whytewidow
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My two Mimosa S1's. I'm putting them in 2gal smartys and flipping tonight. Guess we will see.. the one grew into the leds. And burnt two tips of the leaves.
Greenpoint seeds!!
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Bakersfield
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On the way to work this morning, a false tsunami warning came in over the radio, later to be claimed an unexplained error in the system.
What's the chances of getting 3 full blown males out of a pack of fems, much less 3 males out of 3 seeds popped of regs?
Pretty fucking unlucky, no?
Did this SAG fuck up his breeding program so bad, that he discovered the secret to make all males or MALS from female clones. Very suspicious, indeed.
I wonder if someone has been set up here?
Sounds like some good old fashioned FBI covert operations at work. (Conspiracy Mode) thinking
COINTELPRO part deus.
Then this happened.
What's the chances of getting 3 full blown males out of a pack of fems, much less 3 males out of 3 seeds popped of regs?
Pretty fucking unlucky, no?
Did this SAG fuck up his breeding program so bad, that he discovered the secret to make all males or MALS from female clones. Very suspicious, indeed.
I wonder if someone has been set up here?
Sounds like some good old fashioned FBI covert operations at work. (Conspiracy Mode) thinking
COINTELPRO part deus.
Wow! What are the chances?
THT
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I have one GG#4 going and it is showing female, its about ~3 weeks old, not very vigorous, but nothing out of the ordinary. Bit stretchy, not so branchy, I'll keep the forum posted and add some pics as things move along.
the gnome
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I said pretty much the same a few pages back,
corporate espionage???
or, it's got ta be the russians lol
I'm thinking more of accams razor, "law of parsimony"
someones baked and double fried and seeds were mixed up
stoner fuggup
Heisengrow
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I wanna throw this out there cause some may be interested.im doing a cobs vs cmh thread on another forum.all these are the same exact clones in rdwc same buckets.they have been in this setup since the beginning.
I have 750 watts of cobs and 630 watts of cmh with the cobs dimmed down to 700 watts.
Here is a side by side comparison of the them.
HPS wasnt even close so I didn't even include it.the cobs are beating everything in my grow room right now
CMH on left cobs on right
CMH
Cobs
And 2000 watts of HP'S that's getting owned by the cmh and the cobs.
All these plants are 3 weeks old today
I have 750 watts of cobs and 630 watts of cmh with the cobs dimmed down to 700 watts.
Here is a side by side comparison of the them.
HPS wasnt even close so I didn't even include it.the cobs are beating everything in my grow room right now
CMH on left cobs on right
CMH
Cobs
And 2000 watts of HP'S that's getting owned by the cmh and the cobs.
All these plants are 3 weeks old today
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Goats22
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i am definitely reserving judgement until i see some more grow reports, but that is super concerning to see 3/3 males in a pack of fems. i was planning to run the topanga pack i grabbed next, but might hold onto it for another round to see how these s1 beans go for others.
just went 7/8 males so need more of a guarantee of girls next round.
just went 7/8 males so need more of a guarantee of girls next round.
Heisengrow
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I wouldnt toss the 3 wedding cake s1s.ive had feminized plants throw some weird ass shot in the beginning on the main branches.i just pulled them off and kept a look out and that was it.never saw them again.
Bakersfield
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That appears 2 b a very clear and distinctive difference in growth between the 2 different light technologies.
So casually looking at the differences, I have a couple of questions;
What kind of ghetto ass reflector are you running those 315 cmh from and why don't you have them turned for proper light overlap?
Heisengrow
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Them reflectors are on the way out the door.i wasnt gonna buy two new reflectors just for this last run.they are actually good ones just at the end of days.
Also its 4 ft across.i tries to turn them but the 4ft across suffers on the edges.i had to snap the reflectors to be d them up a little.
I moved them 10 different ways with a meter to get the max light spread.
Besides the light is in the bulb not the reflectors.
