5x5 LED lighting, need help.

[Cannabis de messorem]

Hey guys I need some assistance with lighting, I intend to buy a 5x5 Gorilla grow tent soon, it's going to be a snug fit in my designated growing room. I've been looking at 3 LED companies products.

• horticulturelightinggroup , com/products/hlg-550

• rapidled , com/5-x-5/ (One of these DIY kits)

• californialightworks , com/product/solarsystem-1100-uvb/

(Can't post links, so you have to fix the link if you look at them)
(Want quality over quantity)

My budget is like 1000$-1500$, but I can shelf out more if the Cali lights are worth it. I do like the Cali light because it has UVB supplement which is meant to be good in last few weeks of flower for bud quality.

I'm not sure if the other two, RL and HLG have any UVB spectrum in their lights? So if there are any technical people here that could check, I'd really appreciate that.

How is the coverage of all these lights? And is the PAR or PPF sufficient? I barely understand what they stand for, not much about the function.

Are these 3 lights efficient? Is 1 more efficient than the other? What would you guys recommend out of these 3 or any other company light?

Is this enough watt pull from the wall to have enough watt per square foot?

Thank you for any help/advice or replies you provide.

 

[nfhiggs]

Hey guys I need some assistance with lighting, I intend to buy a 5x5 Gorilla grow tent soon, it's going to be a snug fit in my designated growing room. I've been looking at 3 LED companies products.

• horticulturelightinggroup , com/products/hlg-550

• rapidled , com/5-x-5/ (One of these DIY kits)

• californialightworks , com/product/solarsystem-1100-uvb/

(Can't post links, so you have to fix the link if you look at them)
(Want quality over quantity)

My budget is like 1000$-1500$, but I can shelf out more if the Cali lights are worth it. I do like the Cali light because it has UVB supplement which is meant to be good in last few weeks of flower for bud quality.

I'm not sure if the other two, RL and HLG have any UVB spectrum in their lights? So if there are any technical people here that could check, I'd really appreciate that.

How is the coverage of all these lights? And is the PAR or PPF sufficient? I barely understand what they stand for, not much about the function.

Are these 3 lights efficient? Is 1 more efficient than the other? What would you guys recommend out of these 3 or any other company light?

Is this enough watt pull from the wall to have enough watt per square foot?

Thank you for any help/advice or replies you provide.

The HLG-550 is just not quite enough power, IMHO.
The RapidLED kit certainly gets you there in terms of power and gives you about 760 uMol average PPFD.
The CLW SolarSystem 1100 - Just not a fan of the whole "red/blue is all plants need" concept. Its based on flawed and/or misunderstood science. Can't recommend based on that alone.

Of the three, I would recommend the RapidLED kit. But let me throw in another option - have you considered LED Strips from Samsung? 24 of their 22" F series (or 12 of their 44") strips will deliver almost 1900 PPF for 800W. Cost to build is under $500.

Edit - 1900 PPF in a 5x5 is about 800 uMol PPFD average

 

[booms111]

Two of these kits would be good in 5x5 I feel if your looking for easy install

https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/all/products/320w-xl-qb-v2-led-kit

 

[Cannabis de messorem]

The HLG-550 is just not quite enough power, IMHO.
The RapidLED kit certainly gets you there in terms of power and gives you about 760 uMol average PPFD.
The CLW SolarSystem 1100 - Just not a fan of the whole "red/blue is all plants need" concept. Its based on flawed and/or misunderstood science. Can't recommend based on that alone.

Of the three, I would recommend the RapidLED kit. But let me throw in another option - have you considered LED Strips from Samsung? 24 of their 22" F series (or 12 of their 44") strips will deliver almost 1900 PPF for 800W. Cost to build is under $500.

Edit - 1900 PPF in a 5x5 is about 800 uMol PPFD average

Is that opinion for the HLG 550 V2 as well? It doesn't display that it's V2 in that link for some reason. Out of the 3 options on RL, which would you pick and why? And the extra suggestion, the Samsung panels, do you gotta DIY them up yourself or do they sell some sort of kit that you can just assemble?

And I assume higher PPF, PPFD is good.

Two of these kits would be good in 5x5 I feel if your looking for easy install

horticulturelightinggroup , com/collections/all/products/320w-xl-qb-v2-led-kit

I will look into these, thank you.

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What do you both think about UVB lighting? Do you guys have any spectrum with it?

 

[HydoDan]

I highly recommend www.timbergrowlights.com .. Great lights and customer service!

 

[nfhiggs]

Is that opinion for the HLG 550 V2 as well?

Yes, its a little more efficient, but not quite enough for a 5x5. IMO.

Out of the 3 options on RL, which would you pick and why?

I would probably go with the Luminus - the efficiency difference is miniscule, may as well get the one that costs less.

o you gotta DIY them up yourself or do they sell some sort of kit that you can just assemble?

