DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

[nicksol86]

You can do organics in hydro, its a more advanced form but you must get a handle on hydro itself before you go that route.

Organics and non organics don't mix together though right ?

 

[nicksol86]

Are there any products on Amazon that I can order in place of the mycogrow soluble or zho powder or great white? I couldn't find the mycogrow or zho powder on Amazon. I found great white but read bad stuff about making tea with it. Is there any products with a link to something on Amazon that will work? Got the ancient forest soil and hydroguard but not sure what myco product to get on Amazon? Please and thank you

 

[Mr.jojodancer305]

@Mr.jojodancer305 Make sure you cover the tops of those yellow lids with something, they are not 100% light-tight.

@nicksol86 I see what you're saying, about organics. The three bottles all say they're okay for both hydro and organics right on the label. (I just wanted to make sure in terms of using with the Bennies Tea.)
^Tea gets strained (not that fine though) before going into res, that way I hope to get the benefits of the organics nutes without clogging up my system/stones.



I don't think I have any slime. I am using EWC.

I'll probably add a little bit, one at a time (so just a bit of flora nectar in the tea this time) and see how they react. It's sugar cane and molasses so it *should* help breed them microbes.

& Thanks for clearing up that myth!

Cover the lids with what ? PpPlea let me know what I can use

 

[Joint Monster]

Cover the lids with what ? PpPlea let me know what I can use

In no particular order..
Duct Tape. Garbage Bag (White>Black). Poly/Panda Film. Mylar. Reflective insulation. Foil (I wouldn't).

 

[Mr.jojodancer305]

In no particular order..
Duct Tape. Garbage Bag (White>Black). Poly/Panda Film. Mylar. Reflective insulation. Foil (I wouldn't).

Got it and thank you

 

[kingtitan]

@Mr.jojodancer305 Make sure you cover the tops of those yellow lids with something, they are not 100% light-tight.

@nicksol86 I see what you're saying, about organics. The three bottles all say they're okay for both hydro and organics right on the label. (I just wanted to make sure in terms of using with the Bennies Tea.)
^Tea gets strained (not that fine though) before going into res, that way I hope to get the benefits of the organics nutes without clogging up my system/stones.



I don't think I have any slime. I am using EWC.

I'll probably add a little bit, one at a time (so just a bit of flora nectar in the tea this time) and see how they react. It's sugar cane and molasses so it *should* help breed them microbes.

& Thanks for clearing up that myth!

By the slime I meant the good healthy coating in your containers and on the roots. You can feel it on everything that is in contact with water. This is not the same stuff that was killing your plants aka Brown Slime Cyanobacteria

 

[kingtitan]

Organics and non organics don't mix together though right ?

You can but its not necessary for nutrient, more to have the microbe population.

 

[John1961]

Hi folks,

I don't post her much but after what I've learned using this tea, I just had to share some pics.

I'm currently on my third DWC grow. All three grows have been plagued with the brown slime and it was only until I discovered this thread when I figured out what I was dealing with and how to fix it.

My brew consists of:

• 1 gallon of RO water
• 15ml of Hydroguard
• 1/2 teaspoon Great White
• 1/2 tablespoon unsulfured molasses
• 1/4 cup of Ancient Earth

I brew this in an aerated bucket for 48 to 72 hours in my basement where the temp is around 67 or so (where I also have my grow tent). I decided to brew a little longer than the standard 48 hours since my temps are a few degrees lower than the low to mid 70's as recommended in this thread. After brewing, I then just strain my bucket into a pitcher and I'm ready to go.

My reservoir holds five gallons of water so I began my treatment regimen using five cups of tea along with my nutrients (AN PH Perfect Connoisseur Parts A & B). Strain is Trainwreck.

Here is my plant at Day 0 of treatment using my tea. I had just scrubbed the tub clean and rinsed the roots using a sprayer, getting off as much as the slime as possible.

At this point, she had been growing for 9 weeks and I had far more growth topside than root growth in the tub. Admittedly, I should have picked up on this problem weeks ago, but I am always learning. And by this point, she had pretty much stalled out. She wasn't getting any bigger and she barely drank water or ate any nutrients for a couple of weeks. From the picture below, you can see why.

