Growing in Missouri

muleface

muleface

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Starting Dec 6th (i think) Missouri will allow us to grow 6 plants for medical reasons. You must get a card from your doctor to allow for this. I want to talk about the best setup for a 6 plant grow space. Tent size and light setup.

I don't really tent grow myself, I have a large room that is a grow space, but for the specific purpose of 6 plants i would like some opinions.

What size tent would be best for this? I am less concerned about the grow method for this question. I will likely use dutch buckets.
 
DesertPlants

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It all depends on how big you grow them and how much light you have to work with. I have done solo cup fries that take up less than two square feet, up to a single plant that was vegged out to sixteen square feet. I would recommend deciding on a size you think you can reliably light and maintain and then work back from there.

Most people start smaller like 3x3. If you have room, I would start at 5x5, but only start with a portion of the tent. You don’t need a ton of plants for good yield. My last Banana Kush dropped just over 318 grams.
 
muleface

muleface

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lighting isn't a problem, i have a ton of lighting. I am looking to create a basic and repeatable design.
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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6 flowering plants, 18 if caregiver but that room has to be under lock and key. You can have I believe a 1/4 lb to 1/2 lb at residence, considered two months supply, you can get 4 oz a day from the clubs. There is no mention of how many babies.

Missouri State Medical Association said, "The Missouri State Medical Association opposes the three “medical” marijuana ballot questions that will be offered to Missouri voters in November. MSMA acknowledges there are a limited number of patients who may receive limited relief from minor pain and nausea, but numerous studies have identified negative health effects for a large number of diagnoses. Until the DEA reclassifies marijuana to allow extensive scientific research, MSMA remains concerned Missourians will be gambling with their health using an unregulated drug.
 
muleface

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Bodyne said:
6 flowering plants, 18 if caregiver but that room has to be under lock and key. You can have I believe a 1/4 lb to 1/2 lb at residence, considered two months supply, you can get 4 oz a day from the clubs. There is no mention of how many babies.

Missouri State Medical Association said, "The Missouri State Medical Association opposes the three “medical” marijuana ballot questions that will be offered to Missouri voters in November. MSMA acknowledges there are a limited number of patients who may receive limited relief from minor pain and nausea, but numerous studies have identified negative health effects for a large number of diagnoses. Until the DEA reclassifies marijuana to allow extensive scientific research, MSMA remains concerned Missourians will be gambling with their health using an unregulated drug.
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I was curious how that worked, thanks for the info, so if i can have 6 in flower, do you think i could get setup where i could be legally harvesting a plant every week indefinitely? I am setup to grow 36 plants
 

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Bodyne

Bodyne

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muleface said:
I was curious how that worked, thanks for the info, so if i can have 6 in flower, do you think i could get setup where i could be legally harvesting a plant every week indefinitely? I am setup to grow 36 plants
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perpetual, try to stagger after the initial group, not sure per week, but per month is more realistic to me. I pop seeds, or cuts, get em goin, then keep poppin or plantin after they veg up to a month. Or end up doing 12/12 from seed, and after a month, plant some more. If your strains are relatively quicker finishers, the first group you'll pull at 8 weeks, give or take and have a lil more than usual, then each month, give or take a week after that, you be pulling 1-3 out for harvest and filling those open spots with previously started seeds or clones. rinse and repeat. Keep the rotation going. You won't pull lbs at a time, but hopefully you won't run out, waiting till the end of the month. lol. Good luck maing, new day in this neck of the woods. Ive already gotten a list of a couple of drs behind the movement, just waitin till Dec 6. Peace and karma
 
HitemwiththeHine

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Bodyne said:
perpetual, try to stagger after the initial group, not sure per week, but per month is more realistic to me. I pop seeds, or cuts, get em goin, then keep poppin or plantin after they veg up to a month. Or end up doing 12/12 from seed, and after a month, plant some more. If your strains are relatively quicker finishers, the first group you'll pull at 8 weeks, give or take and have a lil more than usual, then each month, give or take a week after that, you be pulling 1-3 out for harvest and filling those open spots with previously started seeds or clones. rinse and repeat. Keep the rotation going. You won't pull lbs at a time, but hopefully you won't run out, waiting till the end of the month. lol. Good luck maing, new day in this neck of the woods. Ive already gotten a list of a couple of drs behind the movement, just waitin till Dec 6. Peace and karma
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Bodyne, where are you getting info about this from?
 
Bodyne

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But, according to a key official with the group that backed Amendment 2, patients will be protected when the amendment takes effect on Dec. 6.

Dan Viets is a Columbia-based attorney who is president of New Approach Missouri and a longtime NORML activist.

He cautioned that "prescription" is not really an accurate term for the document that gives patients legal protection to use marijuana under Amendment 2.

"'Certification' is the correct term," Viets said. Doctors will provide patients with a document allowing marijuana use if the patient has been diagnosed with one or more of a list of diseases listed in the amendment. Patients can also get a marijuana certification to treat another "chronic, debilitating or other medical condition" that's not on the list if the doctor believes it's appropriate, Viets said."On Dec. 6, if a patient has such a document, that patient is protected in terms of possessio.
 
Bodyne

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Missouri is likely to have 192 medical-marijuana dispensaries by 2020, backers of Amendment 2 said Thursday in a conference call for news outlets.

But, they said, anyone who doesn't possess a "qualifying patient card" for medical cannabis won't be allowed to set foot inside.

