70% of Americans now support Medicare-for-all
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londonfog
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How would a racist restaurant owner peacefully and consensual remove a hungry patron (who only wants to buy something to eat) from his restaurant that is open to the public.
UncleBuck
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INF Flux
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"Denmark" So no, you lose. Back to healthcare. Please provide examples of countries that have adopted a universal healthcare plan, hated it, and reverted back to free market profit driven exploitation of the sick. I'll wait............
travisw
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lol.
The first 41 didn't have drones to use.
I guess saying he droned more than Bush Jr. and Clinton didn't have the same ring to it.
Keep your chin up. Your boy is setting a competitive pace.
Trump is ordering airstrikes at 5 times the pace Obama did
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is-ordering-airstrikes-at-5-times-the-pace-obama-did-2017-4
Rob Roy
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I'd agree with you if you were right, but you're wrong.
First of all the efficacy of something from one persons point of view is not the sole determinant of whether or not that "something works". For instance, I could force you into slavery, and take the product of your labor and spend it as I like, while you await my orders.
That might work for me, but presumably it wouldn't work for you. How is a mandated "healthcare" policy where others make your choices for you under threat of harm for disobedience any different than the scenario I described above?
I'll see your Denmark and raise you a Soviet Union. You want another card?
Rob Roy
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Did I have a choice of NOT paying if I kept my kids home or sent them someplace else?
Let's see how that works in "reality" shall we?
I go to a laundromat, (not yours) and pay to use their facility. Everybody's happy they got my money, I got clean clothes.
I'm traveling home and a strange man with a gun and a pair of pilfered underwear over his face (too cheap to buy a proper robber's mask) accosts me and says, "hey Rob Roy, gimme yur money"
RR - I don't understand, are you robbing me?
LF - No, it's not like that, you see, I own a laundromat and you owe me some money now, pay up...grrrr
RR - (incredulous) I'm sure you must be mistaken, I didn't use YOUR laundromat, I went to another one
LF- Doesn't matter, pay ME now !
RR - "HEY look a squirrel ! " (sound of running feet)
LF - hUH, WHA...A squirrel !!??? Doh !!! ….awww shit... he got away
UncleBuck
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Are you asking what the difference is between slavery and socialized medicine?I'd agree with you if you were right, but you're wrong.
First of all the efficacy of something from one persons point of view is not the sole determinant of whether or not that "something works". For instance, I could force you into slavery, and take the product of your labor and spend it as I like, while you await my orders.
That might work for me, but presumably it wouldn't work for you. How is a mandated "healthcare" policy where others make your choices for you under threat of harm for disobedience any different than the scenario I described above?
I'll see your Denmark and raise you a Soviet Union. You want another card?
Rob Roy
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No, I'm pointing out that a person who has others make their choices for them, upon pain of harm for disobedience, is already a slave, slave.
I have nothing against individual people combining their justly acquired resources to create economies of scale when purchasing services.
I have everything against, some people making those choices for other individuals without the others consent.
You have a hard time realizing that you are a thug who promotes thuggish, thuggery, eh little Thug Boat ?