Organic no till, probiotic, knf, jadam, vermicomposting, soil mixes, sips etc... Q & A

SirSquashalot

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For the 32/33 gallon cans I normally just do the holes in the bottom for drainage since the lids are loose enough for air to get in and I don't drill them. IDK about holes *everywhere* since I've not done it, but some in the sides should provide more air to the mix. You would need to experiment to see how well that works/doesn't work for you. I can only offer guesses on that.

No, you don't need to let that mix completely dry out. Getting air to it was the important thing and you did that by spreading it out on the floor. Moist is fine. I would add more aeration while you have it spread out and easy to get to.

Can you find pine bark mulch in your area? It's been a part of my mix for over 40 years. It brings quite a bit to the table and I won't make a mix without it. This is bark, NOT wood chips and should be around fingernail size, not large. *I* add it at ~10% of the mix much like biochar.

You certainly need minerals and trace elements for your mix. I've stopped using rock dusts like granite and now only use Azomite and greensand for inputs. Greensand is a slow release, but lightning fast compared to granite or basalt that are super hard and really slow to break down. Greensand is a sedimentary rock, Azomite is a clay and both weather/release much faster than ignious (?) rock such as basalt or granite.

Kelp meal and comfrey both are excellent mineral and trace element sources.

No, Azomite isn't a necessity, but it does contain everything all in one package. The name says it all. A to Z Of Minerals Including Trace Elements. Using the Azomite and greensand and kelp meal and comfrey gives me 4 different sources of minerals and trace elements along with 4 different release rates. Micros are not an issue.

HTH

Wet
So informative, I love it.
I'm sure I can find some pine bark at the local garden store. I'll look into that and the azomite. I've got a bag of "red cedar blend" appears to be all shredded up bark. I've just never used it because it was stored outside when I bought it and I'm afraid it might have bugs in it.
I've bought two bags of large perlite I'm going to add in too.

I guess now would be a good time to ask, I bought this product called "Mykos" , it's a mycorrhizal inoculant, which I know is a good thing, but I dont really know what that means? lol but I like having that arsenal of stuff to kickstart all the micro life within the soil. I have those Mycos, recharge(microbes) and Biosis(more microbes). Do you recommend anything else to add to this?2018-11-08 07.55.33.jpg
 

Lordhooha

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So informative, I love it.
I'm sure I can find some pine bark at the local garden store. I'll look into that and the azomite. I've got a bag of "red cedar blend" appears to be all shredded up bark. I've just never used it because it was stored outside when I bought it and I'm afraid it might have bugs in it.
I've bought two bags of large perlite I'm going to add in too.

I guess now would be a good time to ask, I bought this product called "Mykos" , it's a mycorrhizal inoculant, which I know is a good thing, but I dont really know what that means? lol but I like having that arsenal of stuff to kickstart all the micro life within the soil. I have those Mycos, recharge(microbes) and Biosis(more microbes). Do you recommend anything else to add to this?View attachment 4229356
I like me some recharge it makes for some happy roots I roll all my clones in it.
 

Greenthumbs256

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So informative, I love it.
I'm sure I can find some pine bark at the local garden store. I'll look into that and the azomite. I've got a bag of "red cedar blend" appears to be all shredded up bark. I've just never used it because it was stored outside when I bought it and I'm afraid it might have bugs in it.
I've bought two bags of large perlite I'm going to add in too.

I guess now would be a good time to ask, I bought this product called "Mykos" , it's a mycorrhizal inoculant, which I know is a good thing, but I dont really know what that means? lol but I like having that arsenal of stuff to kickstart all the micro life within the soil. I have those Mycos, recharge(microbes) and Biosis(more microbes). Do you recommend anything else to add to this?View attachment 4229356
OK so first as for the mykos it's helps the roots grow better, basically there is more but thats the dummy version! I use it at all transplants! I also use azos(also made by extreme gardening) and it is a nitrogen fixer, I also use that for every transplant! there is a lot of ppl that swear by these two and I'm very happy with using them

as for the recharge, from growers choice I just recently got some of it, from what I can tell it replaces my compost teas very well, I still use a Lil of both but I think it's a nice addition to work into my system! Great thing about organics, less is more and it's kinda hard to over do something unless your going crazy!
 

Greenthumbs256

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So informative, I love it.
I'm sure I can find some pine bark at the local garden store. I'll look into that and the azomite. I've got a bag of "red cedar blend" appears to be all shredded up bark. I've just never used it because it was stored outside when I bought it and I'm afraid it might have bugs in it.
I've bought two bags of large perlite I'm going to add in too.

I guess now would be a good time to ask, I bought this product called "Mykos" , it's a mycorrhizal inoculant, which I know is a good thing, but I dont really know what that means? lol but I like having that arsenal of stuff to kickstart all the micro life within the soil. I have those Mycos, recharge(microbes) and Biosis(more microbes). Do you recommend anything else to add to this?View attachment 4229356
here is a thread that I just started working on, and in it I use my organic living soil in a sip pot! you may find some useful info in there and may like the process, check it out!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/greens-gorilla-glue-4.979073/
 

Greenthumbs256

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and one more thing I rotate into my waterings in a regular smart pot is aloe and coconut powder into a thing of water! this feeds some of the life in the soil! I've found when u take turns mixing in all these different methods, you can really cover all your bases, everything has a reason and a job to do! just remember less is more!
 

crimsonecho

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So informative, I love it.
I'm sure I can find some pine bark at the local garden store. I'll look into that and the azomite. I've got a bag of "red cedar blend" appears to be all shredded up bark. I've just never used it because it was stored outside when I bought it and I'm afraid it might have bugs in it.
I've bought two bags of large perlite I'm going to add in too.

