England tells Trump to go feck your self, and go home

Herb & Suds

Well-Known Member
I hear good things about Kristen Gillibrand.

What y'all have consistently and deliberately missed about Bernie Sanders is that it isn't about the man, it's about the policies he stands for.

Whoever is willing to carry that flag forward will find a lot of support.

Maybe so ...but I'll never vote for Bernie , maybe Liz Warren but never Bernie
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I hear good things about Kristen Gillibrand.

What y'all have consistently and deliberately missed about Bernie Sanders is that it isn't about the man, it's about the policies he stands for.

Whoever is willing to carry that flag forward will find a lot of support.

no. she jumped on the bandwagon against her own..she has poor decision making qualities..no soup for her!

+rep:clap: on the take on bernie..spot on!
 

travisw

Well-Known Member
I hear good things about Kristen Gillibrand.

What y'all have consistently and deliberately missed about Bernie Sanders is that it isn't about the man, it's about the policies he stands for.

Whoever is willing to carry that flag forward will find a lot of support.
I've followed his policies for years. I don't think his particular flavor of socialism is possible in America. I think if by some miracle, and if you're honest, you'll admit it would need to be the mother of all fucking miracles to actually enact a lot of his policies, the U.S. ends up looking like Italy or Greece rather than the Scandinavian bastions of homogeneous whiteness you're fantasizing about.

I think if you venture past the our revolution homepage, you'll find, these policies are far from agreed upon wins for the country.




BERNIE SANDERS’S ‘MEDICARE FOR ALL’ PLAN CAN’T WORK, AND HERE’S WHY
https://www.newsweek.com/case-against-single-payer-664511

Bernie Sanders Medicare-for-all plan is all wrong for America
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/09/20/bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all-plan-all-wrong-for-america-marc-siegel-column/679134001/

There's a big problem with Bernie Sanders's free college plan
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/14/11222482/bernie-sanders-free-college

Bernie Sanders’s job guarantee: Is it a boondoggle?
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanderss-job-guarantee-is-it-a-boondoggle/2018/05/06/29b28f7c-4fcf-11e8-84a0-458a1aa9ac0a_story.html?utm_term=.8f4827058665

Why Bernie Sanders' guaranteed job program isn't going to work
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-job-guarantee-20180425-story.html

Bernie Sanders' plan to raise the minimum wage has plenty of flaws
http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-plan-to-raise-the-minimum-wage-has-plenty-of-flaws-2015-8


 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I agree i didnt mean militarily though i guess those are the examples i gave, idk if we get out of this without full blown autocracy, or minimilly less free and less fair elections than we have.

I still feel it possible he "wins" again... i hope you are right, but im worried
it'll be okay, i promise and i never make a promise i can't keep.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I've followed his policies for years. I don't think his particular flavor of socialism is possible in America. I think if by some miracle, and if you're honest, you'll admit it would need to be the mother of all fucking miracles to actually enact a lot of his policies, the U.S. ends up looking like Italy or Greece rather than the Scandinavian bastions of homogeneous whiteness you're fantasizing about.

I think if you venture past the our revolution homepage, you'll find, these policies are far from agreed upon wins for the country.




BERNIE SANDERS’S ‘MEDICARE FOR ALL’ PLAN CAN’T WORK, AND HERE’S WHY
https://www.newsweek.com/case-against-single-payer-664511

Bernie Sanders Medicare-for-all plan is all wrong for America
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/09/20/bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all-plan-all-wrong-for-america-marc-siegel-column/679134001/

There's a big problem with Bernie Sanders's free college plan
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/14/11222482/bernie-sanders-free-college

Bernie Sanders’s job guarantee: Is it a boondoggle?
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanderss-job-guarantee-is-it-a-boondoggle/2018/05/06/29b28f7c-4fcf-11e8-84a0-458a1aa9ac0a_story.html?utm_term=.8f4827058665

Why Bernie Sanders' guaranteed job program isn't going to work
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-job-guarantee-20180425-story.html

Bernie Sanders' plan to raise the minimum wage has plenty of flaws
http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-plan-to-raise-the-minimum-wage-has-plenty-of-flaws-2015-8

 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
I hear good things about Kristen Gillibrand.

What y'all have consistently and deliberately missed about Bernie Sanders is that it isn't about the man, it's about the policies he stands for.

Whoever is willing to carry that flag forward will find a lot of support.
What does Bernie stand for ? He votes are rather confusing at times. He was against the crime bill before he voted for it. He was against the Iraq war before he voted for it. His list of accomplishment are rather wanting as well. Renaming two post office really does not amount to much.
He pretty much seems all talk...just like other politicians. Shame you can not see this because of his promise of free shit
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I've followed his policies for years. I don't think his particular flavor of socialism is possible in America. I think if by some miracle, and if you're honest, you'll admit it would need to be the mother of all fucking miracles to actually enact a lot of his policies, the U.S. ends up looking like Italy or Greece rather than the Scandinavian bastions of homogeneous whiteness you're fantasizing about.

I think if you venture past the our revolution homepage, you'll find, these policies are far from agreed upon wins for the country.




BERNIE SANDERS’S ‘MEDICARE FOR ALL’ PLAN CAN’T WORK, AND HERE’S WHY
https://www.newsweek.com/case-against-single-payer-664511

Bernie Sanders Medicare-for-all plan is all wrong for America
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/09/20/bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all-plan-all-wrong-for-america-marc-siegel-column/679134001/

There's a big problem with Bernie Sanders's free college plan
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/14/11222482/bernie-sanders-free-college

Bernie Sanders’s job guarantee: Is it a boondoggle?
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanderss-job-guarantee-is-it-a-boondoggle/2018/05/06/29b28f7c-4fcf-11e8-84a0-458a1aa9ac0a_story.html?utm_term=.8f4827058665

Why Bernie Sanders' guaranteed job program isn't going to work
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-job-guarantee-20180425-story.html

Bernie Sanders' plan to raise the minimum wage has plenty of flaws
http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-plan-to-raise-the-minimum-wage-has-plenty-of-flaws-2015-8

He's basically following what FDR did. Is that so unimaginable?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Why not?
There are 8 Senate seats held by Republicans and that are up for re-election in November.
All we need is 2 seats to flip the Senate.
I think Cruz is weak competing against O'Rourke, and Heller from Nevada also faces Titus.
Thursday on "Nevada Newsmakers," they cited Nevada voter registration numbers that favor Democrats

Republicans
Barrasso, John (R-WY)
Corker, Bob (R-TN)
Cruz, Ted (R-TX)
Fischer, Deb (R-NE)
Flake, Jeff (R-AZ)
Hatch, Orrin G. (R-UT)
Heller, Dean (R-NV)
Wicker, Roger F. (R-MS)

Independents
King, Angus S., Jr. (I-ME)
Sanders, Bernard (I-VT)

So, the Senate is up for grabs also

All we can do is pray
It's not impossible. To expect the Senate will flip is what I disagree with. Travis's point is why. Sure it's possible that Democrats will pick up two seats in the Senate but defending 26 D seats while trying to pick off 2 out of the 9 R seats up for election is simply not something we can expect. Not saying it cannot happen, just that if we don't flip the Senate, the odds were long on doing that and you don't win them all.. .

On the other hand, it's reasonable to expect the House to flip. The numbers look pretty good there. If Democrats don't win the house back then it's time for some hard retrospection.
 
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