1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm

[Mohican]

I had trouble with my equipment in the grow area making it too hot. That is why I stopped growing indoors. I am going to build a grow lab out back when I get the screen room finished.

 

[Homie Da Clown]

I had trouble with my equipment in the grow area making it too hot. That is why I stopped growing indoors. I am going to build a grow lab out back when I get the screen room finished.

what you do, is get you a great run in this summer outside, and utilize some funds from that to build a cob led from like Rapid LED 300 watt diy...
Then make that indoor run, pay for another 300 watt DIY Led light... with 600 watts you can pull 2 out of a 5x5 tent/Area with 0 temp issues. Route your furnace intake to pull from grow room with carbon filter on Groom side, and take the Intake that came off intake vent upstairs and route that to groom with a hepa filter on groom side.. Get the antimicrobial/ mold resistant 4H Hepa filter... Now what ever temp the house is, the groom is.. I find 68 to 72 degrees to be perfect for them and Me. And I keep the RH at 45 to 50% thru out the house. You can run the fan on your furnace with out even turning the heat/Ac just to keep it circulating at night with windows open thru out the house. If it gets to hot then you flip on central Air, and it cools the house and the groom back down to under 72* This is the way you should run when not sealed/utilizing C02. Let the house thermostat control the room, and your house..

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

So I took the #1 out tonight so I could remove more of those bad leaves (weren’t too many thankfully), remove the bigger fan leaves, and try to open her up a bit. She is so unbelievably dense that I can’t get IN there to do any type of training. I mean virtually every stem has little buds all the way along the stem. Here’s what I mean:


And the main cola - wow:


This girl may be short, but I’m just amazed at the density. Granted she may not end up producing much, but it looks like what she is going to give me should be scrumptious anyway!

 

[Homie Da Clown]

So I took the #1 out tonight so I could remove more of those bad leaves (weren’t too many thankfully), remove the bigger fan leaves, and try to open her up a bit. She is so unbelievably dense that I can’t get IN there to do any type of training. I mean virtually every stem has little buds all the way along the stem. Here’s what I mean:
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And the main cola - wow:
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This girl may be short, but I’m just amazed at the density. Granted she may not end up producing much, but it looks like what she is going to give me should be scrumptious anyway!

result of stem rot around the crown... but you got her to pull thru somewhat

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Well, hubby figured out why my tent was so damned hot the last two days ... that frigging carbon filter is shot ... not the pre-filter, but the actual carbon part ... there was no air what-so-ever coming thru ... so we just hooked the ductline up to the exhaust fan and WHOOSH, plenty of air ... then stuck the duct right out the window. Now lets hope that does the trick!

 

[Homie Da Clown]

Well, hubby figured out why my tent was so damned hot the last two days ... that frigging carbon filter is shot ... not the pre-filter, but the actual carbon part ... there was no air what-so-ever coming thru ... so we just hooked the ductline up to the exhaust fan and WHOOSH, plenty of air ... then stuck the duct right out the window. Now lets hope that does the trick!

Well it will work but you have no smell stopper now.. I shot mine out the window one night and my neighbors were talking bout that for weeks! They thought it was a house down about 4 houses where some new rowdy looking bunch moved in.. I got my problem fixed and sweated it out for a few days.. Man it had me so paranoid! My cabin filter works great and I have had it over 2 years and have used it non stop... a 6" in a 12x12 room at that!
If no air was coming thru then something else is up..
You had it filter to fan to duct out of tent right? Or did you have fan to duct to outside tent to filter?

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Well it will work but you have no smell stopper now.. I shot mine out the window one night and my neighbors were talking bout that for weeks! They thought it was a house down about 4 houses where some new rowdy looking bunch moved in.. I got my problem fixed and sweated it out for a few days.. Man it had me so paranoid! My cabin filter works great and I have had it over 2 years and have used it non stop... a 6" in a 12x12 room at that!
If no air was coming thru then something else is up..
You had it filter to fan to duct out of tent right? Or did you have fan to duct to outside tent to filter?

Filter—>duct—>fan—>duct—> out of the tent

Hubby said he’ll run the duct thru the ceiling into the attic ... maybe his buddy can help us with that next weekend when he comes down (it will be part of the price he has to pay for me giving him some smoke at the end ... that and he’s gonna help me trim at chop time!)

 

[Homie Da Clown]

Filter—>duct—>fan—>duct—> out of the tent

Hubby said he’ll run the duct thru the ceiling into the attic ... maybe his buddy can help us with that next weekend when he comes down (it will be part of the price he has to pay for me giving him some smoke at the end ... that and he’s gonna help me trim at chop time!)

Well that should be fine. How big is your fan and filter?

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Vivosun 203 CFM 4" Inline Duct Fan with 4" carbon filter

 

[Homie Da Clown]

Vivosun 203 CFM 4" Inline Duct Fan with 4" carbon filter

I would get a bigger exhaust fan..440 cfm

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

I would get a bigger exhaust fan..440 cfm

Really? The tent is so small which is why I sent back the 6” fan and filter. Btw, tent twmps are down to 72 ... thank goodness!!!

 

[Homie Da Clown]

Really? The tent is so small which is why I sent back the 6” fan and filter. Btw, tent twmps are down to 72 ... thank goodness!!!

well after it pulls thru the prefilter and carbon filter, plus 4" ducting, it only has about 2/3 of its cfm left... And in this case, i would Tim the Toolman and go bigger... what is the baddest 4" fan you can find? Use that.. then you can move than 203 as a intake fan hooked to duct to window.. Now it will pull air from outside right into tent, then thru filter and back out of tent, and back out the window.. You can put that intake fan on a temp controller and it will come on and go off as the temp tells it too..... That is how you run a tent on auto....