Not many people selling Strip kits here in the US other than myself - I'm working on getting my website all set up. I know DIYLED is doing kits and finished setups in the UK. Not sure about anybody else.

 

[Cannabis de messorem]

Yes, its a little more efficient, but not quite enough for a 5x5. IMO.

I would probably go with the Luminus - the efficiency difference is miniscule, may as well get the one that costs less.

Not many people selling Strip kits here in the US other than myself - I'm working on getting my website all set up. I know DIYLED is doing kits and finished setups in the UK. Not sure about anybody else.

Thank you for your reply again, when do you think your site will be up and running?

 

[nfhiggs]

Thank you for your reply again, when do you think your site will be up and running?

Its actually online now, there just isn't a lot there yet just a couple of layouts. I'm working on getting more pages together. You can see it at www.omegalight.net

 

[nfhiggs]

Its actually online now, there just isn't a lot there yet just a couple of layouts. I'm working on getting more pages together. You can see it at www.omegalight.net

Here is a couple pics of the 2x4 light that I just finished, I'm going to start working on the product page for it:

Top side



Bottom side

 

[WeedSexWeightsShakes]

Here is a couple pics of the 2x4 light that I just finished, I'm going to start working on the product page for it:

Top side

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Bottom side

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You’re only a few hours from me.
If I need some lights I’ll remember that.

 

[Cannabis de messorem]

Its actually online now, there just isn't a lot there yet just a couple of layouts. I'm working on getting more pages together. You can see it at omegalight , net

I'll keep your site noted. See how it progresses even if I buy lights before. Those lights look alright as well.

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Maybe someone could throw me a pity like or two so I can post links.

 

[nfhiggs]

I'll keep your site noted. See how it progresses even if I buy lights before. Those lights look alright as well.

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Maybe someone could throw me a pity like or two so I can post links.

Thanks bud, I gave you some likes to get ya going. Here is the light setup and running in one of my 2x4 cabinet areas:

 

[ttystikk]

Thanks bud, I gave you some likes to get ya going. Here is the light setup and running in one of my 2x4 cabinet areas:

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Clean, I'd expect nothing less from you.

 

[diyled]

Thanks bud, I gave you some likes to get ya going. Here is the light setup and running in one of my 2x4 cabinet areas:

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Everything's coming together now. Site looks good.

One question, why the lrs driver's. Elg 240 is about the same cost. You on 120v?

 

[Cannabis de messorem]

Thanks bud, I gave you some likes to get ya going. Here is the light setup and running in one of my 2x4 cabinet areas:

Fits nicely. And thank you for the likes, got more then enough by now, not just from you haha.

 

[nfhiggs]

Everything's coming together now. Site looks good.

One question, why the lrs driver's. Elg 240 is about the same cost. You on 120v?

Yeah, the ELG's would be good option if they didn't derate them for 1120 VAC. No where near the same cost though - I get the LRS-150 for $17, the ELG-150 are over $30

 

[coreywebster]

Its actually online now, there just isn't a lot there yet just a couple of layouts. I'm working on getting more pages together. You can see it at www.omegalight.net

Do you have anyone doing a test grow or will you do that your self?

I'm not volunteering ( been too far away) Just curious.

P.S I know a test isn't necessary to prove a light grows weed. Its just what folks seem to do.

P.P.S Nice simple design! I like the lack of whistles

 

[nfhiggs]

Do you have anyone doing a test grow or will you do that your self?

I'm not volunteering ( been too far away) Just curious.

P.S I know a test isn't necessary to prove a light grows weed. Its just what folks seem to do.

P.P.S Nice simple design! I like the lack of whistles

I got a grow started under them now:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/new-run-black-gorilla.968602/

P.P.S Nice simple design! I like the lack of whistles

Yeah I'm a man of simple tastes.

 

[Cannabis de messorem]

@nfhiggs Not sure if I'm @'ing at you right.

But I've been in contact with RL customer service and I've been looking into having them make an addition to one of their 5x5 kits, by adding another strip of 4 lights, so there'd be 16x cobs with same dimensions between them all for coverage.

What do you think of that? Too much? And with that change, what would be the PAR and PPFD things be at? Umol? Or maybe I'm just being excessive and should go with the strips and save some good bills. Just not into the DIY thing.

 

[nfhiggs]

@nfhiggs Not sure if I'm @'ing at you right.

But I've been in contact with RL customer service and I've been looking into having them make an addition to one of their 5x5 kits, by adding another strip of 4 lights, so there'd be 16x cobs with same dimensions between them all for coverage.

What do you think of that? Too much? And with that change, what would be the PAR and PPFD things be at? Umol? Or maybe I'm just being excessive and should go with the strips and save some good bills. Just not into the DIY thing.

If its going to be running at an additional 300 watts, thats going to kick the PPFD to almost 1000 uMols/s/m2 - thats about as high as I would want to go. Its certainly not TOO much, but any more than that would be, IMO. Should make for a killer setup.