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Steve7878

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Thanks for the link grabbed a couple just Incase, did you add a side panel?

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Sorry it took soo long to reply, I didn't see your question until now. No I didn't add a side panel, I had 2 extra unused slots on my panel so they just ran a direct line to my grow room adding two extra lines at 20 amps each line so 40 extra amps which gives me a total of 80 amps in the grow room. That will be more than enough for expanding.

I just noticed you said you completely defoliated your gdp. What do you mean? Did you remove all the fan leaves? I hope not because you want some leaves for insurance and the plant will use the nutrients from them during flowering. The bottom 1/3 leaves would be a safe amount to defoliate, I wouldnt do more than that.
 

Steve7878

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View attachment 4211717 View attachment 4211718 View attachment 4211720 View attachment 4211721 View attachment 4211723 View attachment 4211725 View attachment 4211726 So my clones are rooting well some of them did, still waiting on others, forgot to take pics of the roots while planting them, but I’m still curious why the tops of most of the clones look this way? Any input out there? Maybe from a dollar feed they got and the light? But over all the veg tent is doing well , topped the hell out of the gdp , I’m almost on day 12. Of flower and the budsites are small but showing everywhere , overall I’m happy but still want to know what the hell im doing wrong with my clones, but this is my first go around cloning just happy to see roots, guess we’ll see what happens within the next few days, one of the blue dream clones looks very sad and looks like it’s going to die , but o well you grow and learn , like always here are some pics!
That yellowing looks like your giving them too many bloom nutes, potash and potassium for sure, I would back off on those nutes for sure. I had the same problem with my outdoor plants and when I lowered the bloom nutes it got better.
 

WayFarGone

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I'm using an aerocloner, so my situation is different. I normally use only distilled water when cloning, and if the tops of the clones get a little yellow I give them a weak foliar feeding of fish emulsion (1/8 tsp) Earth Juice Microblast (1/8 tsp) and superthrive (1 drop) all measurements are per quart of water. Sometimes it helps, sometimes not - I'd guess about 50% of the time. With the aerocloner if they get really yellow on top they're done for. So far every time it's happened it's been my fault, taking cuttings that are too big. To repeat myself, you're doing much better with your first grow than I did with mine. Looking really good man! Keep those pics coming.
 

Sfpyro420

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Sorry it took soo long to reply, I didn't see your question until now. No I didn't add a side panel, I had 2 extra unused slots on my panel so they just ran a direct line to my grow room adding two extra lines at 20 amps each line so 40 extra amps which gives me a total of 80 amps in the grow room. That will be more than enough for expanding.

I just noticed you said you completely defoliated your gdp. What do you mean? Did you remove all the fan leaves? I hope not because you want some leaves for insurance and the plant will use the nutrients from them during flowering. The bottom 1/3 leaves would be a safe amount to defoliate, I wouldnt do more than that.
I defoliated a lot of the plants that are still in veg and they bounced back pretty quickly and filled right back in, it actually created more of a bush like structure when they grew back , I did a heavy defol for air flow and space while the clones were in the dome , now that majority have rooted they are going to be left as is until my other tent shows up, going to run two flower tents and the mother tent , I’m going to try to find a small rack for clones and leave the others on the floor, most of these will be going into flower end of next month
 

Sfpyro420

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That yellowing looks like your giving them too many bloom nutes, potash and potassium for sure, I would back off on those nutes for sure. I had the same problem with my outdoor plants and when I lowered the bloom nutes it got better.
They havnt received anything, some of them are getting plain distilled water and most were still in Rockwool, no nutes, the flower tent isn’t even on bloom nutes yet that will be this week,
 

Sfpyro420

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I'm using an aerocloner, so my situation is different. I normally use only distilled water when cloning, and if the tops of the clones get a little yellow I give them a weak foliar feeding of fish emulsion (1/8 tsp) Earth Juice Microblast (1/8 tsp) and superthrive (1 drop) all measurements are per quart of water. Sometimes it helps, sometimes not - I'd guess about 50% of the time. With the aerocloner if they get really yellow on top they're done for. So far every time it's happened it's been my fault, taking cuttings that are too big. To repeat myself, you're doing much better with your first grow than I did with mine. Looking really good man! Keep those pics coming.
Yeah I’m wondering if when I gave a light mist the led intensity actually burned the tops because water was on the leaves, I’m not giving any nutes maybe it’s sucking itself dry, I have no idea and only time will tell
 

Steve7878

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I defoliated a lot of the plants that are still in veg and they bounced back pretty quickly and filled right back in, it actually created more of a bush like structure when they grew back , I did a heavy defol for air flow and space while the clones were in the dome , now that majority have rooted they are going to be left as is until my other tent shows up, going to run two flower tents and the mother tent , I’m going to try to find a small rack for clones and leave the others on the floor, most of these will be going into flower end of next month
Ya that's cool, I did the same with mine and lollipopped them in veg. I just thought you stripped all the leaves off from what you were saying.