I continued my treatment regimen by adding a cup of tea to the reservoir every two days. Here are the roots at Day 2 (48 hours since treatment began). You can see that the roots are lightening up and there are new white roots coming in.

Day 4 of treatment. Another cup of tea added to the reservoir. I was amazed to see all the new growth coming in.

Day 6 of treatment. Mama mia! What an explosion of roots! As you can imagine, by this time growth on the topside was showing signs of recovery as well.

Day 8 below. Reservoir just changed the day previous and I began again with five gallons of RO water and 5 cups of tea. By this time, not only did I have a mass of white roots above the water line, but now I could see a growing mass of white below the surface.

And finally, here I am at Day 13 since treatment began. The root mass in the tub has exploded beyond I ever imagined it would. Tomorrow is another reservoir change and five cups of tea.

And I think I'm ready to flip to flower. Wish me luck!

And of course, a massive thanks goes to Heizenberg and everyone else who posted on this tread.

 

[DrCannaPath]

Are there any products on Amazon that I can order in place of the mycogrow soluble or zho powder or great white? I couldn't find the mycogrow or zho powder on Amazon. I found great white but read bad stuff about making tea with it. Is there any products with a link to something on Amazon that will work? Got the ancient forest soil and hydroguard but not sure what myco product to get on Amazon? Please and thank you

Ive been brewing with great white alone with excellent results for years .. never had an issue. I use half the scoop of great white with a tablespoon of molasses .... used to brew for exaxtly 48 hours. Noe i do it for 36

Check out my current Organic Fruit Garden:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/945580/
and my previous Organic Run:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/930415/
and my previous QuadStrain grow :
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/916619/
and my previous TriStrain grow :
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/

 

[nicksol86]

Hi folks,

I don't post her much but after what I've learned using this tea, I just had to share some pics.

I'm currently on my third DWC grow. All three grows have been plagued with the brown slime and it was only until I discovered this thread when I figured out what I was dealing with and how to fix it.

My brew consists of:

• 1 gallon of RO water
• 15ml of Hydroguard
• 1/2 teaspoon Great White
• 1/2 tablespoon unsulfured molasses
• 1/4 cup of Ancient Earth

I brew this in an aerated bucket for 48 to 72 hours in my basement where the temp is around 67 or so (where I also have my grow tent). I decided to brew a little longer than the standard 48 hours since my temps are a few degrees lower than the low to mid 70's as recommended in this thread. After brewing, I then just strain my bucket into a pitcher and I'm ready to go.

My reservoir holds five gallons of water so I began my treatment regimen using five cups of tea along with my nutrients (AN PH Perfect Connoisseur Parts A & B). Strain is Trainwreck.

Here is my plant at Day 0 of treatment using my tea. I had just scrubbed the tub clean and rinsed the roots using a sprayer, getting off as much as the slime as possible.

At this point, she had been growing for 9 weeks and I had far more growth topside than root growth in the tub. Admittedly, I should have picked up on this problem weeks ago, but I am always learning. And by this point, she had pretty much stalled out. She wasn't getting any bigger and she barely drank water or ate any nutrients for a couple of weeks. From the picture below, you can see why.

I continued my treatment regimen by adding a cup of tea to the reservoir every two days. Here are the roots at Day 2 (48 hours since treatment began). You can see that the roots are lightening up and there are new white roots coming in.

Day 4 of treatment. Another cup of tea added to the reservoir. I was amazed to see all the new growth coming in.

Day 6 of treatment. Mama mia! What an explosion of roots! As you can imagine, by this time growth on the topside was showing signs of recovery as well.

Day 8 below. Reservoir just changed the day previous and I began again with five gallons of RO water and 5 cups of tea. By this time, not only did I have a mass of white roots above the water line, but now I could see a growing mass of white below the surface.

And finally, here I am at Day 13 since treatment began. The root mass in the tub has exploded beyond I ever imagined it would. Tomorrow is another reservoir change and five cups of tea.

