Why pre germinate seeds?

[Kingrow1]

I agree it ain't foolproof but then again I'm not a fool lol like I said there's a million ways to germinate seeds and how you go about getting it done is completely up to the grower and what they prefer and feel most comfortable with.

Then say that not hype up only one single method, prehaps i wont have to add the facts to your half truths

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

So you think putting dry weed in a jar changes it, obviously never tried drying for as long as the cure then comparing...!

Yes theres a lot of hype i just say it as it is, well until you all came here trying to change things like you actually know the finer details...!

Whats a jar got to do with weed chemistry?

If I may answer. The jar keeps the flowers from drying out. Gives control to slow dry.

In a perfectly maintained environment like a humidor room is set up to keep tobacco but with the proper parameters to dry weed equally as slow as can be done with jars it would taste and smoke the same I agree.

 

[Kingrow1]

If I may answer. The jar keeps the flowers from drying out. Gives control to slow dry.

In a perfectly maintained environment like a humidor room is set up to keep tobacco but with the proper parameters to dry weed equally as slow as can be done with jars it would taste and smoke the same I agree.

So its not the jar its the humidity and if i find a spot in my house that equals the average humidor humidity do i need a glass jar?

To me the cure is still the dry, nothing changes magically because of putting it in a small jar that wouldnt happen if left in the open in similar conditions.

But we only get taught to jar for taste when kg1 can dry to the same taste in the same time no jar needed, how do i keep doing hyped methods without the hype part

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

So its not the jar its the humidity and if i find a spot in my house that equals the average humidor humidity do i need a glass jar?

To me the cure is still the dry, nothing changes magically because of putting it in a small jar that wouldnt happen if left in the open in similar conditions.

But we only get taught to jar for taste when kg1 can dry to the same taste in the same time no jar needed, how do i keep doing hyped methods without the hype part

No way an open area of your house or even a closet without controls would stay steady enough for best results. The weed would dry unevenly or just dry out too much.

I said like a humidor room.

Jars are perfect micro climates and the glass does not damage trichomes with some care taken. And lost trichs are easily captured.

And I can open the jars whatever duration and frequency is needed. There is definitely an art to it.

That’s not hype. I want the highest quality and little chance of mold.

 

[Beachwalker]

If concerned about chemical traces in coffee filters you can get unbleached ones. I have a pack of the round ones made by Melita that I use to filter my colloidal silver. I just use the basket from a coffee maker to hold and drain the liquid nicely. They have the cone ones too.

Howdy old med, I think paper towels are also bleached, so I'm not sure how much that would affect it?

 

[Kingrow1]

No way an open area of your house or even a closet without controls would stay steady enough for best results. The weed would dry unevenly or just dry out too much.

I said like a humidor room.

Jars are perfect micro climates and the glass does not damage trichomes with some care taken. And lost trichs are easily captured.

And I can open the jars whatever duration and frequency is needed. There is definitely an art to it.

That’s not hype. I want the highest quality and little chance of mold.

It can be done, you actually work to understand so can easily place a wet bud in a dry aired place in your house and come back after four months and tell me that bud aint dank as dank

My point was not to stop cure but not to make it the only way on this forum as many dont and get just as good bud finished product just after a long dry say four months as oppose to that in a jar.

And that brings us nicely back to what i was saying about the paper towel method and i actively encourage new growers to avoid this and the cure for the first few geows just becasue we always promote the kiss method over methods that can go titsup in your face overnight.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

It can be done, you actually work to understand so can easily place a wet bud in a dry aired place in your house and come back after four months and tell me that bud aint dank as dank

My point was not to stop cure but not to make it the only way on this forum as many dont and get just as good bud finished product just after a long dry say four months as oppose to that in a jar.

And that brings us nicely back to what i was saying about the paper towel method and i actively encourage new growers to avoid this and the cure for the first few geows just becasue we always promote the kiss method over methods that can go titsup in your face overnight.

I find lost buds around my house from time to time. They are always all dried out man.

And I think all the different choices of how to do things is great. We can all find ways to work that is comfortable to us.

The seed example is perfect. I am not comfortable waiting for a seed to sprout in soil. And I never feel right about how moist the cup is.

So I choose coffee filter method. Pros and cons to everything. What is wrong with that?

 

[churchhaze]

How did a thread about germinating seeds turn into a thread about curing in jars?

I've been growing for 20 years and germinate in paper towels, but I guess I'm new to this because someone else does it differently. The reason I germinate in paper towels is because I'm the type that will get impatient and dig up the seeds to see if something went wrong.

 

[churchhaze]

What does nothing, if not makes things worse, is putting your seeds in the dark. This is counter-intuitive. I usually put my sandwich bag with the seeds on a warm lamp and they tend to germinate in 1-2 days. Light promotes seed germination.

 

[Kingrow1]

How did a thread about germinating seeds turn into a thread about curing in jars?

