You will always be a noob ,
1.5lbs/light in a 2x1000w in a 4x8ft Tent
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No you are being redicoulos ,
You want draw down in the leafs,
You can not pull numbers like this unless everything is perfectly run.
Perfectly ,
From the mother to the final product.
If it was easy anyone could do it,
growingforfun
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Pretty sure anyone who wanted to can in fact use systemics an flower em 2-3 weeks longer. Most people arnt trying to crop big numbers an fill out of state orders though. I may not get 6 a light, but I'm happy with what I do get. Your setup is good but it honestly looks a lot like other grows I've been around where people are doing what your doing. That looks like smaller than a 20 light an I've known people doing up to 100x 1kw bulbs in barns.
Your doing what you do well, but your not breaking new ground an not everyone has the same goals you do or wants buds that look like those.
Heisengrow
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Dude hes full of shit.6 lb plants in 5 gallon buckets of roots is complete bullshit.most people pulling those numbers are using 27 gallon totes in rdwc.not in no 5 gallon homer bucket.not no but hell no
growingforfun
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Looks like 9 plants in 5 gallon buckets to per light an hes saying 6 a light, or 6 lbs a plant outdoor. Doesn't really sound unrealistic to me... the guy I knew with a 100x 1kw grow was getting 8oz from a 3 gallon bucket of ffof pretty regularly. His claims dont seem outrageous to me. I've def known people doing stuff like this. I'm pretty sure if you follow his advice an copy his style you'll be able to at least get 3 a light no problem.
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growingforfun
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To be clear though, I dont think it's the orca inside a hood that's a big contributor. The orca walls are worthwhile tho for sure
Systemics are just bug and mold killers,
Lots of organic things to use if you have to, I never get bugs or mold so I don't have to worry about it,
To get those kinds of numbers everything mist be perfect , you can not have any kind of shock to the lla t at all the slows up the energy of the plants production .
The reason no roll it up members I know of gets those kinds da of numbers is they grow for width, not depth of the plant .
Most growers only get about 8 inch's of decent light penetration into the depth of the plant, a 1000 HPS will penetrate 3 ft deep into the plant. They never get full light use and penetration.
If you have a 1000 watt HPS you have three foot of cock, use it.
If you were fucking your girl she would be awful upset if you had 3 ft of cock and only let her have the tip of it wouldn't she?
Watch, Thom will get around 2 lbs this run, the orca will increase your light in a enclosed given space of around a 50 percent increase in light output.
(See YouTube video of demonstration) the walls' the floor , cover everything with it.
It has a higher reflective rating them German aluminum.
There are lots of other things that can be done to increase production, this is just one little trick that helps almost anyone reach the 2 lbs mark or gram a watt pretty easy .
Many many growers struggle to reach the gram a watt mark .
It will add normally around 20 to 25 percent increase in production.
Go invest a 150 bucks on a 100 ft roll, it will be the best money you ever spent.
The particular picture I showed you is of a plant called chocolate diesel, those plants were grown in rockwool cubes, Lucas formula 3 gallon screen pots drain to waste,
growingforfun
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Ya I could pretty much assume with the black piping what was going on.
I'm not arguing with any of it except the orca in the cool tube, and now that you say a 1kw can get in 3ft into the canopy.. I mean maybe if they are thin canopies.. he low 8 inches my brand new eye hortilux super hps cant grow shit. I do kinda want to do a modified scrog where I cover half the holes on rows every other row to let the light reach deeper down though. My run hits week 6 tomorrow an it's doing well, but under that 8 inch mark leads die from no light, very dense bud to bud grow. I'm taking it 9 weeks, maybe 10 so I can get the extra weight for ya lol an this girl goes a nice purple after 9 weeks.
Yes, you have to trim the side Branch's out so the fluff bud will not steal energy to the plant and allow deeper light penatration ,
Most of the bud never gets hard because the light gets blocked from the lowers,
By trimming the side Branch's out it forces the bud to develop near the terminal stems, Everytime you injure the top of the plant by pinching it it forces to plant to repair itself forcing nutrient , hormones along the terminal stems to the top of the ant feeding the bud sites near the terminal stems making them fat and allowing light deeper into the canopy ,
They is no need in growing side Branch's off of the terminal stems more then a few inchs, all it does is block light from the lowers and Rob energy from the bud development from the rest of the plant.
