Are we just smarter animals faking morality because we wear clothes?

Fogdog

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I'm a vegan. Animals are more moral than humans, only looking to survive. All we have is an apparent superiority that we made up. We're polluting the planet and using up resources that the Earth can no longer recover from.

Jesus Christ is a trap upon lazy dipshits who think saying they can repent and magically no longer need to work through their accumulated karma.

Creationism is a made up lie, it's an illusion of our perception keeping us stuck in the cycles of rebirth which seem to go on forever.

For your mocking, and arrogance assuming you know what I believe, enjoy coming back as the dog in your avatar.
People are simply animals with a few special abilities. Of course, evolution is another of the many facts that Canna Sylvan/Buddha2525 deny but in the interest of keeping this thread real, I'll just add some facts for her to deny.

The Genus, Homo, was, early on, comprised of vegetarians and omnivores. The omnivore branch thrived and learned how to cook meat long before the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens arrived, something like a million years ago. The vegetarian species on our branch on the tree of life died out. Just saying that mankind tried vegetarianism before and it didn't work out all that well.
 

Buddha2525

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People are simply animals with a few special abilities. Of course, evolution is another of the many facts that Canna Sylvan/Buddha2525 deny but in the interest of keeping this thread real, I'll just add some facts for her to deny.

The Genus, Homo, was, early on, comprised of vegetarians and omnivores. The omnivore branch thrived and learned how to cook meat long before the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens arrived, something like a million years ago. The vegetarian species on our branch on the tree of life died out. Just saying that mankind tried vegetarianism before and it didn't work out all that well.
I don't deny evolution but how it happened was purpose driven, not some random series of chemical reactions (abiogenesis) which then lead to random pairings(natural selection).

There's a collective intelligence, not god, who all worked together, who Buddhists call Bohdissvata who willingly choose to live in the cycles of rebirth, which science calls swarm intelligence, until all who wish to be free.

The fact is meat is no longer needed and only results in needless death, and is mostly done as pleasure, rather than survival.

Carbohydrates, protein, and fat are exactly the same whether they come from plants or animals. The only difference is how densely packed they are. Everything else from meat can be gotten from natural sources which include vitamins, minerals, and hormones, either from plants or manufactured by bacteria.

A whole food plant diet done correctly is almost impossible to get fat on, and doesn't lead to heart disease from too much cholesterol, nor diabetes, which most Americans now suffer.

So go ahead eat your meat, processed sugary twinkies, and chemical poisioned foods, then die a from amputated limbs caused by diabetes, a stroke or heart attack from clogged arteries, or cancer from preservatives and pesticides. That's your choice, but then don't bitch about how the evil white man did that to you, when the choice was all yours.

But in nature animals don't have that problem. We became the animals problem, who will once again thrive aftter we eventually exploit each other to extinction.
 
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Buddha2525

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Similar to this?
More like protozoa or fungus.

"In its usual animal hosts, T. gondii plays a literal cat-and-mouse game. Mice infected with the parasite lose their fear of the smell of cat urine. The parasite actually changes the brain so that the cat-pee smell becomes sexy to mice, prompting them to get close to their adversaries. This works out well for the parasite, which needs to get to a cat intestine to reproduce.

It's unclear whether the parasite's mind-control techniques have any effect on infected humans."

Candida is a fungal infection which thrives on sugar. If you attempt to kill Candida their dying spores cause a toxic reaction which goes away once you eat more sugar, the Candida colony then removes their toxins, making you feel better again. Your brain chemistry is therefore altered and a symbiotic relationship is made between your brain and billions on Candida spores.

Even though each single spore or protozoa have no intelligence alone, when billions of them infest your body they act as a collective, altering the way you think.
 

420God

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Veganism is a cult, thinking they're right in the same way while dismissing everything around them. The world wouldn't survive living off plants alone. It's a trend that only first world idiots believe are true. We are animals that feed off other animals the way nature has always intended. Only difference is we use fire to cook our food. Even herbivores eat meat for protein in nature now and then.

 

Buddha2525

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Veganism is a cult, thinking they're right in the same way while dismissing everything around them. The world wouldn't survive living off plants alone. It's a trend that only first world idiots believe are true. We are animals that feed off other animals the way nature has always intended. Only difference is we use fire to cook our food. Even herbivores eat meat for protein in nature now and then.

Meat from factory farming releases cortisol and adrenaline into the meat. This is why many who transition from being a meat eater to a plant based diet become calmer people.

Many who practice yoga will tell you after eating meat, getting to a transcended state of hyper-awareness becomes more difficult, especially with kriya yoga.

Eventually after enough practice, you enter a state of being where you produce your own endo-cannabinoids like anandamide, and are in a perpetually stoned state.

But unlike with marijuana the heightened awareness, feelings of bliss, and contentment aren't clouded by the psychodelic nature which comes from a foreign substance.

I don't even need to use marijuana anymore to feel the same effects. It's just a different feeling I use once in a while to force demons in my head, and fight the false connections I've created over a lifetime of not living the way I could've.
 

420God

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Meat from factory farming releases cortisol and adrenaline into the meat. This is why many who transition from being a meat eater to a plant based diet become calmer people.

