Love the assumption of NOT KNOWING ...lol

gb123

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To hear people spout off of HOW ITS GOING TO GO!

I say ...................................IT WONT GO! ;) lol

IF...hahahahahahahaha IF (assumption one is a killer lol) and
when Canadians go to buy their first grams of legal cannabis next week, many of them will do so ( AS THEY HAVE FOR EVER!) through(A FRIEND) the internet, creating( no) huge quantities of data as a side effect of their purchases.

But with only one week until legalization, privacy advocates say they still have plenty of questions about how that data will be handled.

And the answers could have serious ramifications: The United States still considers cannabis to be an illegal substance and concerns have been raised that Canadians could be blocked from travelling to the U.S. if customs officials find out that they have purchased the drug, or been involved in legalized production.

“It’s going to be an issue, and it’s going to present problems and challenges in terms of how that data is used, how it’s protected,” said Matt Murphy, a former U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agent who is now vice-president of compliance for Khiron Life Sciences, a Toronto-based cannabis company.

“I’m not aware of much guidance relative to how that data is protected, how it’s used, how it’s stored. These are all interesting questions that I think we’re going to have to deal with — probably sooner rather than later.”

Murphy downplayed the concerns about the U.S. going to great lengths to figure out who bought a gram of cannabis — he said they’re more worried about terrorists and illegal migrants — but he said that potential privacy breaches could affect people’s employment, or simply cause public embarrassment.

Some key players in the industry are clearly thinking about privacy issues, but with 10 provinces with different distribution systems, and the inherent complexity of e-commerce, it’s difficult to fully understand who all will have access to private cannabis-related data, and how it will be protected.

In a statement in late-September, the Ontario Cannabis Store said that it will take a “privacy by design” approach to online sales, which will be the only option available in the province until next year.

“Only information required for completing the transaction will be collected: name, address, contact (phone/email) and payment information,” OCS spokesman Daffyd Roderick said in an email. “This information is used to process transactions, to verify the identity of the purchaser, to deliver and return products, to issue refunds, and to protect against error or fraud.”

Roderick emphasized that data will be encrypted and stored in Canada. In a statement on the OCS website, the Crown corporation said that it will only retain data for the minimum amount of time required by law, and that the data will be held on servers in Canada.

The OCS is working with Shopify to provide e-commerce services for cannabis, and Loren Padelford, vice-president and GM for Shopify Plus, said the company has built special systems to store customer data exclusively in Canada.

“If that data is stored in our Canadian infrastructure, it is not being shared,” Padelford said. “Unless we are provided a court order by an entity that has jurisdiction over Shopify as a Canadian company, we will not be sharing this information with anybody.”

But Padelford also gave an idea of the complexity of the situation. In addition to collecting enough identifiable information for verifying a customer’s age and delivering the drugs to them, there’s a complicated financial system to consider.

Shopify routes payment information to “payment gateway” companies such as Stripe.

“Stripe has all the relationships with the banks, the credit card companies, that’s what the payment processors do,” he said. ”They are the relationship with that side. So they take order information from us and process that with VISA and Mastercard.”

Both VISA and Mastercard issued statements to the Financial Post downplaying the amount of customer data they have.

“When cardholders use their cards, we don’t know who they are and do not have contact information — because we only see an account number,” Mastercard said. “We don’t know what they purchased; we simply know the total amount spent at a merchant on a particular date.”

But anybody who’s ever looked at a credit card statement knows it also identifies individual retailers, which could identify the nature of the purchase.

Neither VISA or Mastercard would say if Canadian customer data is stored on Canadian servers, or if it goes to data centres in the U.S.

VISA said that it would not provide any customer information to law enforcement without “without proper judicial authority.”

Brynne Moore, a spokesperson for Scotiabank, suggested that they won’t really be treating cannabis data any different from other financial information.

“The safety and security of our customers and their accounts is a top priority for Scotiabank,” Moore said in an email. “We have policies in place to protect our customers’ privacy for all of their transactions with our bank, regardless of their nature.”
 

CalyxCrusher

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"Neither VISA or Mastercard would say if Canadian customer data is stored on Canadian servers, or if it goes to data centres in the U.S."

