NEVER!!!
That's too vague for me to even try and answer. I don't think it's worth getting into all the details of why you could have drawn that conclusion, unless you are genuinely interested for us both to elaborate.Where have you seen a better overall quality in new tech led is better then hid bud. Ive noticed the opposite.
Where would one find a '66 Hemi 'Cuda?I went all LED years ago. Less heat, no lamp replacements, lower energy bills, strong growth, amazing frost.
HID still works, kinda like your old '66 hemi powered 'Cuda; it will still get you there, it just takes a lot more gas and maintenance.
All forums have fanboys, just be glad you aren't one of em. I put zero stock in what the QB fan club says.You can tell who the led trollers are on this site, never objective, always putting others down, never want to discuss light spectrum or ppfd even though they say it every other sentence.
What a bunch of tools, as soon as you say "led is better" you should note that most of us who arent here to troll think your a 'TOOL'.
Not my type of member sorry and others shouldnt allow them in here ruining what use to be a cool infomational site.... Sad
Its never going to be once and for all, either you belive the site who have given an objective run down of lights ppfd and spectrum or you believe the trolls who only have one answer which is 'led is the best at everything'.....60+ posts later
are we any closer to once and for all?
I didnt and pointed out where ppfd is vastly flawed and how they do not know what perfect spectrum is for any plant pkus their spectrum is so full of holes it makes hid look like the future not led.All forums have fanboys, just be glad you aren't one of em. I put zero stock in what the QB fan club says.
Its never going to be once and for all, either you belive the site who have given an objective run down of lights ppfd and spectrum or you believe the trolls who only have one answer which is 'led is the best at everything'.....
Only a dumbass would not see the answer, sorry are you still asking.....?
Weed is meant to be more peace love and unity, look at these led tools trolling so hard it creates arguments, sad as fuck reqlkyYa my first post in this thread could have ended it. I was the first to reply to op and predicted the end result lol
Here we are, 70-80 posts in and still going lol
ppfd, lumens, par.......abstract terms if you aren't a scientist.
Look at the plants, I say. Give them what they need (water Ph'd in soil Ph'd) with lots of light. If ya see a deficiency fix it.
Anything else spouted is bullshit.
Ya you suck at hps, weve been there beforeBeing a 30 year HID grower the only time I run my HID's anymore is in winter.
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Dude i take my last comment back, how insensitive, you suck at both led and hps, got anything more green less anemic and didnt struggle so much....?Being a 30 year HID grower the only time I run my HID's anymore is in winter.
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With your exp you could use strictly CCFL lighting and get a decent crop.....just would take 30+ days longerBeing a 30 year HID grower the only time I run my HID's anymore is in winter.
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Might have to be a '67!Where would one find a '66 Hemi 'Cuda?
I've used them all except the CDM 315's, but I've used the 330 CDM on HPS ballast many years ago.With your exp you could use strictly CCFL lighting and get a decent crop.....just would take 30+ days longer