And I think I'm ready to flip to flower. Wish me luck!

And of course, a massive thanks goes to Heizenberg and everyone else who posted on this tread.

Thanks for the awesome share. Good looking out

 

[nicksol86]

Ive been brewing with great white alone with excellent results for years .. never had an issue. I use half the scoop of great white with a tablespoon of molasses .... used to brew for exaxtly 48 hours. Noe i do it for 36

Check out my current Organic Fruit Garden:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/945580/
and my previous Organic Run:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/930415/
and my previous QuadStrain grow :
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/916619/
and my previous TriStrain grow :
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/

Thanks for your reply. I will try Great White then. People on this site are awesome. Thanks so much

 

[nicksol86]

What if I just put yogurt in my res? It has live and active cultures. LMFAO JK

 

[Mr.jojodancer305]

Hi folks,

I don't post her much but after what I've learned using this tea, I just had to share some pics.

I'm currently on my third DWC grow. All three grows have been plagued with the brown slime and it was only until I discovered this thread when I figured out what I was dealing with and how to fix it.

My brew consists of:

• 1 gallon of RO water
• 15ml of Hydroguard
• 1/2 teaspoon Great White
• 1/2 tablespoon unsulfured molasses
• 1/4 cup of Ancient Earth

I brew this in an aerated bucket for 48 to 72 hours in my basement where the temp is around 67 or so (where I also have my grow tent). I decided to brew a little longer than the standard 48 hours since my temps are a few degrees lower than the low to mid 70's as recommended in this thread. After brewing, I then just strain my bucket into a pitcher and I'm ready to go.

My reservoir holds five gallons of water so I began my treatment regimen using five cups of tea along with my nutrients (AN PH Perfect Connoisseur Parts A & B). Strain is Trainwreck.

Here is my plant at Day 0 of treatment using my tea. I had just scrubbed the tub clean and rinsed the roots using a sprayer, getting off as much as the slime as possible.

At this point, she had been growing for 9 weeks and I had far more growth topside than root growth in the tub. Admittedly, I should have picked up on this problem weeks ago, but I am always learning. And by this point, she had pretty much stalled out. She wasn't getting any bigger and she barely drank water or ate any nutrients for a couple of weeks. From the picture below, you can see why.

I continued my treatment regimen by adding a cup of tea to the reservoir every two days. Here are the roots at Day 2 (48 hours since treatment began). You can see that the roots are lightening up and there are new white roots coming in.

Day 4 of treatment. Another cup of tea added to the reservoir. I was amazed to see all the new growth coming in.

Day 6 of treatment. Mama mia! What an explosion of roots! As you can imagine, by this time growth on the topside was showing signs of recovery as well.

Day 8 below. Reservoir just changed the day previous and I began again with five gallons of RO water and 5 cups of tea. By this time, not only did I have a mass of white roots above the water line, but now I could see a growing mass of white below the surface.

And finally, here I am at Day 13 since treatment began. The root mass in the tub has exploded beyond I ever imagined it would. Tomorrow is another reservoir change and five cups of tea.

And I think I'm ready to flip to flower. Wish me luck!

And of course, a massive thanks goes to Heizenberg and everyone else who posted on this tread.

So when you do a Rez change do you add food if so at what strength? 1/2 strength?

 

[John1961]

So when you do a Rez change do you add food if so at what strength? 1/2 strength?

I change my reservoir weekly on Sundays, refilling it with five gallons of RO water, five cups of tea, and my nutrients as follows:

• Advanced Nutrients PH-Perfect Connoisseur 'Grow' series , Parts A & B, 40ml each
• Cyco Silica Supplement, 10ml (for increased stem strength)

I just PH-adjust as needed and dump this in my reservoir. The above puts my starting PPMs at about 850 at the beginning of the week. By the end of the week, my PPMs have dropped to around 300. But keep in mind, I adjust my nutrient strength weekly, depending on what week I'm in, whether I'm still in veg or have transitioned to flowering, etc. During the week, I just top off with plain RO water (this week she's been drinking about a gallon each day). I add a cup of tea on Tuesday morning, another on Thursday morning, and one final cup on Saturday morning. And then Sunday, I start all over with a fresh reservoir.