New Approach Missouri spokesman Jack Cardetti said the Show-Me State's medical-marijuana system was modeled in part on medical marijuana laws in Colorado and Oregon, "when they just strictly had a medical-marijuana law
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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With Amendment 2 passing on election night, it's now up to the state and the Department of Health to implement it.

Missouri became the 31st state to legalize marijuana for medical purposes, with Amendment 2 getting approval on November 6.

Chip Sheppard is a board member for "New Approach Missouri", who ran the campaign, who says their patient and veteran-centered approach will be a positive for everyone involved.

"Getting them off opiates for pain relief and getting them on marijuana, a lot of which is not psychoactive, but will help them with the pain relief. There will be about $20 million a year that will go to health care for veterans, and workforce development for veterans," says Sheppard.

That money will be generated from the 4% tax revenue on marijuana, but first, it has to be implemented.

"It is going to be highly regulated by the Department of Health, and they will be regulating everything about it. Under our constitutional amendment, it's mandated deadlines for the Department of Health. So the Department of Health has to hit certain marks, and if they hit all those marks then we'll have medicine by next Christmas, or next January. We are 13, 14, 15 months away," Sheppard says.

Once things are up and running, an M.D. or a D.O. will have to certify that you have one of the qualifying conditions.

Sheppard rattles off a short list of qualifying conditions.

"Any sort of chronic pain. Pain that keeps you from working, pain that keeps you from really being able to enjoy life. PTSD, Epilepsy, MS, Parkinson's, all kinds of mental disorders, chemotherapy," says Sheppard.

Once certified by a doctor, patients send the report to the Department of Health, who will issue a patient card that can be used at dispensaries.

Patients can buy marijuana, infused products, or plants for home growing.

Those plants are subject to inspection from the Department of Health.

"They would buy a six-inch plant, they would leave the dispensary with -- 6 six-inch plants would be their maximum," Sheppard explains.

Mercy and CoxHealth tell KOLR10 that doctors will work with patients to determine what treatment is best, and the hospital systems will follow the framework laid down by the state.

We also reached out for a statement from Dr. Brad Bradshaw with Amendment 3, which failed to pass.

He declined to comment.

Below is a timetable for applicants provided to KOLR10 by Missouri Cannabis Consultants LLC for the deadlines on implementation.

It also includes license fee schedules for dispensaries, cultivation facilities, and infused products-manufacturing facilities.

TIMETABLE FOR APPLICANTS

Dec. 6, 2018: Effective Date of New Approach Missouri Constitutional Amendment (Amendment 2)

Feb. 1, 2019: Counties in the State of Missouri will be notified of the number of Permits for Dispensaries

March 8, 2019: Deadline for DHSS (Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services) to have all application forms available for all prospective licenses (cultivation, dispensary, infusion-extraction, patient, patient home cultivation, and primary caregivers)

May 7, 2019: Deadline for DHSS to begin accepting applications for all licenses and ID cards

June 6, 2019: Deadline for DHSS to have approved or denied all applications submitted on or before the May 7, 2019 deadline (denial letters must be within 30 days of submission)

Oct. 4, 2019: Deadline for DHSS to have approved or denied applications for cultivation, dispensary, and infusion-extraction facilities that submitted applications on the earliest day allowed (150 days to approve or deny applications)

LICENSE FEES

Dispensaries

  • $6,000 non-refundable application fee per license application
  • Licenses are valid for 3 years
  • License fees are $10,000 annually per facility
  • All applications and renewals are $6,000 within first 3 years of effective date and are $3,000 thereafter
  • Application & License fees will increase or decrease annually by the percentage of increase or decrease of the CPI (Consumer Price Index) from end of previous year
  • No more than 5 dispensary licenses shall be awarded to any group or entity
  • Each facility in operation will require a separate license
  • Only 24 dispensary licenses shall be rewarded in each of the 8 congressional districts for a minimum of 192 dispensaries statewide
  • Future changes to districts shall have no impact
Cultivation Facilities

  • $10,000 non-refundable application fee per license application
  • Licenses are valid for 3 years
  • All applications and renewals are $10,000 within first 3 years of effective date and are $5,000 thereafter
  • Application & License fees will increase or decrease annually by the percentage of increase or decrease of the CPI (Consumer Price Index) from end of previous year
  • No more than 3 cultivation licenses shall be awarded to any group or entity
  • Multiple licenses can be utilized in a single facility
  • Only 1 license shall be awarded per 100,000 people minimum with a state population of 5,988,927 from 2010 Census (Equates to 59 cultivation licenses minimum shall be awarded)
  • An increase in the 2020 Census will have significant impact as more licenses become available. A decrease in census numbers shall have no impact
Infused Product-Manufacturing Facilities

  • $6,000 non-refundable application fee per license application
  • Licenses are valid for 3 years
  • License fees are $10,000 annually per facility
  • All applications and renewals are $6,000 within first 3 years of effective date and are $3,000 thereafter
  • Application & License fees will increase or decrease annually by the percentage of increase or decrease of the CPI (Consumer Price Index) from end of previous year
  • No more than 3 Infused Product-Manufacturing Facility licenses shall be awarded to any group or entity
  • Each facility in operation will require a separate license
  • Only 1 license shall be awarded per 70,000 people minimum with a state population of with a state population of 5,988,927 from 2010 Census (Equates to 85 cultivation licenses minimum shall be awarded)
  • An increase in the 2020 Census will have significant impact as more licenses become available. A decrease in census numbers shall have no impact
 
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