I guess now would be a good time to ask, I bought this product called "Mykos" , it's a mycorrhizal inoculant, which I know is a good thing, but I dont really know what that means? lol but I like having that arsenal of stuff to kickstart all the micro life within the soil. I have those Mycos, recharge(microbes) and Biosis(more microbes). Do you recommend anything else to add to this?View attachment 4229356
You are probably aware of this but myco needs to make contact with the roots to be effective, so sprinkling some directly at the roots during transplant is the most effective way. Also if you are feeding much available phosphate, the colonization will be reduced. (You probably not tho being a “synergistic” grower)
Never used the other two, i do teas instead. I also add diatomaceous earth to my soil mix, its basically silica. Neem meal is very good too, it has nitrogen fixing capabilities. Also it kills and repels pests when amended into the soil.
 
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Bugeye

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So informative, I love it.
I'm sure I can find some pine bark at the local garden store. I'll look into that and the azomite. I've got a bag of "red cedar blend" appears to be all shredded up bark. I've just never used it because it was stored outside when I bought it and I'm afraid it might have bugs in it.
I've bought two bags of large perlite I'm going to add in too.

I guess now would be a good time to ask, I bought this product called "Mykos" , it's a mycorrhizal inoculant, which I know is a good thing, but I dont really know what that means? lol but I like having that arsenal of stuff to kickstart all the micro life within the soil. I have those Mycos, recharge(microbes) and Biosis(more microbes). Do you recommend anything else to add to this?View attachment 4229356
Mykos is a synergistic fungus, not a microbe bacteria. Read up on myco fungi, amazing stuff. Get this stuff working, add a tea or two, and that is the secret to explosive organic soil growth.
 

SirSquashalot

Active Member
OK so first as for the mykos it's helps the roots grow better, basically there is more but thats the dummy version! I use it at all transplants! I also use azos(also made by extreme gardening) and it is a nitrogen fixer, I also use that for every transplant! there is a lot of ppl that swear by these two and I'm very happy with using them

as for the recharge, from growers choice I just recently got some of it, from what I can tell it replaces my compost teas very well, I still use a Lil of both but I think it's a nice addition to work into my system! Great thing about organics, less is more and it's kinda hard to over do something unless your going crazy!
You mention a "nitrogen fixer",
Do you mean to tell me there's a product out there that can take an N-tox soil and condition it and make it bearable for the plant, just by adding that to the soil?

I appreciate everybody's input, slowly learning.
 

SirSquashalot

Active Member
I like me some recharge it makes for some happy roots I roll all my clones in it.
Yeah I have a handful of seedlings 8 days in, and I gave them recharge with their first real watering about 4 days in and just noticed today some pretty hefty root development already through my clear solo cups.
 

Greenthumbs256

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You mention a "nitrogen fixer",
Do you mean to tell me there's a product out there that can take an N-tox soil and condition it and make it bearable for the plant, just by adding that to the soil?

I appreciate everybody's input, slowly learning.
I'm not saying it's some kinda magic pill or some shit, but that is what azos is, I can't really give you a ton of info on it unfortunately, but maybe someone else here could explain it better, or even just goggle I'm sure quite a few post will pop up and be able to explain this better. but yes azos is a nitrogen fixer!
 

stoned-monkey

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Nitrogen fixing bacteria use nirtogen from the air and combine it with oxygen or hydrogen to form a plant available nirtogen. I dont think it fixes nitrogen toxic soil. If thats your issue mix with some base soil to dilute it.

Cover crops such as clover and legumes are nitrogen fixers too.

Btw i am no expert just a guy who finds this stuff really cool.
 

MustangStudFarm

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@hyroot have you tried using marijuana or hemp growth tips (and/or males)in ferments? I am thinking i could use the parts i trim off the plant as it grows could be better used then just compost.
I just used a tomato plant, it was about to freeze and the plant was going to die anyways. I thought that tomatoes are supposed to be very similar to MJ anyways.

The two videos that I watched were talking about banana flowers, but who has access to them?
 

SSGrower

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@hyroot have you tried using marijuana or hemp growth tips (and/or males)in ferments? I am thinking i could use the parts i trim off the plant as it grows could be better used then just compost.
Ive used whole plant, roots and all, standard practice would be to use the growing tips. Ive also done sst with cannabis seeds.
 

Greenthumbs256

Well-Known Member
You mention a "nitrogen fixer",
Do you mean to tell me there's a product out there that can take an N-tox soil and condition it and make it bearable for the plant, just by adding that to the soil?

I appreciate everybody's input, slowly learning.
Nitrogen fixing bacteria use nirtogen from the air and combine it with oxygen or hydrogen to form a plant available nirtogen. I dont think it fixes nitrogen toxic soil. If thats your issue mix with some base soil to dilute it.

Cover crops such as clover and legumes are nitrogen fixers too.

Btw i am no expert just a guy who finds this stuff really cool.
hey guys I found this info on azos, it's a good read and I learned a few things, you may wanna know too! here the link, I also snapped two screenshots just in case yall are lazy like me and don't really care, but the link has ALOT more info! I was just curious after you had said that, and figured ya guys might wanna know as well!

https://waytogrow.net/blogs/articles/5-ass-kicking-applications-for-azospirillum
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