Here is my plant today, three full weeks after my tea regimen began and one week after flipping my light to flower. I'm staying on veg nutes for another week or two until the stretch has started to slow down and buds begin to form. Then I'll switch to Advanced Nutrients PH-Perfect Connoisseur 'Bloom' series, Parts A & B.

 

[Mr.jojodancer305]

I change my reservoir weekly on Sundays, refilling it with five gallons of RO water, five cups of tea, and my nutrients as follows:

• Advanced Nutrients PH-Perfect Connoisseur 'Grow' series , Parts A & B, 40ml each
• Cyco Silica Supplement, 10ml (for increased stem strength)

I just PH-adjust as needed and dump this in my reservoir. The above puts my starting PPMs at about 850 at the beginning of the week. By the end of the week, my PPMs have dropped to around 300. But keep in mind, I adjust my nutrient strength weekly, depending on what week I'm in, whether I'm still in veg or have transitioned to flowering, etc. During the week, I just top off with plain RO water (this week she's been drinking about a gallon each day). I add a cup of tea on Tuesday morning, another on Thursday morning, and one final cup on Saturday morning. And then Sunday, I start all over with a fresh reservoir.

Here is my plant today, three full weeks after my tea regimen began and one week after flipping my light to flower. I'm staying on veg nutes for another week or two until the stretch has started to slow down and buds begin to form. Then I'll switch to Advanced Nutrients PH-Perfect Connoisseur 'Bloom' series, Parts A & B.

Very informal, I just mix up a batch of tea

 

[Mr.jojodancer305]

 

[Mr.jojodancer305]

My room is a little messy but I'll post pictures after I clean my room mom

 

[nicksol86]

I change my reservoir weekly on Sundays, refilling it with five gallons of RO water, five cups of tea, and my nutrients as follows:

• Advanced Nutrients PH-Perfect Connoisseur 'Grow' series , Parts A & B, 40ml each
• Cyco Silica Supplement, 10ml (for increased stem strength)

I just PH-adjust as needed and dump this in my reservoir. The above puts my starting PPMs at about 850 at the beginning of the week. By the end of the week, my PPMs have dropped to around 300. But keep in mind, I adjust my nutrient strength weekly, depending on what week I'm in, whether I'm still in veg or have transitioned to flowering, etc. During the week, I just top off with plain RO water (this week she's been drinking about a gallon each day). I add a cup of tea on Tuesday morning, another on Thursday morning, and one final cup on Saturday morning. And then Sunday, I start all over with a fresh reservoir.

Here is my plant today, three full weeks after my tea regimen began and one week after flipping my light to flower. I'm staying on veg nutes for another week or two until the stretch has started to slow down and buds begin to form. Then I'll switch to Advanced Nutrients PH-Perfect Connoisseur 'Bloom' series, Parts A & B.

I thought the purpose of scrog is to train your plants to grow outward with the net? This looks like they just grew right up into the net for support maybe?

 

[John1961]

I was not trying for a scrog at all; the net is there to hold the plant upright. Without it, the net pot would just tip out of the lid of the reservoir.

On my next grow, I'm going to switch to "lid style" net pots made for 5-gallon cans. The extra wide lid will give the plant more stability but I'll still have to use a trellis net.

 

[kingtitan]

from the tons of hours I put into reading into this here and the original creator of this tea over at ICMAG in his very long battle for the cure which started in 2007. Seems like Great White, although its great in DWC it doesn't fight the slime off easily if its already in there, same goes with root rot that may have taken hold. The microbes in EWC and ancient soils is what is needed to destroy it completely then you can ease off the other ingredients and just use straight GW. If you start off with GW you should be problem free without any brewing (other than to save $$$ on GW).

If you don't have anything but EWC, a $5 bag of organic quality EWC will put a major dent or completely remove the brow slime on its own.