Big question: Why are outdoor flowers devalued?

[ltecato]

I started growing in Texas when Reagan was still president. No way in hell was I going to try to grow anything outdoors where a neighbor could see it. So I've stuck to indoor growing until a couple months ago when I moved to a place where it was possible and legal to grow outside in LA County.

By now I've harvested and tested some of my outdoor bud, and damned if I can tell much of a difference between it and the stuff I grew indoors, quality-wise. And being of an older generation, I recall the days of my youth smoking reefer that was not only grown outside, but also full of seeds, and getting pretty damn buzzed. So I wonder, why the prejudice against outdoor-grown cannabis? Why do some dispensaries automatically knock 40-50% or more off the price of outdoor or even greenhouse-grown flowers?

 

[projectinfo]

Alot of people can tell the difference , and really it comes down to marketing . The consumers want indoor.

If they do their research and find you and its really that much better then that niche will continue to buy from you .

people want indoor more often so they charge more for it.

 

[ltecato]

Alot of people can tell the difference , and really it comes down to marketing . The consumers want indoor.

If they do their research and find you and its really that much better then that niche will continue to buy from you .

people want indoor more often so they charge more for it.

It baffles my mind because I can remember as a teenager smoking outdoor-grown weed that was supposed to be from Colombia or Oaxaca, full of seeds, and it was as good or better than any indoor sinsemilla I've bought from a dispensary in the past few years. Or maybe it just seemed that way to my teenage brain cells. This was back when $30 an ounce was "pricey." And we called 'em "lids." Man, we were a bunch of goobers!

 

[Dmannn]

Indoor/hydro is chemically altered garbage. Don't get me started on the "dispensary" pot. It's dirty and full of bad chemicals. Smells and tastes like perfumed garbage.

Outdoor organic pot isn't considered "clean" as there are living organisms on the plant. Dust, bugs/damage, plant spores ect. bring the price down.

I refuse to buy indoor/hydro pot. It's a strain on our utility systems and bad for your body.

 

[waterproof808]

Indoor costs 10x more to produce which gets reflected in the wholesale price.

 

[Miyagismokes]

Long story short, there's the impression that indoor implies using a "perfect" environment.
Once upon a time, people though UV degraded trichs (and it does) but didn't know that UV is useful to resin production, too, but that's pretty much out of the bag now.
But because you can't control potentially critical factors outdoors, never mind the association of outdoor and brick (at least where I used to live), the thought is no matter how good you did, the weed could be better indoor.
Indoor is given the benefit of the doubt on quality, basically.

 

[blowincherrypie]

I always luvd when the Cali outdoor made its way to my neck of the woods.. Price was always lower and it has a distinct taste/smell that sends me straight back to childhood..

 

[redeyedfrog]

I've always grown outdoors and always will, there is a nuance a aroma that I can't replicate indoors, but each to their own.
I get buyers that pay top dollar for my outdoor and are very happy do so and comment on tastes and smell but it just could be i cure at least 6 weeks before I put it on offer and the rest just dry and bag their hydro with no cure, not sure but I'm assuming the cure really does the competition in.

 

[mr. childs]

there is a nuance a aroma that I can't replicate indoors

all the different types of meals that are added outdoors, the guanos, the constant breaking down of castings & bacterias make it much better, but that is only my opinion.

i cant 100% replicate the type of flavor & kind of high indoors that i can produce outside. maybe its the gear i pick to run for each spot. my indoor is scary strong & pretty, but my outdoor is beat up sometimes due to the elements, and i dont machine trim at all or tumble for vogue magazine photos, but the stone harkens back to the days of old. i think outdoor has more character. its a shame its devalued with the new generation.

 

[ganga gurl420]

Lol if you put this same thread in the indoor section you would read time and again how indoor is so superior....lmao

Personally I don't think so...I prefer outdoor...... but I feel sometimes that indoor is safer.
The longer I read on all the crap people are spraying on their plants outdoors kinda scares the shit out of me. I know indoors sprays too but it has to be less...

