Heisenbeans Genetics

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bionicthumb

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dstroy said:
Well, standing on the shoulders of something of great height WOULD make you tall. Literally.

Also, he said he smokes it but it’s for his wife. That’s fine, I grow for my wife too and use her opinion to choose what goes or stays because it was never for me.

I just think it’s funny that you think you can own a plant like you’ve got lobbyists like Monsanto or something changing laws so you can “protect your IP”. It’s not yours and it never will be, you’re just borrowing it for now. Now, if you did some gene editing then you could patent those genes or methods but not the naturally occurring genes in the plant.

I really don’t even understand why “the scene” is getting so upset that someone decided they were going to start selling other peoples shit. Breeders are majorly fucking price gouging small time growers. I don’t care about the story of your genetics, I care about the medicinal effects. If you’re going to charge me $300 for medicine but I can get the same thing for $30 what do you think I’m gonna do. The same thing you would. Get the best for the cheapest you can find just like everyone else too.

Just because they were working the shit while it was illegal still doesn’t make it more valuable TO ME. I’m legal. I’m glad they were putting in the work but be realistic. Literally anyone (I guess if you were a complete mouthbreather you couldn’t) can follow a guide and select plants for breeding, but not everyone has the space.

So I’m paying a premium for your time and space, which is not worth $300 to me, because I know how much effort it takes to grow. It’s not even worth $100 to me because I know how many seeds you can get out of one plant. Literally printing money.

I’m so tired of this argument. People will always choose the best that they can get for the cheapest. Always.

I bet you have tons of stuff made in China in your house, but you didn’t stop to think about how you were giving money to China instead of just being happy that you got decent quality inexpensive goods.

I don’t care what happens, but his thread is entertaining.
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change your tampon.....u whine like a girl
 
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boybelue

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dstroy said:
Sorry, not sorry.
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I kinda agree with you, and ive been on the fence about it a long time. My feelings now are , they sold it made there money , I bought it, its mine I can do whatever I want with it. I know with copyrights and all it gets more complicated but i decided to look at it the simplest way I can. People do the same with other crops.
 
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boybelue said:
I kinda agree with you, and ive been on the fence about it a long time. My feelings now are , they sold it made there money , I bought it, its mine I can do whatever I want with it. I know with copyrights and all it gets more complicated but i decided to look at it the simplest way I can. People do the same with other crops.
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Silly to think u can copyright nature
 
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boybelue

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Yodaweed said:
OG raskal just copyrighted white fire og.
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No shit? Shows how much I keep up! I thought the reason he wasn't gonna make the wifi beans was hermie issues or something. Thats crazy , so hows that gonna work? Ok to pass the cut around just can't make beans?
 
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Amos Otis said:
So who's weed are you burning? Personally, I only get high on my own supply....seems stupid not to, though that's not aimed at anyone, just in general. You got tents of weed, you get high, but.....oh, nevermind....:rolleyes:
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Yep. I mean, for me, the whole reason I started growing in the first place was to have access to the best weed available... for myself.
 
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Yodaweed said:
OG raskal just copyrighted white fire og.
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Not the "strain" just the name. I'm sure it'll help him with his merch.
He's a little late though. WIFI OG, GG4, and GSC have been selfed so many times its impossible to know what you have unless you get it direct from the breeders hands...and even then, mistakes have been known to happen. cough>Chemdog<cough

Others may not agree but selfing someone elses line for profit is shitty. Sellers need to do their own outcrosses if they want to be relevant and maintain any kind of integrity.
 
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Tangerine_ said:
Not the "strain" just the name. I'm sure it'll help him with his merch.
He's a little late though. WIFI OG, GG4, and GSC have been selfed so many times its impossible to know what you have unless you get it direct from the breeders hands...and even then, mistakes have been known to happen. cough>Chemdog<cough

Others may not agree but selfing someone elses line for profit is shitty. Sellers need to do their own outcrosses if they want to be relevant and maintain any kind of integrity.
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This ^^ and I am not gonna start a rant. I just said its not how I would do it. I do think there are certain respectful ways to go about this stuff and not violate "industry" standards. Self away though, whatever Its not my gear.
 