Post #14

That and i get trolled a lot for spreading mis-information

 

[dubekoms]

Then say that not hype up only one single method, prehaps i wont have to add the facts to your half truths

Lol what? Are you confusing me with someone else? I never "hyped " anything I literally said I prefer the towel method but any other method works just as good.

 

[dubekoms]

I germinate in paper towels because I like to visibly see if the seeds are viable before planting them. I usually keep them in there just until they crack or have a little root stub poking out so they don't get big enough to get stuck in the paper towels.

You can also just plant straight into dirt, cubes, jiffy pellets anything honestly....they all work. It really depends on what the grower prefers. I wouldn't listen to anyone calling people "noobs" based on how they germinate, they are noobs themselves thinking it can only be done one way.

Where exactly are these half truths @Kingrow1 ?

 

[xtsho]

I think it gives the seedling a better start when starting in soil. That's because the root starts growing in the medium as soon as it sprouts. I've used the paper towel method and it works. I've just found that by the time you get a tap root in a paper towel a seed germinated in soil would already be breaking the surface and the root will already be growing properly. I understand the reasoning behind wanting to know if the seed was even viable for germinating in paper towels. There is nothing wrong with that. But I personally don't see the need. If the seed doesn't sprout in under ten days then it probably isn't going to. I am just constantly trying to simplify things. That's the way I am. If you pre-germinate your seeds there is nothing wrong with that. I just choose not to. The end goal is to grow a plant and there is more than one way to achieve that goal.

 

[dubekoms]

I think it gives the seedling a better start when starting in soil. That's because the root starts growing in the medium as soon as it sprouts. I've used the paper towel method and it works. I've just found that by the time you get a tap root in a paper towel a seed germinated in soil would already be breaking the surface and the root will already be growing properly. I understand the reasoning behind wanting to know if the seed was even viable for germinating in paper towels. There is nothing wrong with that. But I personally don't see the need. If the seed doesn't sprout in under ten days then it probably isn't going to. I am just constantly trying to simplify things. That's the way I am. If you pre-germinate your seeds there is nothing wrong with that. I just choose not to. The end goal is to grow a plant and there is more than one way to achieve that goal.

Well said, everyone does it differently so no use arguing about it.

 

[mauricem00]

When I first started growing I was under the impression that pre germinating in a paper towel was the way to go. 2 years later, the only seeds Ive had trouble growing were ones I pre germinated. I’ve had a damn near perfect (outside of my own neglegance) germ rate planting directly into medium or rockwoll cube. Besides breeding purposes and germinating large qauntities, what benefit if any comes from pre germinating? Seems like more of a risk than anything. Ie skin oil, proper mishandling.

I pregerminate because I get a higher success rate germinating in paper towels then I got going directly into soil. it may be strain dependent but with the strains I grow pregerminating them works best for me. I guess folks should try it both ways and see what works best for them.

 

[OldMedUser]

So you think putting dry weed in a jar changes it, obviously never tried drying for as long as the cure then comparing...!

I take from 2 - 4 weeks to get my buds dry enough to put in jars and they are still wet enough to take another 4 weeks of burping to get them dry enough to smoke. Dried pot doesn't cure even if you re-moisten it.

Fresh trimmed.



Same buds well cured.



This is what you said which basically states you don't think curing pot does anything.

Its like when peeps think weed needs to be cured or it taste crap but some good growers point out the real truth.

 

[OldMedUser]

Howdy old med, I think paper towels are also bleached, so I'm not sure how much that would affect it?

There really isn't enough chemical residue left in filters or paper towels to harm seeds so I really wouldn't worry about it. Most paper is bleached with peroxide now to prevent all the organochloride pollution anyways.

 

[OldMedUser]

Where exactly are these half truths @Kingrow1 ?

He pulls this kind of crap in most threads he posts in. Already messed this thread up.

 

[OldMedUser]

Light promotes seed germination.

I think you mean, Heat promotes seed germination. Good to have lights over the pots to make sure that seedling gets light the second it breaks the surface tho. CFLs a couple inches over the soil keeps that warm too.

 

[RetiredGuerilla]

At $15 per seed I have developed a fool proof method. I start in 20 oz solo cups with one seed per cup filled to the rim with high grade potting mix. I have a white styrofoam cup inverted and placed over the solo cup that serves as insulation and a humidity dome. I plant the seed in solo cup 1/4 inch deep and give it a bit more water to settle soil around seed. The solo cup with styrofoam cup on top gets put on a reptile heating mat. After 48 hours I remove the white styrofoam cup insulating humidity dome. Day 3 or 4 my seed is breaking ground and immediately either goes 2 inches under 6500k T-5 or into direct sunlight. I like my babies to eat and drink ASAP especially at $15 each. Moisture and warmth are the keys to getting a high germination rate.