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Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
shits happening tomorrow.

it's pre-game showtime..:wink:

the russians are predictable and show prior every time..aren't you into patterns? i know i am- still working on those unabomber cyphers.
Yeah, I am into patterns. I have noticed one that occurs 100% of the time: if a pro-Trumper comes by and is nice to you, you will befriend them and defend them.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
everyone is ENTITLED to an opinion..whether or not it's accepted, is another subject.
Yup. Though from an objective position, some opinions are worthless. Yours are worthless because you put yourself before any other consideration. "Nazi, yeah sure, but he's nice to me!"

You can have whatever opinion you want, that doesn't mean anybody sees it as valid. Ask your ex and your children, ask your Facebook "friends", they'll back me up on this.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I doubt we are ever going to get the perfect candidate that everybody agrees with when it comes to every bit of policy.





These are things most would back though


Health
Living wage
edu
jobs
Infrastructure repair
criminal justice reform
immigration
You're right; we won't 'get' that candidate; we'll have to fight for them.

The moment people start talking about left vs right, Democrat vs Republican, they're lost. It's about the issues and until Americans are willing to fight for issues they care about, nothing here will come.

You want to see change? Look at France. You can bet your ass the government there is making changes right now, because the French people got off their asses and fought for it.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Practically all Democrats in the House and Senate vote in favor of progressive issues more than 80% of the time. The few who vote for progressive causes less than 80% of the time are leagues better than any Republican in national office today. All were elected by people who chose them over very conservative right wingers.

Is that what you are trying to say?
So how do you explain the fact that average Americans still don't have decent healthcare, retirement, education or living wages?

You can't, because you willfully ignore the truth.
 

tangerinegreen555

Well-Known Member
So how do you explain the fact that average Americans still don't have decent healthcare, retirement, education or living wages?

You can't, because you willfully ignore the truth.
What do you think they'd have if there was only the republican party since Herbert Hoover? A cardboard shack?
 

tangerinegreen555

Well-Known Member
A revolution, just as our Founding Fathers expected.

Frankly, Americans are fucking lazy political tribalists and it's going to bite us soon- hard.
Sounds bloody as fuck to me.

As though you can match firepower with the government. They use SWAT teams for marijuana plants for fucks sake.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Sounds bloody as fuck to me.

As though you can match firepower with the government. They use SWAT teams for marijuana plants for fucks sake.
You'll get no argument from me there, man. Having seen it up close, I'm acutely aware of the suffering involved.

I'm not advocating for revolution; it's too late for that.

Education and protest are the best hope we have left and neither looks particularly likely, though I would dearly love to be proven wrong on this.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
You are not going to win a lot of republicans or independents over by pushing progressive policy..
This is flat wrong. Bernie went on a speaking tour of red States and was able to show that the majority of Republicans, to say nothing of Independents, were heavily in favor of progressive issues.

You are confusing tribalism with specific positions, a common error the establishment would very much like you to keep making.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
This is flat wrong. Bernie went on a speaking tour of red States and was able to show that the majority of Republicans, to say nothing of Independents, were heavily in favor of progressive issues.

You are confusing tribalism with specific positions, a common error the establishment would very much like you to keep making.
Lol. You are a brainwashed useful idiot.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Cult of Sanders are authoritarian and want to rule rather than govern.
Your senility is advancing; both Republicans and Democrats are passing legislation supporting authoritarian rule and you come along and play opposite day.

Lazy! And stupid.
 
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