Then this happened.Sad day guys. So out of the 3 Wedding Cakes that I put into flower 7 days ago, all 3 are already showing signs of being hermies. I have two more in the veg tent but they got off to a really slow start and don't look very healthy. Kind of sucks , I was really excited for these. View attachment 4134296 View attachment 4134299 View attachment 4134300 View attachment 4134301 View attachment 4134302
Wow! What are the chances?Same
I have one GG#4 going and it is showing female, its about ~3 weeks old, not very vigorous, but nothing out of the ordinary. Bit stretchy, not so branchy, I'll keep the forum posted and add some pics as things move along.I havent read any bad reports on the other S1's released like the Mimosa & Purple Punch. Havent seen much of anything on the others like the gg4, Dosido etc. Not looking too good so far on the Wedding Cake reports though.
I said pretty much the same a few pages back,.
What's the chances of getting 3 full blown males out of a pack of fems, much less 3 males out of 3 seeds popped of regs?
Pretty fucking unlucky, no?
Did this SAG fuck up his breeding program so bad, that he discovered the secret to make all males or MALS from female clones. Very suspicious, indeed.
I wonder if someone has been set up here?
Sounds like some good old fashioned FBI covert operations at work. (Conspiracy Mode) thinking
COINTELPRO part deus.
Wow! What are the chances?
Par for the course when it comes to gg4. Glad to hear shes indeed a she hahaBit stretchy, not so branchy
That appears 2 b a very clear and distinctive difference in growth between the 2 different light technologies.I wanna throw this out there cause some may be interested.im doing a cobs vs cmh thread on another forum.all these are the same exact clones in rdwc same buckets.they have been in this setup since the beginning.
I have 750 watts of cobs and 630 watts of cmh with the cobs dimmed down to 700 watts.
Here is a side by side comparison of the them.
HPS wasnt even close so I didn't even include it.the cobs are beating everything in my grow room right now
CMH on left cobs on right
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Them reflectors are on the way out the door.i wasnt gonna buy two new reflectors just for this last run.they are actually good ones just at the end of days.That appears 2 b a very clear and distinctive difference in growth between the 2 different light technologies.
So casually looking at the differences, I have a couple of questions;
What kind of ghetto ass reflector are you running those 315 cmh from and why don't you have them turned for proper light overlap?
The light is in the bulb for sure, but without a good reflector the light source will not "light" the garden evenly. So it's kind of a big deal.Them reflectors are on the way out the door.i wasnt gonna buy two new reflectors just for this last run.they are actually good ones just at the end of days.
Also its 4 ft across.i tries to turn them but the 4ft across suffers on the edges.i had to snap the reflectors to be d them up a little.
I moved them 10 different ways with a meter to get the max light spread.
Besides the light is in the bulb not the reflectors.
That's kind of the point of the comparison.it would take 960 watts of cmh to light the same area as the cobs using 700 watts.The light is in the bulb for sure, but without a good reflector the light source will not "light" the garden evenly. So it's kind of a big deal.
Plus 4 feet is past the useful light area that a 315 cmh can effectively illuminate.
I’ve only had one experience with a straight male from a fem and that was Barney’s farm cookies kush.... it can happen but it shouldn’t lolI have 3 WCs in their 2nd set of leaves so am sorry to hear about the issues. I have popped hundreds of fem beans and never had a straight male. Had the odd herm but never a straight male. Gu said when he was putting these out that they would be backed with the same guarantees that his usual reg beans are, so I am sure he will make it right if these are in fact all regs.
Yeah they are seeds after all but 3/3 males from fem beans doesnt happen. Those are clearly not fem beans.I’ve only had one experience with a straight male from a fem and that was Barney’s farm cookies kush.... it can happen but it shouldn’t lol
Totally agree I have the GG#4 and dos si dos has me nervous nowYeah they are seeds after all but 3/3 males from fem beans doesnt happen. Those are clearly not fem beans.
That's the point.the light intensity diminishes away from the edges of the hids,this is why I think cobs have the advantage cause it's more light sources at smaller wattage spread out.the 1st thing that's obvious (to me anyways) and tells why the right side is out growing the left is
1-the light coverage on the right side is more evenly dispersed and of course brighter by 70w/10%?
on the left going on what I see in the pic is the light is way dimmer, more than 70w difference.
and bakersfield has a valid point about the position of the reflector not being turned for optimum performance
it's not set up for any overlap. if your gonna run em like that I'd draw the spread tighter on the wings and focus
the light down more.
I mean personally if it comes down to having more gro area with mediocre light intensity or
smaller footprint with way better plants,
like on the right side I'd have to go for smaller footprint better plants which produced a better finished product.
of course there's factors that can't be determined by the pic, for one thing those batwings have the pebble finish reflector.
and they work but degrade quickly, after a year of use they need to be replaced
and those look as old as dirt lol.
another factor are the cmh bulbs, like how old are they etc etc.
Well that is certainly disappointing to hear, and unacceptable.Me myself, am disappointed. I had really high hopes for the WC. I admit I knew before buying them that there was a high chance of getting some hermies, but 3 males has me thinking something is fishy. I'm going to stay away from those s1 for now on. I feel bad asking Gu for seeds or a refund cause of all the great deals I had from GPS but If it was another seed bank I would definitely throw a shit fit.