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Hmmmm - sounds like a plan

 

[Homie Da Clown]

this temp controller...
https://www.amazon.com/Inkbird-Itc-308-Temperature-Controller-Thermostat/dp/B011296704/ref=pd_sbs_79_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B011296704&pd_rd_r=2YP0Q8JJE748K7AJ3FK5&pd_rd_w=cTJGb&pd_rd_wg=piUEB&psc=1&refRID=2YP0Q8JJE748K7AJ3FK5

This exhaust fan..
Which is 6"
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DXYMJ94/ref=sxr_rr_xsim_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3513574162&pd_rd_wg=Uowrj&pf_rd_r=JNB339RAX7591ZKGE5A6&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B01DXYMJ94&pd_rd_w=5QIwy&pf_rd_i=exhaust+fan&pd_rd_r=5795d800-19bb-429c-9256-70b55414e13c&ie=UTF8&qid=1523816207&sr=1&th=1

and this 4" to 6" adapter for filter to adapter, then 6 inch duct out tent and out window..
You can use your 4" duct with your intake, so your not buying double...

https://www.amazon.com/Duct-Reducer-Ductwork-Heating-Duct-Air-Duct-Ventilation-Fittings/dp/B00B79OAOK

 

[Homie Da Clown]

Dang think the site was down all day...

 

[McStrats]

well after it pulls thru the prefilter and carbon filter, plus 4" ducting, it only has about 2/3 of its cfm left... And in this case, i would Tim the Toolman and go bigger... what is the baddest 4" fan you can find? Use that.. then you can move than 203 as a intake fan hooked to duct to window.. Now it will pull air from outside right into tent, then thru filter and back out of tent, and back out the window.. You can put that intake fan on a temp controller and it will come on and go off as the temp tells it too..... That is how you run a tent on auto....

I'm a novice grower but I design odor control systems for many industries like plastic extrusion vents where the odors and VOC's are pretty high. Working out your carbon filtration is really just a matter of doing some math. Hopefully some of you will find this useful.

For carbon to work properly the smelly air needs a certain amount of "dwell time" in the carbon. I see a lot of people use fan systems that are too poweful and the air gets pulled too quickly through the carbon.

To work out your cfm needed for 10 air changes per hour you multiply your fan systems cfm x 60 and divide by the volume of the space. For example...if a 4" cent' fan has a cfm rating of 187cfm and your space is 6' x 8' x 8' then 187x60=11,200/384 = 29.1 ach.

So..a 4" fan that does 187 cfm running on full speed with an line carbon filter is pulling too fast and the air is not getting adequate "dwell time"...but that same fan running at 1/2 or 1/3 speed is going to be much more effective.

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

I'm a novice grower but I design odor control systems for many industries like plastic extrusion vents where the odors and VOC's are pretty high. Working out your carbon filtration is really just a matter of doing some math. Hopefully some of you will find this useful.

For carbon to work properly the smelly air needs a certain amount of "dwell time" in the carbon. I see a lot of people use fan systems that are too poweful and the air gets pulled too quickly through the carbon.

To work out your cfm needed for 10 air changes per hour you multiply your fan systems cfm x 60 and divide by the volume of the space. For example...if a 4" cent' fan has a cfm rating of 187cfm and your space is 6' x 8' x 8' then 187x60=11,200/384 = 29.1 ach.

So..a 4" fan that does 187 cfm running on full speed with an line carbon filter is pulling too fast and the air is not getting adequate "dwell time"...but that same fan running at 1/2 or 1/3 speed is going to be much more effective.

So, given my tent, fan, and filter specs (page 1) would my fan and filter combo do best on maybe 1/2 speed?

 

[Homie Da Clown]

I'm a novice grower but I design odor control systems for many industries like plastic extrusion vents where the odors and VOC's are pretty high. Working out your carbon filtration is really just a matter of doing some math. Hopefully some of you will find this useful.

For carbon to work properly the smelly air needs a certain amount of "dwell time" in the carbon. I see a lot of people use fan systems that are too poweful and the air gets pulled too quickly through the carbon.

To work out your cfm needed for 10 air changes per hour you multiply your fan systems cfm x 60 and divide by the volume of the space. For example...if a 4" cent' fan has a cfm rating of 187cfm and your space is 6' x 8' x 8' then 187x60=11,200/384 = 29.1 ach.

So..a 4" fan that does 187 cfm running on full speed with an line carbon filter is pulling too fast and the air is not getting adequate "dwell time"...but that same fan running at 1/2 or 1/3 speed is going to be much more effective.

Very true... But the fan is already used to remove rh and high temps from the lights.. Plus the snakey flex ducting...
Ive ran 3 diff fans on my carbon filter and never could tell an iota of difference... If however you were using these in a huge grow room that math would absolutely be invaluable.

 

[Homie Da Clown]

So, given my tent, fan, and filter specs (page 1) would my fan and filter combo do best on maybe 1/2 speed?

Its not the smell that is your problem.. Its the h8gh temps and the only thing that changes that is air flow... More power...
2 plants in a lil tent wont utilze that carbon filter enuf that 200 and 350 cfm is gonna make a difference.

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Im just happy that since I took out the non-working carbon filter temps are GREAT ... 66-68 at night and 70-72 during the day - and that’s helping keep those res temps down too!