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Tangerine_ said:
Others may not agree but selfing someone elses line for profit is shitty. Sellers need to do their own outcrosses if they want to be relevant and maintain any kind of integrity.
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What the hell are you doing here? [ :eyesmoke: ]

many years ago when living in tiny Hee Hawville, TN, as an outsider, I found it hysterical when a WalMart supercenter opened in a town up the road. My brother-in-law at the time, a local, was complaining at a holiday gathering about how WalMart was gonna put the local grocer of many years, E W James, out of business because [James] couldn't match the prices of corporate WM.

I asked him......"so where do y;all buy your groceries?". W/o hesitation, he said "WalMart, 'cause they're cheaper, but that don't mean that it's right."
 
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Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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Stiickygreen said:
So I see the talk is that the cut Heisn has is "jbeezy's" cut. What about the other guys out there tossing out F2's's and crosses of "Wedding Cake?. Are these from the same cut? Oni, (Beach Wedding), Seed Junky's F2's(<<is SJ jbeezy?)" f2....and their many other crosses with "Cake" in the tag?

And these as well:

3 In The Pink » Triple OG x Wedding Cake
Crem Cake » Crem Dela Crem x Wedding Cake
Just wondering if this cut you are reversing is different than what I already have in seed form from other folks that is called "Wedding Cake".
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Alot of breeders share cuts,Its the business,Keeping up with all of it is a job in itself.I went through 3 fake ones before i got the real one.Cost me alot of wasted money and time.

Im very greatful i met a guy in Oregon thats the coolest dude i ever met.We talk on the phone.The dude is connected and thats all i have to say about that.


The Wedding Cake that everyone is after is the Trianglemints3 that was grown by jungle boys.Jbeezy is a seed breeder.He owns Seedjunky Genetics.He also distributes his seeds through horror seeds.A US seedbank.
Jungleboys grew Trianglemints3 and it was named wedding cake at there dispensary by the customers.
I got all this from jbeezys instagram straight from him.Not in one post but pieced together.


The Cherry pie cross you see mentioned is actually Birthday Cake and i have no clue where to get it.
The wedding cake #4 is a rediculous cut also and hopefully i can aquire that one also.

I do know from watching Instagram that most of everything i see crossed with Jbeezys original Trianglemints3 is pure straight fire.Its a serious plant for putting out fire ass genetics.I also know theres a ton of fake cakes going around so before long it will be like GG4.Lots of S1s and crosses but the original will end up being like a unicorn or pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
 
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Heisenbeans

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Yodaweed said:
OG raskal just copyrighted white fire og.
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If that is true it is BS IMO.I heard straight from rascals mouth arguing with Koma the other day that he did NOT find white fire OG.He got a cut from the florida Triangle and had it in his garden.

He said straight up it was the best OG cut he had in his garden so he renamed the cut to Fire OG and started using it to create WIFI and others,but that cut was basically OG KUSH that alot of people already had.Several people watching the feed heard him say it and comments after wards were funny.

The Wifi is known for throwing balls and i wont be using any White or Wifi clones in anything ever in the future.
 
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boybelue

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Tangerine_ said:
Not the "strain" just the name. I'm sure it'll help him with his merch.
He's a little late though. WIFI OG, GG4, and GSC have been selfed so many times its impossible to know what you have unless you get it direct from the breeders hands...and even then, mistakes have been known to happen. cough>Chemdog<cough

Others may not agree but selfing someone elses line for profit is shitty. Sellers need to do their own outcrosses if they want to be relevant and maintain any kind of integrity.
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It's really just about respect right? There's no set rule against it? Ive had somebody copy my paint scheme. Pissed me off. Thats where I'm kinda divided, I don't agree with trying to get rights to a plant but at the same time I don't like copycats. Idk maybe its ok as long as your not taking away from their profits, cause people make money off other people's work all the time, in every aspect of life.
 
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Heisenbeans

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boybelue said:
It's really just about respect right? There's no set rule against it? Ive had somebody copy my paint scheme. Pissed me off. Thats where I'm kinda divided, I don't agree with trying to get rights to a plant but at the same time I don't like copycats. Idk maybe its ok as long as your not taking away from their profits, cause people make money off other people's work all the time, in every aspect of life.
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Well Jbeezy didn't discover Triangle Kush or Animal Mints but hes using both of them and used them to create wedding cake.He did not even find the wedding cake,Jungle boys did from a large pheno hunt using his gear.
This is what breeders do.

Every person on this thread that has chucked pollen will have someone somewhere find a fire ass keeper in there gear and it will be given a name.It dont make it your property.
 
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