The bud development will become hard and large deep into the plant, the plant must be put in smaller and trained as the plant develops to form colas,
Every bulb you purchase as far as HPS will start losing lumens as soon as you plug it in, you are much better off buying cheap bulbs that have a maximum out put of lumens s from the very start as soon as you plug it in and change the bulbs every run, give the old bulbs to a friend who is not worried about production or whatever, start from zero is my motto, everything fresh and new from the start of the run.
It will also save you money and keep your output consistent every run.
Not every plant will form colas, these plants are not good for production , the immage I just posted is how you train plants to form colas, and how they are trimmed and trained to allow light penatration near the terminal stem,
The reason you want the bud formed here is so your buds that are forming will get the maximum amount of water, hormones and nutrients making the buds bigger,fater and higher quality ,
You trim the plant like this for five weeks , every week , in a 8 week strain,
Most growers over feed the plant,even experienced growers , especially nitrogen,
Nitrogen is toxic to the marijuana plant and should always be kept at a bare miniumum , anytime you stress the plant it slows growth so the plant can recover from the stress reducing production.
Feeding should be kept simple , the only stress the plant should really have is the pinching at the top and removal of the side Branch's to allow light penetration and divert bud development and the energy of the plant to the terminal stem,
The reason you want the bud formed here is so your buds that are forming will get the maximum amount of water, hormones and nutrients making the buds bigger,fater and higher quality ,
You trim the plant like this for five weeks , every week , in a 8 week strain,
Most growers over feed the plant,even experienced growers , especially nitrogen,
Nitrogen is toxic to the marijuana plant and should always be kept at a bare miniumum , anytime you stress the plant it slows growth so the plant can recover from the stress reducing production.
Feeding should be kept simple , the only stress the plant should really have is the pinching at the top and removal of the side Branch's to allow light penetration and divert bud development and the energy of the plant to the terminal stem,
Heisengrow
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A single ended hps will only give off a ceartian amount of growable light.dont matter how you do it the footprint is a 4x5 on those raptors.so many people lie about what there pulling in weight its funny any more to even listen to it.
Look at my grows man I dont need any advice from that dude trust me.
Heisengrow
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Keep your 1000 watt single ended hps,I got 1500 watts over 4x10's and killing it.your talking out your ass dude with them 5 gallon hempy buckets.airy ass fluffy buds and burnt up tops.
I would love to see your grows, it seems you have anyone locked from seeing them,
You should perhaps have a open mind about things and share ideas I stead of thinking you are always the best at everything ,
If I can learn something from you I would appreciate it, by think we are always the best it makes our ears and eyes closed to new ideas and opinions.
By coming off right the bat calling people liars ( I know there are lots of them) you lose a bit of credabity from the start,
If you are cling bull shit on 6 pounds a lamp you have ready admitted to not being able to obtain those kinds of numbers, maybe you should listen some,
Try the orca film, I promise it will increase your production, what do you have to lose by trying it? 150 dollars and a little bit of labor?
Call me a liar after you is it. If you use it and it works as I said it will then maybe you will be more willing to listen to someone.
Remember I am not cling you names, I am logical in my thoughts and opinions , I can show and Dr Thom will show you results,
Each time he has made a suggested change so far his production goes up, hos quality does to, right? Am I steering the man wrong or am I telling him what is correct? His production cost per gram is going down and his production goes up, every time , of you have something to add to his thread pleased so, we can all look at it together and debate the issue if you wish then try it out.
Your canopy is to thick and shallow for good production , your terminal stems are not trained and your bud size is pathetic , your conditions are not optimized either.
Heisengrow
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Lol your a clown man.bud size is strain dependant.thats ghost known for being dank not big.heres a different strain.
You talk out your ass with no pics of anything worth a shit
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Heisengrow
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Lol your a clown man.bud size is strain dependant.thats ghost known for being dank not big.heres a different strain.
You talk out your ass with no pics of anything worth a shit
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Foot print, your foot print is 6 inch's deep , mine is three foot deep, you are playing single demensional checkers and I play three demensional chess,
You have if you are using thousand what bulbs you have three foot of let tration, you are not using anywhere near the full use of your light, most of your light and plant energy is wasted growing garbage bud .
I am in the guild, you are not.
Light fluffy bud? Lol , funny . I am in Europe right now , I no longer need to grow. Why are you still growing if you are that good?