Many who practice yoga will tell you after eating meat, getting to a transcended state of hyper-awareness becomes more difficult, especially with kriya yoga.

Eventually after enough practice, you enter a state of being where you produce your own endo-cannabinoids like anandamide, and are in a perpetually stoned state.

But unlike with marijuana the heightened awareness, feelings of bliss, and contentment aren't clouded by the psychodelic nature which comes from a foreign substance.

I don't even need to use marijuana anymore to feel the same effects. It's just a different feeling I use once in a while to force demons in my head, and fight the false connections I've created over a lifetime of not living the way I could've.
I've rarely ever eaten factory farmed meat as I raise my own, and I can guarantee I'm more in touch with nature and my surrounding than anyone you'll ever meet. Happiness and serenity come from within, and I'm not talking about your stomach.

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whitebb2727

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I don't deny evolution but how it happened was purpose driven, not some random series of chemical reactions (abiogenesis) which then lead to random pairings(natural selection).

There's a collective intelligence, not god, who all worked together, who Buddhists call Bohdissvata who willingly choose to live in the cycles of rebirth, which science calls swarm intelligence, until all who wish to be free.

The fact is meat is no longer needed and only results in needless death, and is mostly done as pleasure, rather than survival.

Carbohydrates, protein, and fat are exactly the same whether they come from plants or animals. The only difference is how densely packed they are. Everything else from meat can be gotten from natural sources which include vitamins, minerals, and hormones, either from plants or manufactured by bacteria.

A whole food plant diet done correctly is almost impossible to get fat on, and doesn't lead to heart disease from too much cholesterol, nor diabetes, which most Americans now suffer.

So go ahead eat your meat, processed sugary twinkies, and chemical poisioned foods, then die a from amputated limbs caused by diabetes, a stroke or heart attack from clogged arteries, or cancer from preservatives and pesticides. That's your choice, but then don't bitch about how the evil white man did that to you, when the choice was all yours.

But in nature animals don't have that problem. We became the animals problem, who will once again thrive aftter we eventually exploit each other to extinction.
Bullshit on the eating of meat is not needed. It is needed. I used to think that going the way of a vegetarian was the way to be healthy. It's not. We evolved to eat a combination of meat and vegetables.

No carbohydrates. Just meat, fat and various vegetables and a few fruits. Mainly meat, fat and veggies. That diet will reverse a lot of illness.

Why do you say it is immoral to eat meat? Some animals eat nothing but meat. Is that wrong? No. It's not. Why should it be wrong for humans. Sure we can live without meat but we evolved to eat meat. The different types of teeth we have are one example. Certian teeth are specific to eating meat.
 

Buddha2525

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Bullshit on the eating of meat is not needed. It is needed. I used to think that going the way of a vegetarian was the way to be healthy. It's not. We evolved to eat a combination of meat and vegetables.

No carbohydrates. Just meat, fat and various vegetables and a few fruits. Mainly meat, fat and veggies. That diet will reverse a lot of illness.

Why do you say it is immoral to eat meat? Some animals eat nothing but meat. Is that wrong? No. It's not. Why should it be wrong for humans. Sure we can live without meat but we evolved to eat meat. The different types of teeth we have are one example. Certian teeth are specific to eating meat.
Bzzz. Try again.

"Vegetarian animals ranging from gorillas to water deer, she reports, have bigger, sharper canines than we do; our canines aren't specially meant for processing meat. What we lack dentally is more important, in fact, than what we have. Gently open a (calm) dog's jaw, and there at the back will be the carnassial teeth, "blade-like and sharp and perfect for slicing meat." Lions and tigers, racoons and house cats — all carnivores — have them too. We don't"

https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/05/19/478645426/humans-are-meathooked-but-not-designed-for-meat-eating
 

420God

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Bzzz. Try again.

"Vegetarian animals ranging from gorillas to water deer, she reports, have bigger, sharper canines than we do; our canines aren't specially meant for processing meat. What we lack dentally is more important, in fact, than what we have. Gently open a (calm) dog's jaw, and there at the back will be the carnassial teeth, "blade-like and sharp and perfect for slicing meat." Lions and tigers, racoons and house cats — all carnivores — have them too. We don't"

https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/05/19/478645426/humans-are-meathooked-but-not-designed-for-meat-eating
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curious2garden

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I despise homicidal vegans
After much consideration I decided I have to give strawberry homicidal vegans a pass. I visited my son in Venice today and after some superlative BBQ we walked over to Salt & Straw a, frou frou chi chi, ice cream place. I eschewed all the politically correct flavors and got chocolate. My son got organic vegan roasted strawberry and coconut ice cream. Probably the best tasting ice cream I've ever had. The roasted strawberries just exploded with flavor.
 

420God

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After much consideration I decided I have to give strawberry homicidal vegans a pass. I visited my son in Venice today and after some superlative BBQ we walked over to Salt & Straw a, frou frou chi chi, ice cream place. I eschewed all the politically correct flavors and got chocolate. My son got organic vegan roasted strawberry and coconut ice cream. Probably the best tasting ice cream I've ever had. The roasted strawberries just exploded with flavor.
Sounds like I need to send you some grass fed organic brisket. You'll forget all about those strawberries. ;-)
 
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