allow that disclosure to end once it's cleaned up, so it would seem fair that disclosures of marijuana should end so it doesn't impact the property forever."

Ontario to consider new rules
A spokesperson for the Ministry of the Attorney General did not close the door to OREA's suggestions.

"As we approach the federal government's legalization of cannabis, we will continue to work with all sectors, including realtors, homeowners, landlords to ensure that people have the necessary information and protections in place to make informed decisions about buying and selling a home," wrote spokesperson Brian Gray.

The province is already set to revamp training and expectations for home inspectors and the ministry "is currently developing regulations to set qualifications for home inspectors and will consider OREA's proposal as a part of this work."

The province sounded less interested in limiting the number of plants grown in smaller residences, as suggested by Gray: "The federal government and their task force recommended four plants for legal home cultivation. We have aligned with that approach (...)"



How grow-ops damage a house
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Playback DetailsCBC Caffeine Player 13.0.3Ralph Shaw, president of the Ottawa Real Estate Board, describes the effect of growing marijauna on a property. 0:34
 

gb123

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its called a HOME INSPECTION hahaha
where idiots who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground get paid to lie about things theyve got no clue about when it comes to buying a sHIT HOME :lol:
 

gb123

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  • Training home inspectors to spot damage caused by grow-ops.
  • a FIX ?
  • Well THEY SHOULD BE TRAINED FIRST AND Foremost but we all know theyre not.. :)
 

gb123

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its very serious...!!???:hump::wall::finger::evil::cuss::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:
it sure is when they luie about shit they dont have a clue about:idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:
No sick person is gonna grow pot to make themsleves sicker or their home less valuable for sale:idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea:
Who thefuck do these fools think they are suggesting such stupidity? :hump::hump::lol::lol::roll::roll::roll:
they are so friggin blinded by money and what............ everyone else should do!:hump::hump:
PPPHHTTT Lol
 

itsmehigh

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There are thousands of former “grow opps” in the lower mainland that financial institutions will refuse to finance. I am currently involved in purchasing one of them, huge hassle. The property was remediated in 2009 and has been passed by the city. Regardless of current condition or size of “grow opp” it will be black listed forever by the banks and never be accepted for financing. After spending $900 on an environmental and air quality test for piece of mind, we are placing an offer on it. It has been on market for 5 months and seven offers have been accepted only for financing to fall through. They are asking $759k, and we are offering $599k cash. Hopefully they are desperate enough to take our low ball offer. Point is that former “grow ops” regardless of size or current condition are a real challenge to get financing for. Landlords need protection.

Itsme.
 

gb123

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MEDICAL GROW OPS!!!!
not REC!!!!!!
huge diff here!!!!!
quit yappin out both sides of yer mouth :lol:

Wish people could wrap their heads around the DIFFERENCE?
Not your fault..its the others who make it difficult lol with their lack of understanding and comprehension with this NEW industry.
Oh SHIT there's that fucking word again
DIFFERENT! ha HA

One is an issue The other ISN'T AN ISSUE AT ALL
Who here actually gets this? :lol:


ps Hope ya get yer place! ;)
 

itsmehigh

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MEDICAL GROW OPS!!!!
not REC!!!!!!
huge diff here!!!!!
quit yappin out both sides of yer mouth :lol:

Wish people could wrap their heads around the DIFFERENCE?
Not your fault..its the others who make it difficult lol with their lack of understanding and comprehension with this NEW industry.
Oh SHIT there's that fucking word again
DIFFERENT! ha HA

One is an issue The other ISN'T AN ISSUE AT ALL
Who here actually gets this? :lol:


ps Hope ya get yer place! ;)
The small town (30,000) I’m looking at had over 750 MMAR Licensed grows in it. This was a MMAR Licensed garden. With an overheated and corroded elec. panel. Authorities were notified because of high electric consumption. Leagal medical gardens in your house will result in banks never financing it.

Itsme.
 

gb123

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get the financing then start your legal medial grow that's legal by anyone who is sick in Cannada :)

750 MMAR? ..smart community ! (::weed:
 

itsmehigh

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get the financing then start your legal medial grow that's legal by anyone who is sick in Cannada :)

750 MMAR? ..smart community ! (::weed:
Any complaints or investigations on your property will result in a red flag, legal or not. Once the property has been flagged as a cannabis production location, no bank will ever finance that property again. The owner/land lord will be stuck with it.

Itsme.
 

itsmehigh

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The house I’m looking at had $130k worth of remediation in 2009, Bank still won’t finance it, the owner is stuck with it, unless someone like me low balls them a cash offer. I just shelled out $900 for an environmental and air quality testing, passed with flying colours.

Itsme.
 