Well then
 

CannaReview

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BC has just admitted they haven't even put together a enforcement team and won't be shutting down the 'illegal' dispensaries until there are more licensed stores - "maybe as long as two years".
Might not be so someone I know with a dispensary got a visit from cops and CRA and was told they have one week to shut down of deal with the consequences.
 

WHATFG

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“It’s going to be an issue, and it’s going to present problems and challenges in terms of how that data is used, how it’s protected,” said Matt Murphy, a former U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agent who is now vice-president of compliance for Khiron Life Sciences, a Toronto-based cannabis company.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......the DEA...lol...

Out of curiosity...how many foreign companies are LPs in this country?...shouldn't be any, but...I'm not making the decisions...lol...
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Might not be so someone I know with a dispensary got a visit from cops and CRA and was told they have one week to shut down of deal with the consequences.
I listened to (BC Safety Minister) Mike Farnsworth on the radio this morning saying they have not yet hired the enforcement team and raids to shut down dispensaries will ramp out as more stores come online. There is only one license issued so far. As of the 17th, it is no longer a federal issue so it is up to the provinces to enforce laws. The CRA could definitely get involved, but a lot of the dispensaries have been submitting taxes. It's a shit show!
 

CannaReview

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I listened to (BC Safety Minister) Mike Farnsworth on the radio this morning saying they have not yet hired the enforcement team and raids to shut down dispensaries will ramp out as more stores come online. There is only one license issued so far. As of the 17th, it is no longer a federal issue so it is up to the provinces to enforce laws. The CRA could definitely get involved, but a lot of the dispensaries have been submitting taxes. It's a shit show!
I don't want to reveal too much of who it was but this person has been paying taxes but you don't want CRA digging deep into your personal finances and not just the corporate. ones. So this place as one week to shut down now.
 

OldMedUser

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I watched the Vancouver Island news last night and the dispensaries there won't have business licenses next week and are having closing out sales to get rid of product.

So in Victoria at least they are shutting down.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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The one on my island is shutting down eventually, but they are going to wait it out and see what happens. They'll keep limited stock on hand. It should have been as easy as licensing a liquor store or a corner store that sells smokes and lottery to keep the better dispensaries going. They have to buy their product through a government supplier, same as booze dealers, so what is the issue? Long live the BM.
 

CannaReview

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What's real BS here is no one has their zoning set up because of elections but the BC gov site is open for applications BUT they're saying you need zoning to be ready to meet the criteria. So say I apply and pay the thousands for the application there is no guarantee how many stores will be allowed by the municipality that I'm in. So if 10 stores apply in say Surrey and they only allow 5 then 5 people will get fucked over. No legalzation should be approved untill all federal and local laws are completed.
 

CannaReview

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The one on my island is shutting down eventually, but they are going to wait it out and see what happens. They'll keep limited stock on hand. It should have been as easy as licensing a liquor store or a corner store that sells smokes and lottery to keep the better dispensaries going. They have to buy their product through a government supplier, same as booze dealers, so what is the issue? Long live the BM.
Problem is the Fed and Provincial gov didn't want to wait till the municipal gov got their zoning ready.
 

CannaReview

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Nelson city council decided on Monday t allow the dispensaries here to stay open until their business licence expires, December 31, on account of the impact to patients.
Gonna be interesting what will happen to Nelson and other similar towns with the black market dying. It's nuts how many people quit growing, I didn't know till in the last few weeks guys came into my store and said you're not seeing me and my buddies as were done.. My shop is down 60%+ in sales, its getting a bit rough and most of the other hydro stores are off the same boat, I can't see 50% of hydro stores in BC surviving past legalization and close down in 4 months. My buddies wholesaler business for hydro is dead also and they're a pretty big company.
 

reynescabruner

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I bet, it would of course be confidential and protected. Blocking us from travelling to US because of statements of data would I doubt far to reality.
 

OldMedUser

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Mine rec plants are going to be in my vegetable garden area. It's the only spot on the 5 acres that gets sun. The neighbours don't care and fuck em if they do. If I can see their beer cases piled on the porch, they shouldn't get offended by a plant. Another stupid law that will be thrown out.
One of the reasons they want the plants to be out of sight is so local kids don't see it then sneak in and steal your pot. Gotta protect the kids! :)
 
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