Stagnant Wages since 1974

[SlappyD]

Increasing wages for unskilled workers just drives employers to automation. Recently, they increased minimum wage in Canada to $15/hour. Now all the fast food places have digital screens to place your order and grocery stores have more self checkout lines than actual tellers. Those machines don't need to be trained, don't need benefits, workers compensation, employment insurance, sick days or pay. Increasing minimum wage can decrease the amount of minimum wage jobs. Good luck to your kids getting an after school job, or even getting one if they don't have good enough grades to be accepted into post secondary education after they finish highschool.

This is where socialism can help. If you had more worker co-ops in these types of industries you could have a more balanced approach. When workers control or contribute to decision making of the entire business you would see a less profit motivated result. Workers won't vote to get rid of their own jobs.

Germany is leading the way with these types of industries and is prospering. Another great economist to watch/read on these matters is Richard D Wolff. One of the leading Marxists economists in the world.

 

[UncleBuck]

Sorry asshole, it's not until October 1, but automation is already here.

There’s as much automation in low wage areas as there is in higher wage areas

Sorry you’re so upset

 

[UncleBuck]

Ha ha fuck face, working in the oilfields over 16 years, I don't have money problems.

What is your point?

Higher wages are not driving automation

You are not bright

 

[Farmer.J]

Higher wages are not driving automation

You are not bright

Yeah, higher wages would have no effect on business decisions that affect automation.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/gregoryferenstein/2017/08/27/new-study-suggests-minimum-wage-leads-to-automation-of-low-skill-workers/amp/

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Higher wages are not driving automation

You are not bright

Automation keeps wages down and drives unemployment.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yeah, higher wages would have no effect on business decisions that affect automation.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/gregoryferenstein/2017/08/27/new-study-suggests-minimum-wage-leads-to-automation-of-low-skill-workers/amp/

You just cited a publication which says that climate change is real and manmade.

Is climate change real and manmade?

 

[Farmer.J]

You just cited a publication which says that climate change is real and manmade.

Is climate change real and manmade?

Of course not. The Earth goes through cycles. More co2 in the atmosphere when dinosaurs were here than there is now, everything thrived and grew larger than plants and animals do now.

 

[UncleBuck]

Automation keeps wages down and drives unemployment.

Automation saves companies money no matter how poorly paid the workers are. And it isn’t going away so you need to adapt rather than cry

 

[UncleBuck]

Of course not.

So you’re not willing to accept the conclusions of the source you just cited

Ok that’s smart

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Automation saves companies money no matter how poorly paid the workers are. And it isn’t going away so you need to adapt rather than cry

Why do you think I’m crying about it? It has been happening more and more all my life. And it never affected my salary as a sales manager or as a grower.

Do you do anything but troll? You say the dumbest things.

 

[Farmer.J]

Automation saves companies money no matter how poorly paid the workers are. And it isn’t going away so you need to adapt rather than cry

That is exactly my point, for business, automation is cheaper than adding higher minimum wages to payroll. A reason why a business might use that option.

So you’re not willing to accept the conclusions of the source you just cited

Ok that’s smart

No, you are just a dumb liberal, who thinks anyone who doesn't agree with your stupid theories, is a NAZI.
Please be civil Bucky.

 

[UncleBuck]

Why do you think I’m crying about it? It has been happening more and more all my life. And it never affected my salary as a sales manager or as a grower.

Do you do anything but troll? You say the dumbest things.

You cry about everything so why would this be different?

 

[UncleBuck]

That is exactly my point, for business, automation is cheaper than adding higher minimum wages to payroll. A reason why a business might use that option.


No, you are just a dumb liberal, who thinks anyone who doesn't agree with your stupid theories, is a NAZI.
Please be civil Bucky.

Automation is cheaper than lower wages too so you have no point

Didn’t you praise the Nazis yesterday?

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

You cry about everything so why would this be different?

It’s you crying about everything. I don’t focus on the negatives like you.

Don’t worry your precious regulations and honest democrats will fix everything for you.

 

[UncleBuck]

It’s you crying about everything. I don’t focus on the negatives like you.

Don’t worry your precious regulations and honest democrats will fix everything for you.

If it’s me that cries about everything then why are you known as an endless whiner?

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Automation is cheaper than lower wages too so you have no point

Didn’t you praise the Nazis yesterday?

Bet you look way more Nazi than Jewish.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

If it’s me that cries about everything then why are you known as an endless whiner?

Only by you and a couple of spineless followers with no other friends here.

Poor buck and his shrinking fraternity.

But you are known as a hateful racist troll by many many people.

And now a fake Jew.

 

[Herb & Suds]

Only by you and a couple of spineless followers with no other friends here.

Poor buck and his shrinking fraternity.

But you are known as a hateful racist troll by many many people.

And now a fake Jew.

Hardly spineless you little cry baby

 

[UncleBuck]

Bet you look way more Nazi than Jewish.

That is in conflict with previous statements you’ve made decrying me as too liberal. Also you are more liberal than me. And also, you’ve never claimed to be liberal

These are all things that you claim are simultaneously true

 

[UncleBuck]

Only by you and a couple of spineless followers with no other friends here.

Poor buck and his shrinking fraternity.

But you are known as a hateful racist troll by many many people.

And now a fake Jew.

I think it’s about a dozen people or so calling you a whiner

Haven’t heard that about me from anyone but you