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Southside112

Southside112

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whytewidow said:
So your white widow is fruity smelling? Definitely not white widow. And not dogging it at all. But I'd say it's safe to say I have run more white widow than anyone on here. By several different breeders. As well as black widow. The original white widow..?????? None of them have been fruity. Except one from nirvana back acouple years ago. But real white widow isnt fruity at all. Not in the slightest. And that's way too sativa leaning to be white widow. Real white widow is straight earthy wood with jus a tad of floral on the back end. If I was guessing I'd say I've run around 17 different breeder white widow strains. And around 60 runs of it. But what gets me is you said its black widow from mr. nice. Which should be the real deal. From shanti. Apparently he lost the parents. Is it from an old pack or newer recently ordered pack. I have a few packs from when shanti was still with GHS. And a few packs from when he left brought out black widow. They were very close in resemblance. From GHS to Mr. Nice. But none of those were fruity in the least. And I run entire packs of them. Like I said above the only fruity one was from nirvana. And it looked nothing like it or smelled like it. But yours looks good nonetheless.

Edit: and real white widow finishes in 60-63 days. How long did it take to finish first run?
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. So the back story on the black widow seeds. I got this back in 2013 from a site out of the UK. This was before I found some good American breeders. So the white widow I'm growing out now is actually a s1 of the original seeds I got in 2013. One of the plants hermied on me late in flower and I got 19 seeds off of her. The mom was way more indica dom than the one I'm growing now. But yeah the original and this one have a very fruity smell to them. Very good producer. Here's a pic of the mom for reference. Trust your opinion though and for all I know this site was full of beans. That's why I like to buy directly from the breeders now if I can. Cheers. 20180405_064250.jpg 20180305_104445.jpg
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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blowincherrypie said:
How much all in?
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Under 500 if you count what I used on the light. As I bought a ton of extra strips.. But I bought a ton of strips before everyone else did. Then arrow raised their price. I got my strips for 8.77 a piece. For the 560mm 3000k single rows. I bought 40 of them. I still have bunch.
And then I bought a bunch dual row 560mm 2700k strips. Got 25 of them for 11.30 each. And the red strips I bought the diodes. 678nm he photo reds and 660nm deep red. 60 of each on each strip. Alternated every other. A buddy soldered them in for me for some herb. They have 120 diodes each in 23 inch copper pcbs. 60 of each 660nm and 678nm

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This was before I put the dual rows on
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whytewidow

whytewidow

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Southside112 said:
Interesting. Thanks for the info. So the back story on the black widow seeds. I got this back in 2013 from a site out of the UK. This was before I found some good American breeders. So the white widow I'm growing out now is actually a s1 of the original seeds I got in 2013. One of the plants hermied on me late in flower and I got 19 seeds off of her. The mom was way more indica dom than the one I'm growing now. But yeah the original and this one have a very fruity smell to them. Very good producer. Here's a pic of the mom for reference. Trust your opinion though and for all I know this site was full of beans. That's why I like to buy directly from the breeders now if I can. Cheers. View attachment 4220346 View attachment 4220352
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Yeah those buds are way way too dark for WW. They are whitish lime green. But not to say that's not a cross of WW. But those are super nice n dense looking.
 
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whytewidow

whytewidow

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Badmofo529 said:
I might see if I could get away with hanging this in the center with some of the new qb 96 pucks in the corners.
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The qb304s are 64 bucks. Two of those would smash a 2x4. 4x4 get 4 of them. One driver. Or buy two drivers to upgrade later on. And a little secret. Dont spend a ton on drivers. Meanwell/Hlgs are nice. But there are substitutes for alot less. Or even going with the non waterproof case ones and save yourself 60 bucks roughly. As long as you dont have it anywhere near water.
 