Bakersfield
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The light is in the bulb for sure, but without a good reflector the light source will not "light" the garden evenly. So it's kind of a big deal.
Plus 4 feet is past the useful light area that a 315 cmh can effectively illuminate.
Heisengrow
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That's kind of the point of the comparison.it would take 960 watts of cmh to light the same area as the cobs using 700 watts.
Even the growth directly below the cmh bulbs is not the same as the cobs.
I love CMH dont get me wrong and had some great runs with them in smaller scrogs but watt for watt after running cobs and cmh I favor the cobs.i was even gonna buy a 945 CMH for 1 more run to get another comparison.
Even in those single gravita style reflectors there is less reflector space than the ones I have.
I honestly dont think if I was using different reflectors it would have made that much a difference but I'll order a 945 after this rin and do another comparison.
Kronickeeper
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the gnome
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the 1st thing that's obvious (to me anyways) and tells why the right side is out growing the left is
1-the light coverage on the right side is more evenly dispersed and of course brighter by 70w/10%?
on the left going on what I see in the pic is the light is way dimmer, more than 70w difference.
and bakersfield has a valid point about the position of the reflector not being turned for optimum performance, it's not set up for any overlap.
I'd draw the spread tighter on the wings and focus the light intensity down more,
you'll get a smaller footprint, but better plants.
I mean, personally if it comes down to having more gro area with mediocre light intensity or
smaller footprint with way better plants,
like on the right side I'd have to go for smaller footprint better plants which produced a better finished product.
of course there's factors that can't be determined by the pic,
for one thing those batwings have a pebble finish on the reflector.
they'll work but degrade quickly, after a year of use they need to be replaced.
and those look older than dirt lol.
another factor are the cmh bulbs, like how old are they etc etc.
1-the light coverage on the right side is more evenly dispersed and of course brighter by 70w/10%?
on the left going on what I see in the pic is the light is way dimmer, more than 70w difference.
and bakersfield has a valid point about the position of the reflector not being turned for optimum performance, it's not set up for any overlap.
I'd draw the spread tighter on the wings and focus the light intensity down more,
you'll get a smaller footprint, but better plants.
I mean, personally if it comes down to having more gro area with mediocre light intensity or
smaller footprint with way better plants,
like on the right side I'd have to go for smaller footprint better plants which produced a better finished product.
of course there's factors that can't be determined by the pic,
for one thing those batwings have a pebble finish on the reflector.
they'll work but degrade quickly, after a year of use they need to be replaced.
and those look older than dirt lol.
another factor are the cmh bulbs, like how old are they etc etc.
klx
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Yeah they are seeds after all but 3/3 males from fem beans doesnt happen. Those are clearly not fem beans.
Kronickeeper
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Heisengrow
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That's the point.the light intensity diminishes away from the edges of the hids,this is why I think cobs have the advantage cause it's more light sources at smaller wattage spread out.
The entire purpose was for comparison in a 4x5.
If 2 315w cmh no matter what reflectors I used cant light a 4x5 than what's the point when the cobs obviously can.I turned them already and the overlap is good but on the 4 foot side the light is terrible on the edges.there good to about a 3x3 maybe 3x4 that's it.
But if it takes 3 315s to work in a 4x5 vs 700 watts of cobs than that's the end.
Gu~
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Well that is certainly disappointing to hear, and unacceptable.
These beans were produced with STS so I am unsure as to where the male chromosomes came from. But your results are valid, you are a good grower and know what you are doing. You’ve provided some killer shots of other GPS. No reason for anyone to doubt your findings.
The guarntee does stand, I am more than willing to give you your money back as I cannot replace your lost time.
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On the Something About Genetcs: Good guy, knowledgeable, and honest. Those are a few characteristics I look for in dealings. But since our meeting, he sold to LOGIC and undercut me twice. This last time at $50 for 10 seeds was the last straw.
I’ll give you enough rope to hang yourself, but that’s about it.
