diggs99
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Yes , for right now, these new lights will be for flower room only.
Still have my 600w MH ill use to veg room for foreseeable future
Buy it or DIY it?
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Still have my 600w MH ill use to veg room for foreseeable future
rob333
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led lover lol 600 bucks to build one or 82 bucks from ebay for a mag ballast 600w hps which u would no will pull more then 2 ounces
diggs99
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Thats what im currently using
600w MH/HPS
electricity cost a fortune here, trying to be long term efficient. I have seen the threads about hps vs led, this isnt one of them, i know HPS grows DANK, but i think LED or cobs will fit my needs and environment better.
rob333
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just get another hps or mh mate cmh are killa and led will not match a cmh in a million years
rob333
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by the time u get the lights u need u are gunna be saving bout 30-60 bucks on a power bill dude i live in south aus we have the highest power costs in the world yet i am fine to pay my bills
rob333
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cant even buy leds if i wanted 2 no hydro shop here stocks em not 1 u ask about leds they laugh u out the door
diggs99
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Thats good info , thanks
I have been swaying towards the cobs/leds for a few different reasons, mainly electricity costs and heat concerns i think i will have every month except winter months.
I did have a good look at the cmhs and 1000w de tho, but as you said, theres reasons to chose other lighting.
rob333
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same thing everyone says to hot well a hps only run 10c hotter and to costly well chose another hobby then maybe meth cooking ?
rob333
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but you will get better run from a cmh 630
they only run at 4-6 c hotter
diggs99
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I have bigger plans ahead rob
eventually my room will have 4 x these lights running, maybe more depending on circumstances, right now my 600w hps costs me 100.00 a month
4 x 1000w hps will cost alot more to run than 4 x 1000 led.
yes the upfront cost will hurt, but if i go diy route i can cut that down and then make up that difference after a few crops running the more efficient leds/cobs.
Thats my reasoning any, not that you care, just thought id share it with you anyway.
diggs99
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Ya which is why they too are on the short list of lights i have been looking at
I have read alot of good things about the cmh and have not ruled them out yet either. But that dont mean im not gonna do my due diligence and research all of the lights and make sure i get what i want and it fits what i need.
im not a loyalist to any light, they all grow great weed, i really think some people need to chill on the light loving and start giving the growers more credit themselves.
A Good grower will grow under any light and make it perform.
BigHornBuds
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100W F-Series strips, https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SI-B8VZ91B20WW/1510-2229-ND/6676693
480W dimmable driver, https://www.digikey.ca/products/en?keywords=HLG-480H-48A
Datasheets for the engineer,
480W dimmable driver, https://www.digikey.ca/products/en?keywords=HLG-480H-48A
Datasheets for the engineer,
Airwalker16
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You'll only need 600w of high Umols/joule LED to put out what a 1K Single ended HPS does PPFD wise.
So youll only need 2500watts or so for what 4x1K HPS would throw down.
diggs99
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Thanks very much for those links. that just made my life easier lol, i was having trouble even finding the correct strips.
so my next question.
If i buy 10 of the strips, how many strips will that driver run? i assume i will need 2 or 3 drivers? is that correct?
Thank you to all of you for helping me with this. very much appreciate it.
Airwalker16
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When you use Constant Voltage drivers, the total power is split amongst however many strips there are. So you'd wanna use something like the HLG-600H-48A.
Airwalker16
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Why are these hinflux so much cheaper?
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SI-B8VZ91B20WW/1510-2229-ND/6676693
diggs99
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Ok that made sense to me lol
So if i want to build them same wattage as the timbers 800-950watts
how many strips and which driver will i be using?
Sorry for what must seem like ridiculous questions to you guys, i wasnt lying when i said i didnt know much about this lighting stuff. I do know efficiency tho and ive seen the bud these lights grow, so its worth asking dumb questions lol
Airwalker16
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Well the HLG600 is 600 watts so another 320 would be 920. I'd just build 2 fixtures though using 5x 4ft strips per build and throw an HLG600 on each one. You get a discount on Digikey once you get to 10+ anyways. So that is $508 for the 10 strips, $349 for the drivers and maybe $100 for the frame and everything else you'd need, totalling like $950.
That's if strips are you're choice.
Go with COBs though and use citizens at $10-15 a piece, I can hook you up with an Alibaba seller who can get you Pin Fin heatsinks for cheap. You just need to order like at least 20.
That way you could get all the lighting engine components for like $250-300 in cobs and $300-350 for drivers, and $150 for sinks totalling $700-800.
Those are both for building TWO 600watt fixtures. So less than the cost of 1 pre-built.
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diggs99
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Thats all Canadian prices you listed?
Ya if you could link me up with someone from alibaba ill def have a look. I am open to any and all suggestions as long as the end result is building a light thats equivilant to the timbers
Do you have a link to the cobs you would use? ill be honest, whenever i look at any of these parts all i see is numbers lol