Screw you Trump!

Tangerine_

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It's not easy making money in the commodities markets. You can't be stupid and do well but you don't have to be smart either. Same goes with industries that don't require much knowledge like trucking. Those trades are important and no disrespect to people who are working in them. Still, the US economy isn't going to grow through expanding trucking, corn and soybean production. Or more fracking, for that matter.
You're joking right?
 

Fogdog

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You're joking right?
I meant to say (and still do) is: its not easy to make money in industries that don't require much education like trucking. You can't be stupid and be a trucker but you don't have to be really smart. It's still an important industry but the growth of the US economy isn't going to happen in trucking.

Is there something wrong with that statement? Not trying to pick a fight here, just understand.
 

Stink Bug

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Then how would you get anything you use? You wouldn't even have the house you live in if the lumber or concrete wasn't brought by a truck
That's right. Just look around you, everything you see was on a truck at one time or another. Truck drivers could bring this country to its knees in a matter of days if they all just turned the key to the left. Farmers could do the same thing.
I'm sure there will be some stupid responses like what about the trees. The intelligent among us understands what I mean.
 
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Tangerine_

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From my perspective, I can tell you with 100% confidence, it takes an immense amount of knowledge and skill to operate a successful trucking business. This is especially true for those in AG and transpo.

To the outside world it may seem like its easy and comparable to unskilled labor (just hop in the seat and go) but that couldn't farther from the truth.
 
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Stink Bug

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From my perspective, I can tell you with 100% confidence, it takes an immense amount of knowledge and skill to operate a successful trucking business. This is especially true for those in AG and transpo.

To outside world it may seem like its easy and comparable to unskilled labor (just hop in the seat and go) but that couldn't farther from the truth.
Bingo! Not to mention the long hours in both fields that would kick most folks asses in a matter of days.

Farming is also something that is not just blindly done by the unskilled. The fact is most farm families have many members that are highly educated with advanced degrees. And they are not crying about there educational debt after spending 6 years in school on a worthless degree.
 

Stink Bug

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I'll disagree, people need to feel good about themselves and having/owning nice quality jewelry makes people feel good
The left thinks those that works hard and has nice things should be ashamed of themselves. They want everyone to be equally poor.
 

Stink Bug

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The right thinks being born with money means they earned it
How do you like my stereotyping , comparatively?
I hate to break this to you. But the majority of the right was not born into money. They earned it with hard works and a responsible life style. And there are elites that were born into money on both sides. I think your stereotyping is bunk.
 

Tangerine_

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Its definitely not for everyone. Nowadays drivers are expected to not only have a class 1 (with specialty endorsements) but also heavy equip maintenance/mechanics. Most of this takes a minimum of 3yrs trade school. Or, one yr less than it took me to earn a BSN. And this is just for self-drivers.
What it takes to actually run a successful safe transpo business goes far beyond that.
 

Herb & Suds

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I hate to break this to you. But the majority of the right was not born into money. They earned it with hard works and a responsible life style. And there are elites that were born into money on both sides. I think your stereotyping is bunk.
Oh I was a Republican for over fifty years and then in 2016 they lost their minds and nominated a Con - Artist internet Troll to be leader of the free world
My friends are still all country club Republicans born with silver spoons for the most part
So I know a little
 

Stink Bug

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it's also bigly subsidized by tthe gov't. so you're in favor of Socialism as a Trumpie?
Many of those subsidies were brought on by bad trade agreements made by many administrations. It didn't just happen under Trump. It has nothing to do with socialism.
 

Fogdog

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From my perspective, I can tell you with 100% confidence, it takes an immense amount of knowledge and skill to operate a successful trucking business. This is especially true for those in AG and transpo.

To outside world it may seem like its easy and comparable to unskilled labor (just hop in the seat and go) but that couldn't farther from the truth.
No disagreement with you that running any successful business requires an large amount of skill and knowledge because if you don't have them as well as the ability to work long hours, you won't make it. You name it: printing, transportation, farming, nail factories, pumping oil. They all require smart business management but do they require the same from its workers?

Do you find it dismissive of me to say that the growth in this country isn't going to come from these industries?
 

Stink Bug

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Its definitely not for everyone however. Nowadays drivers are expected to not only have a class 1 (with specialty endorsements) but also heavy equip maintenance/mechanics. Most of this takes a minimum of 3yrs trade school. Or, one yr less than it took me to earn a BSN. And this is just for self-drivers.
What it takes to actually run a successful safe transpo business go far beyond that.
The paperwork and regulations are definitely a challenge.Not to mention the mechanical knowledge needed you mentioned.
 
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