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whytewidow

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Bodyne said:
Let the junkies lay in the floor and shit themselves, and whine and cry and beg for more and then try to steal what you have to get money to get more. And they all cry bout it, but they don't want to go to rehab or they don't want to try to quit. Nothing worse than a fucking noddin off junkie around.
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It's easy to say stuff like that when your not affected by it. Just remember addiction has no boundaries. It affects people from all walks of life. From poor to rich, to nobody to somebody. You'll think differently when someone close to you is affected. Someone you truly care about. Watching them slowly die, and fade out of your life. Compassion is what this world is missing these days. It takes a stronger person to be on both sides of the fence than it does to be setting in a chair judging people from across the road.
 
Bodyne

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flip side, been there, had friend steal from me for the shit, implicate me in their shit, bald faced lies, I do feel empathy for them, even had a friend go in his bedroom while myself and others present and eat a 30.06 and blow his head off. I have compassion, but you have to help people that want to help themselves, if they just want a buzz, and to live that lifestyle, meth or opiates, and keep living it, even when they get opportunities to get off it. what is a person supposed to think. I guess thoughts and prayers. But I've also seen junkies do some most fucked up things. You really have no idea, its such a problem, I prolly have more friends on the shit, even at an older age, than not, and Im still the old pot head, lol. We'll see who lasts longer in this old world. I have compassion, but Im not stupid.
The other thing is Im hearing many KNOW fentanyl is in the H, that's why they want it. They want to push the edge a lil bit more. Mac Miller the rapper that died of od, he was partying with fent and coke, lol. now thats a real smart combo, eh? People think folks are slipping the fent in the H, people are asking for it, like the old redrum days, if it kills people, there are some junkies out there that just makes them want to try it, they can handle it. I guess not.
 
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Depending how well everyone likes the autos I may carry a small line on the website for you outdoor growers up north and in canada.
I'll price them affordable and nothing compared to what the industry is charging for 3 seeds.
There easy to breed because I can do it in the veg room or outdoors in isolated areas.
 
whitebb2727

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Dustjesus said:
Withdrawal is not the biggest reason of fear. It's the letting go of the joy in your heart. The loss of loved ones this chemical made you forget.
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I beg to differ. I was an alcoholic for years due to trama. I now am going to school to be a counselor and volunteer with addicts.

Sure. The trama and forgetting are a part. Opiates tend to be different than other drugs. They are very physically addictive. It gets to the point the addict doesn't even get high and just takes the substance to feel normal.

Most everyone I've worked with and talked to list withdrawal to be the main reason for not stopping.

It's why programs that use Suboxone are so successful. You do several things. First and foremost is to stabilize the patient. At that point you can then work on coping with trama.

Bodyne said:
do some reading

https://americanaddictioncenters.org/kratom/does-it-get-you-high/
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That's just fear mongering. Kratom has been used for thousands of years without any deaths from it.

If you dig into the cases where they claim kratom to be the cause there are other substances along with kratom.

It's just like pot. It's safe and you won't die from it. Doesn't mean you can't mix other stuff with it and die or do something stupid while high and die.

Kratom is in the coffee tree family. Yes at higher does it is opiate like. It attaches to mainly the mu opiate receptors. It's why it works for withdrawal. It's not going to make you high like herion or other opiates.

Then the further fact you tell me to do some reading. I have. More importantly I've used kratom for a number of years. It's safe and not quite like an opiate like you claim.

Amos Otis said:
Hermie Juice? That's what we used to call sustanon 250 once the big girls began pushing the envelope.



Why would one willingly want to be sober as opposed to comfortably stoned, I think, is the bigger issue. It's like getting a root canal and trying to save money by refusing the pain killers. :eyesmoke:
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I find it important to have times of being sober. It's important to me anyways for a balanced outlook on life.

Don't confuse my stance though. I think all drugs should be legal.

Let's take opiates. If people had a safe, reliable, consistent source they would be safer. Things like knowing how strong something you are buying and that it will be the same strength would stop a lot of deaths. Not all but most.

I would water that a lot wouldn't lose thier job and end up committing crime to pay for thier habit. You take a regulate it and lower the price to where what used to cost $100 is now only a few dollars and addicts can afford it.

Im against the war in drugs all together. I think the money would be better spent providing help to those that need it.