If it's not from bloom nutes then it could be a ph problem, but I'm sure you've been giving them the proper ph so ya I guess time will tell. It could be a root problem because that coloring near the colas indicates something going on with your roots. I use led also and I never had coloring like that with spraying them but in the future you may want to foliate spray when lights are off so it doesn't evaporate before they take it in. If it was the spray I would imagine it would be all over though not just near the colas.
 

Sfpyro420

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Ya that's cool, I did the same with mine and lollipopped them in veg. I just thought you stripped all the leaves off from what you were saying.

If it's not from bloom nutes then it could be a ph problem, but I'm sure you've been giving them the proper ph so ya I guess time will tell. It could be a root problem because that coloring near the colas indicates something going on with your roots. I use led also and I never had coloring like that with spraying them but in the future you may want to foliate spray when lights are off so it doesn't evaporate before they take it in. If it was the spray I would imagine it would be all over though not just near the colas.
Yeah I’m going to just wait it out this time, Could have been the PH the water they got was 6.2 and I read that 5.5 is more ideal because of the Rockwool
 

WayFarGone

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Yeah I’m wondering if when I gave a light mist the led intensity actually burned the tops because water was on the leaves, I’m not giving any nutes maybe it’s sucking itself dry, I have no idea and only time will tell
I have 0 experience with leds, but I know that's possible with HPS/MH lights. Until you really get your cloning program down it's going to be a numbers game, when I was at that stage I took as many cuttings as I could. But then again when I first started my clone success ratio was only about 20%. Growing from clones is definitely where it's at, after growing clones from one mother out a few times I can tell you how many days it's going to be from cutting to smoking. I run a perpetual grow so consistency is a real necessity throughout the process. I've gotta have a good rooted clone to go into veg every 15 days, and if there's much variance in flowering times I end up with a really crowded flower room. I do have a new love I'm right proud of though, Original Glue. It's the first strain I've been excited about since the intro of White Rhino and it lives up to the hype. If this reply is a bit disjointed that's why!
 

Sfpyro420

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I have 0 experience with leds, but I know that's possible with HPS/MH lights. Until you really get your cloning program down it's going to be a numbers game, when I was at that stage I took as many cuttings as I could. But then again when I first started my clone success ratio was only about 20%. Growing from clones is definitely where it's at, after growing clones from one mother out a few times I can tell you how many days it's going to be from cutting to smoking. I run a perpetual grow so consistency is a real necessity throughout the process. I've gotta have a good rooted clone to go into veg every 15 days, and if there's much variance in flowering times I end up with a really crowded flower room. I do have a new love I'm right proud of though, Original Glue. It's the first strain I've been excited about since the intro of White Rhino and it lives up to the hype. If this reply is a bit disjointed that's why!
Post some pics man, I enjoy looking at other setups and grows! Post some pics of that clones you got too , I never had the chance of smoking white rhino ,
 

Sfpyro420

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Finally some nice little buds coming in , only week 2 of flower , day 16 , noticed the plants under the leds stayed a little shorter , one blue dream under led and one under the hps , the one under led growing bigger buds faster and stayed shorter, still very impressed I made it this far with no issues that needed any correcting, everything is looking great in the flower tent FA37E048-C191-4F47-AD36-07AFFB8D7E2D.jpegF05D6CA5-01E8-449E-B859-D2D6FC5D97D4.jpeg1E08C227-04BE-40FD-8470-55E74508CC43.jpegDD9A3E80-E833-4B4B-805D-6F496587AF4B.jpeg4B689B8E-7D9F-47FC-98E0-A2D37A12E006.jpeg
 