Badmofo529

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whytewidow said:
The qb304s are 64 bucks. Two of those would smash a 2x4. 4x4 get 4 of them. One driver. Or buy two drivers to upgrade later on. And a little secret. Dont spend a ton on drivers. Meanwell/Hlgs are nice. But there are substitutes for alot less. Or even going with the non waterproof case ones and save yourself 60 bucks roughly. As long as you dont have it anywhere near water.
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Yeah I'm kinda trying to wait to see if they put out some new shit once they get their new manufacturing facility up and running. I'm hoping they do something with the 120/132 boards.
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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whytewidow said:
So your white widow is fruity smelling? Definitely not white widow. And not dogging it at all. But I'd say it's safe to say I have run more white widow than anyone on here. By several different breeders. As well as black widow. The original white widow..?????? None of them have been fruity. Except one from nirvana back acouple years ago. But real white widow isnt fruity at all. Not in the slightest. And that's way too sativa leaning to be white widow. Real white widow is straight earthy wood with jus a tad of floral on the back end. If I was guessing I'd say I've run around 17 different breeder white widow strains. And around 60 runs of it. But what gets me is you said its black widow from mr. nice. Which should be the real deal. From shanti. Apparently he lost the parents. Is it from an old pack or newer recently ordered pack. I have a few packs from when shanti was still with GHS. And a few packs from when he left brought out black widow. They were very close in resemblance. From GHS to Mr. Nice. But none of those were fruity in the least. And I run entire packs of them. Like I said above the only fruity one was from nirvana. And it looked nothing like it or smelled like it. But yours looks good nonetheless.

Edit: and real white widow finishes in 60-63 days. How long did it take to finish first run?
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There are definitely fruity white widows...there are an enormous amount of genes in those lines...I've grown several dutch companies. Only GHS did I not run into anything fruity but did not grow many as it was horrible (cardboard). I have had some very nice fruity and spicy widows from MNS. Flying dutchmen was the best white widow so far amazing almost indescribable fruity/floral and I don't like floral at ALL. I did like those though.

We aren't even talking a lot of seeds to pop to find it either. 10 seeds a brand...which is nothing in the scheme of millions of genes.

slow drawl said:
I grew out a WW from DP, it took forever to finish and was fruity as all get out. Ended up with just over 2lbs from her. Was excellent smoke and a perfect hybrid, everyone raved over it. Must not have been the real deal though...View attachment 4220243
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I have not tried theirs and definitely will because my favorite are the sweet leaning widows. Thanks a lot for posting.

PS Ingremars widow was used to make Paradise Seeds ice cream....It smells like like vanilla ice cream and some have grape. I don't think a lot of people comprehend how many genes are in the older lines when people weren't 1 to 1ing and femming everything to retardedness.

whytewidow said:
Yeah those buds are way way too dark for WW. They are whitish lime green. But not to say that's not a cross of WW. But those are super nice n dense looking.
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To try to put skunk, widow, haze, you name it into a pigeon hole and say it only smells or looks a certain way is just not at all realistic.
 
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Yodaweed

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
There are definitely fruity white widows...there are an enormous amount of genes in those lines...I've grown several dutch companies. Only GHS did I not run into anything fruity but did not grow many as it was horrible (cardboard). I have had some very nice fruity and spicy widows from MNS. Flying dutchmen was the best white widow so far amazing almost indescribable fruity/floral and I don't like floral at ALL. I did like those though.

We aren't even talking a lot of seeds to pop to find it either. 10 seeds a brand...which is nothing in the scheme of millions of genes.
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I agree, there's fruity phenotypes of white widow, the best phenos are spicy tho.
 
Heisenbubble

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White widow seems to be in the top 5 strains that every noob starts to grow.the infirmary is full of white widow grows in fox farm and underneath amazon light kits.its like the go to for everyone it seems that first starts growing lol.does anyone know what is actually the make up of white widow?
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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Heisenbubble said:
White widow seems to be in the top 5 strains that every noob starts to grow.the infirmary is full of white widow grows in fox farm and underneath amazon light kits.its like the go to for everyone it seems that first starts growing lol.does anyone know what is actually the make up of white widow?
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Brazilian and South Indian well known for a long time. Brazilian lines is where the citrus comes from. Chimera had some awesome Brazillian crosses...Brazilian has some awesome highs soaring clear electric.
 