HotKarl2

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Any complaints or investigations on your property will result in a red flag, legal or not. Once the property has been flagged as a cannabis production location, no bank will ever finance that property again. The owner/land lord will be stuck with it.

Itsme.
Could you help me understand how that could happen with the ACMPR system? Example - someone reports your ACMPR grow, the cops are supposed to call Health Canada, and it checks out, where is the red flag placed?
 

itsmehigh

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Could you help me understand how that could happen with the ACMPR system? Example - someone reports your ACMPR grow, the cops are supposed to call Health Canada, and it checks out, where is the red flag placed?
In BC when you sell your house/condo you need to fill out a full disclosure form. You need to disclose if any “controlled” substances were produced in the home among other things.. Failure to disclose that cannabis was grown in the house could result in law suits if there was ever an issue. Banks require to see the full disclosure before they will approve fianancing. Not sure what protocol is used across Canada, but BC has it. A freedom of information request can be made to the city and cops to find out what if anything has taken place at that address. It’s there to protect the buyer. Personally I would never grow cannabis inside my house with my family.

Itsme.
 
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gb123

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In BC when you sell your house/condo you need to fill out a full disclosure form. You need to disclose if any “controlled” substances were produced in the home among other things.. Failure to disclose that cannabis was grown in the house could result in law suits if there was ever an issue. Banks require to see the full disclosure before they will approve fianancing. Not sure what protocol is used across Canada, but BC has it. A freedom of information request can be made to the city and cops to find out what if anything has taken place at that address. It’s there to protect the buyer. Personally I would never grow cannabis inside my house with my family.

Itsme.
I grew ......................with my family in my home for the last 15 years. .............No Issue. and Im here because of it..WTG DAD! (:

High and mighty BULLSHIT I tell ya..pppppphhhhttttt
Sold the house the end of 2016. Thank you ! :)
The house was sold Prior to the buyer even knowing he had an extra 1200 sq feet. That he didnt know was part of the house. I didnt show the house.8-) There was absolutely no reason to show them my GUN ROOM (: All locked up and hidden from prying eyes.
The Buyer.... was livid....knowing he had his own personal CANTINA ;) (::clap::clap::idea::grin::lol:

Amazing how it all goes when ya suggest what it could have been, rather than what it actually was.
Why would anyone disclose growing in their home when it was done THE BEST FUCKING WAY POSSIBLE???>
riddle me that one bat man.:???:
I get the fact THEY WANT YOU TO DISCLOSE but who in their right fucking mind would.
It just makes it possible now for them to say something knowing you actually did grow and they can use that as an excuse for SHIT Construction ... MOLD IN WALLS and ATTIC..... from BAD VENTILATION and INSULATION !?!
oh like anyone here knows about that..lolhahahah fuck me

what they want us all to do in this life is HILARIOUS beyond belief...:hump::hump::finger::idea::P
 
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itsmehigh

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I grew ......................with my family in my home for the last 15 years. .............No Issue. and Im here because of it..WTG DAD! (:

High and mighty BULLSHIT I tell ya..pppppphhhhttttt
Sold the house the end of 2016. Thank you ! :)
The house was sold Prior to the buyer even knowing he had an extra 1200 sq feet. That he didnt know was part of the house. I didnt show the house.8-) There was absolutely no reason to show them my GUN ROOM (: All locked up and hidden from prying eyes.
The Buyer.... was livid....knowing he had his own personal CANTINA ;) (::clap::clap::idea::grin::lol:

Amazing how it all goes when ya suggest what it could have been, rather than what it actually was.
Why would anyone disclose growing in their home when it was done THE BEST FUCKING WAY POSSIBLE???>
riddle me that one bat man.:???:
I get the fact THEY WANT YOU TO DISCLOSE but who in their right fucking mind would.
It just makes it possible now for them to say something knowing you actually did grow and they can use that as an excuse for SHIT Construction ... MOLD IN WALLS and ATTIC..... from BAD VENTILATION and INSULATION !?!
oh like anyone here knows about that..lolhahahah fuck me

what they want us all to do in this life is HILARIOUS beyond belief...:hump::hump::finger::idea::P
Anybody care to translate this into a compressible paragraph please?
So much bullshit his eyes are brown.....

Itsme.
 

WHATFG

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We shouldn't be allowed to grow anything indoors....geez...I would think that if you've set yourself up properly, you're not going to have problems...it's the shitheads that grow recklessly in houses that need to be disclosed.
 

gb123

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Anybody care to translate this into a compressible paragraph please?
So much bullshit his eyes are brown.....

Itsme.
You have this IDEA in yer head that growing with your family is BAD..and even suggest or infer it as such
and yet you expect other non growers to except you??? :roll:

:lol:

What have I missed here? (: beside ya talking out both sides of YOUR mouth ?
 
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