 

[Lucky Luke]

Indoor can be a perfect environment. harvested at the right moment. Outdoor is never going to be the perfect environment and harvest is normally weather dependant. Outdoor has more dirt, dust, bugs and other contaminates in the flowers. Indoor shouldn't have any. Indoor is more expensive to produce. Outdoor can have more pesticides and mould preventive sprayed on it. (not saying all do)
Can someone tell by looking at a bud if its indoor or out door? Probably not. Can someone state that one is more potent than the other? Probably not. Can someone taste the difference? Probably not, esp so with organic soil indoor.

Price difference is probably due to the fact that the indoor grower has less room to move and still make a profit where as the outdoor growers can and do drop their pants on price. Doesn't help that the outdoor growers all harvest around the same time frame creating allot of product on the market in a relative short time frame.

"Hydro", (Its Hydro man..) was a great marketing ploy to charge more money. Still works today.

 

[ky farmer]

Outdoor all the way for me.I have never had indoor as good as my outdoor,and I have had pot from most every state that was growen both ways.

 

[ganga gurl420]

Indoor can be a perfect environment. harvested at the right moment. Outdoor is never going to be the perfect environment and harvest is normally weather dependant. Outdoor has more dirt, dust, bugs and other contaminates in the flowers. Indoor shouldn't have any. Indoor is more expensive to produce. Outdoor can have more pesticides and mould preventive sprayed on it. (not saying all do)
Can someone tell by looking at a bud if its indoor or out door? Probably not. Can someone state that one is more potent than the other? Probably not. Can someone taste the difference? Probably not, esp so with organic soil indoor.

Price difference is probably due to the fact that the indoor grower has less room to move and still make a profit where as the outdoor growers can and do drop their pants on price. Doesn't help that the outdoor growers all harvest around the same time frame creating allot of product on the market in a relative short time frame.

"Hydro", (Its Hydro man..) was a great marketing ploy to charge more money. Still works today.

Agreed!

 

[DG1959]

With the price of electricity and low price of weed a guy couldn't even break even in Oregon if growing indoors.

 

[Chief_Broom]

I concur with everyone about outdoor getting a bad rap. It comes down to marketing. People like to think they are buying something special and out of the ordinary. The notion that something that has grown from a seed that was simply stuck in the ground doesn’t sound flashy. Now promote the same item but claim it was hand grown in a hermeticly sealed facility, via a soil-less hydroponic grow with added levels of co2 and man that shit will fly off the shelves.

Lots of bro-science in the weed biz

 

[Dmannn]

I always luvd when the Cali outdoor made its way to my neck of the woods.. Price was always lower and it has a distinct taste/smell that sends me straight back to childhood..

We called it the hums. (Humboldt pot). Would make it to us Oct/Nov in time for the holidays.

 

[RIBrian]

As a noob doing both indoors is SO SO much easier lol

 

[Herb & Suds]

Typically it never finishes in time , in a majority of the states
So you get lots of clear trich weed

 

[Miyagismokes]

As a noob doing both indoors is SO SO much easier lol

....?
Really?

 

[slow drawl]

With the price of electricity and low price of weed a guy couldn't even break even in Oregon if growing indoors.

Man I'll tell ya, everything changed when Or when rec. Market got flooded with big $ growers moving in for the profit, and the med growers got fucked. I regularly grow plants in my GH that rival indoor bud.
First year OR went legal I had a real healthy GH grow. Ended up with a couple extra lbs of clean organic bud, which I had tested to be safe and legal for sale. Went to a local dispensary and dropped off some samples and clearly stated that it was GH weed. Got a call that they were interested, while setting in the waiting area I noticed they had strains and prices listed on a reader board. Every strain above 25% was $400 oz...18$ gr. Had a couple listed budget OD grown strains for half that price. They were giving $2400 lb for indoor top shelf. I'm not a greedy guy, just thought I'd recoup some to possibly upgrade next season. Told em I'd like $1800 he countered with 1500, I said I'll go elsewhere. Long story short, they gave me what I wanted so I should have been done with it.
Looked online at their menu, there was mine listed $400oz no mention of GH. No one could tell the difference, they sold it in 5 days. Called me for more, I politely stated my opinion and said I'll never set foot in your place again.
Shouldn't be the business it has become, I give most of mine away to those who need and appreciate it...SD