I forget what country it was but they setup herion clinics. Addicts can come get a free dose everyday. It cost about $3,000 per person per year to dose than the $30,000 a year to house them in prison.
 
whytewidow

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whitebb2727 said:
I beg to differ. I was an alcoholic for years due to trama. I now am going to school to be a counselor and volunteer with addicts.

Sure. The trama and forgetting are a part. Opiates tend to be different than other drugs. They are very physically addictive. It gets to the point the addict doesn't even get high and just takes the substance to feel normal.

Most everyone I've worked with and talked to list withdrawal to be the main reason for not stopping.

It's why programs that use Suboxone are so successful. You do several things. First and foremost is to stabilize the patient. At that point you can then work on coping with trama.


That's just fear mongering. Kratom has been used for thousands of years without any deaths from it.

If you dig into the cases where they claim kratom to be the cause there are other substances along with kratom.

It's just like pot. It's safe and you won't die from it. Doesn't mean you can't mix other stuff with it and die or do something stupid while high and die.

Kratom is in the coffee tree family. Yes at higher does it is opiate like. It attaches to mainly the mu opiate receptors. It's why it works for withdrawal. It's not going to make you high like herion or other opiates.

Then the further fact you tell me to do some reading. I have. More importantly I've used kratom for a number of years. It's safe and not quite like an opiate like you claim.


I find it important to have times of being sober. It's important to me anyways for a balanced outlook on life.

Don't confuse my stance though. I think all drugs should be legal.

Let's take opiates. If people had a safe, reliable, consistent source they would be safer. Things like knowing how strong something you are buying and that it will be the same strength would stop a lot of deaths. Not all but most.

I would water that a lot wouldn't lose thier job and end up committing crime to pay for thier habit. You take a regulate it and lower the price to where what used to cost $100 is now only a few dollars and addicts can afford it.

Im against the war in drugs all together. I think the money would be better spent providing help to those that need it.

I forget what country it was but they setup herion clinics. Addicts can come get a free dose everyday. It cost about $3,000 per person per year to dose than the $30,000 a year to house them in prison.
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I've been to long term rehab twice in my early 20s. First time I forgot everything I did there. So I had to go back lol. Withdrawal is the biggest reason people dont quit. That and not wanting to. You have to reach the complete bottom before you need help. And everyones bottom is different. Mine was overdrawing my bank account to the sum of 6500 bucks. Plus throwing my then fiancee out of the car on the middle of the interstate about 60 miles from our home. And left her. And losing my house, car, and everything inside it. I have 13 years clean this coming January. The girl I have now, and have two amazing kids with. Is one reason I got clean. Plain n simple. Without her help I would've never done it. You have to want to do it for yourself first though. You cant do it for your kids, or wife, or family. You have to want it yourself. And you cant give up 5 minutes before the miracle happens. And if you take garbage in them garbage will come out. One day at a time. If that'stoo long take it one hour at a time. Or even one minute at a time.. just dont give up. Surround yourself with like minded people. And you 1000000000000% have to change 3 things. People, places , and things. You can have the same friends, hang out at the same places. Or do the same things you did when you got high. Its a completely new life.


Edit: I guess I should state. I smoke. I always will. I dont consider that, a drug per say. Without it ida never got through the months of withdrawal I had. I had several sponsors leave me in my earlier clean time bc i smoked. Until i found an old hippie dude. Who has over 35 years clean. But smokes herb. Hes still my sponsor today. And we are great friends. He was at the hospital when both my kids were born. Hes the big brother I never had.
 
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whytewidow

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Michael Huntherz said:
For the record, working with @Heisenbeans has been a pleasure so far, he has been an absolutely professional gentleman in that regard, and yet relaxingly informal.

I am all out of adverbs and adjectives for the moment, peace, bitches.
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You're doing his website design arent you??? If so. Looks tits so far. I registered. But I didnt use my real name. Be kinda cool if you would make that optional. I had to enter something to register. So I jus put whyte. For a name. Bc it wouldnt let me submit it, without something in it. Not everyone who registers wants heisen or you to know our real name. I know you can put whatever. But jus be quicker if it was optional. Not trying to tell you how to do it. Bc I'm not a web guy. Just my basic 2 peso opinion. Lol.
 
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