WayFarGone

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Post some pics man, I enjoy looking at other setups and grows! Post some pics of that clones you got too , I never had the chance of smoking white rhino ,
I'm practically legendary for my photography skills - for not having any whatsoever! Still here are a cpl pics. The ones in the cloner are White Rhino and Original Glue. The big one is Glue in the final veg stage, one more tying and trimming and it goes in the flower room Saturday.20181010_130528.jpg 20181010_130550.jpg
 

Steve7878

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Finally some nice little buds coming in , only week 2 of flower , day 16 , noticed the plants under the leds stayed a little shorter , one blue dream under led and one under the hps , the one under led growing bigger buds faster and stayed shorter, still very impressed I made it this far with no issues that needed any correcting, everything is looking great in the flower tent View attachment 4213255View attachment 4213256View attachment 4213258View attachment 4213259View attachment 4213260
Looking really nice man! You know I noticed the same thing with my grow, the led side of the grow has bigger fuller buds. I mean they all look great but the led side is just a bit bigger and fuller than the hps side and they're all the same strain gdp.

On a different note this coming Monday will be harvest day for me! That will put them at 9 full weeks since the flip. I will be giving them 48 hours of darkness before harvest since that's what's recommended for terpenes and flavor quality. I also gave them just ph plain water for 3 weeks. I'm hoping to do a low and slow drying ( 10-14 days) since that seems to give better quality smoke.

Another thing is they never really purpled up and I gave them really low temps for around 2 weeks. I had 59 degrees at night and 68-72 during lights on, there is a little purple but not very much at all so I wouldn't expect much purple since you have the same gdp unless maybe you got a different phenotype or something.I dont know it's not that big of a deal to me though it's still gdp lol. I'll give you my total dry weight and post pics when it's done drying.
 
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Sfpyro420

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Looking really nice man! You know I noticed the same thing with my grow, the led side of the grow has bigger fuller buds. I mean they all look great but the led side is just a bit bigger and fuller than the hps side and they're all the same strain gdp.

On a different note this coming Monday will be harvest day for me! That will put them at 9 full weeks since the flip. I will be giving them 48 hours of darkness before harvest since that's what's recommended for terpenes and flavor quality. I also gave them just ph plain water for 3 weeks. I'm hoping to do a low and slow drying ( 10-14 days) since that seems to give better quality smoke.

Another thing is they never really purpled up and I gave them really low temps for around 2 weeks. I had 59 degrees at night and 68-72 during lights on, there is a little purple but not very much at all so I wouldn't expect much purple since you have the same gdp unless maybe you got a different phenotype or something.I dont know it's not that big of a deal to me though it's still gdp lol. I'll give you my total dry weight and post pics when it's done drying.
Yeah as long as the buds come out good I don’t care about the color at all! I’m excited to see your results from that room grow forsure!!! Yeah my led side is like tighter bigger nugs, I have two blue dreams from the same mother so I will see what happens with them and compare
 

Sfpyro420

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6CB77632-3BD0-478A-80F3-21D09863D065.jpeg A31D5333-01BF-4395-8A2D-39598ACCEB1A.jpeg 30E9140D-5600-4012-9790-9D8FD8D7751D.jpeg 9844A194-DB7F-4CE6-9795-775DA79A2EC2.jpeg 682C1DAA-4452-4EFA-AD6E-60CC15951A78.jpeg 500F5A7C-EBD4-41C7-8A13-0AFA048E4875.jpeg Been busy as hell the past few weeks! So all my clones ended up surviving, took out the led and threw it into the flower tent and the T5s left in the mother/clone tent and every clone bounced back from that burnt look and is doing great! Flower is going good no problems still and I can’t complain, I did have a little heat issue the other night but was corrected , my ac went out and the way it is hooked up started blowing hot air into the tent ‍♂ , I ended up getting a rack for my smaller tent so I can have more space for clones and to veg, going to get some more t5s , I use sun blaze brand because they can be daisy chained together , been feeding with house and garden and as I stated before I just tried to dial In as close as I can without being to much or not enough and I have set the plants up next to each other that get about the same mixture into groups so it saves time , I have been mixing 2 gal at a time , I have 3 buckets, 2 are aerated for 24 hours then I mix in one that isn’t , helps me add extra air in the water and evaporate the chlorine and other chemicals in the tap water , also started a few new strains , candy rockz , jack and Jill , dj shorts blue berry , Donatello #2 . I will post again soon and add some more pictures ,
 
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