Heisenbubble

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
Brazilian and South Indian well known for a long time. Brazilian lines is where the citrus comes from. Chimera had some awesome Brazillian crosses...Brazilian has some awesome highs soaring clear electric.
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I know its half south American and half Pakistan indica but I wonder what the actual strains are in it.seems to be a big mystery.like the people who are making the seeds I'm wondering wtf theybare actually using
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
There are definitely fruity white widows...there are an enormous amount of genes in those lines...I've grown several dutch companies. Only GHS did I not run into anything fruity but did not grow many as it was horrible (cardboard). I have had some very nice fruity and spicy widows from MNS. Flying dutchmen was the best white widow so far amazing almost indescribable fruity/floral and I don't like floral at ALL. I did like those though.

We aren't even talking a lot of seeds to pop to find it either. 10 seeds a brand...which is nothing in the scheme of millions of genes.



I have not tried theirs and definitely will because my favorite are the sweet leaning widows. Thanks a lot for posting.

PS Ingremars widow was used to make Paradise Seeds ice cream....It smells like like vanilla ice cream and some have grape. I don't think a lot of people comprehend how many genes are in the older lines when people weren't 1 to 1ing and femming everything to retardedness.



To try to put skunk, widow, haze, you name it into a pigeon hole and say it only smells or looks a certain way is just not at all realistic.
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If you run white widow and it was fruity. Then it wasnt real widow. Period. White widow real deal does not have fruit scents to it. It just doesnt. It's a white strain. I have run white widow over 100 times total. 1 plant was fruity. From nirvana. And I'll bet you your entire seed collection says you can pop both packs of 1995 white widow I have. And you wont find fruit. In none of them. I'm not argue with someone over something I know for fact from first hand experience for years. And I mean years. White widow is one of the reason I took up growing. Its comprised of Brazilian sativa mother and South Indian indica-dominant hybrid. Called Manga rosa, crossed to the male he found in the beans from the farmer in the Kerala region. The original clone also had zero fruit. Maybe once it was bred back to itself or bred to another ww you'll find fruit. But in original shantibaba ww theres no fruit. None. Not even the slightest of fruit.

Edit theres old post from shanti talking about it to a guy who was growing it. He said it was fruity. And shantibaba str8 told him. That it wasnt his ww. Bc theres no fruit nose in ww. I'll see if I can find it.
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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Heisenbubble said:
I know its half south American and half Pakistan indica but I wonder what the actual strains are in it.seems to be a big mystery.like the people who are making the seeds I'm wondering wtf theybare actually using
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Strains? It was made like most things in that day from landrace acquired seeds from the stated regions. Just like Blueberry and Skunk....countless others. Took years of inbreeding and lots of breeders took it their own direction hence all the different types. Shark Shock Great White Shark et cetera is the same genes but skunk added into the mix.

whytewidow said:
If you run white widow and it was fruity. Then it wasnt real widow. Period. White widow real deal does not have fruit scents to it. It just doesnt. It's a white strain. I have run white widow over 100 times total. 1 plant was fruity. From nirvana. And I'll bet you your entire seed collection says you can pop both packs of 1995 white widow I have. And you wont find fruit. In none of them. I'm not argue with someone over something I know for fact from first hand experience for years. And I mean years. White widow is one of the reason I took up growing. Its comprised of Brazilian sativa mother and South Indian indica-dominant hybrid. The original clone also had zero fruit. Maybe once it was bred back to itself or bred to another ww you'll find fruit. But in original shantibaba ww theres no fruit. None. Not even the slightest of fruit.

Edit theres old post from shanti talking about it to a guy who was growing it. He said it was fruity. And shantibaba str8 told him. That it wasnt jus ww. Bc theres no fruit nose in ww. I'll see if I can find it.
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LOL yeah I guess we will just toss aside the accounts of those directly involved in making it and just go with your version of what white widow is...Not even worth reading your post past the first line.

There are fruit scents and it's plain to smell to anyone who has grown shantis work so I don't know what hat you pulled that out of but it is not true. I have actually grown his lines and not just a couple of beans to give a worthless opinion on. I have also grown brazillian genes and the citrus smell (lemon in particular which is a fuckin fruit) is definitely there.
 
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