CannaBruh
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...hence why i flush...
I'll leave it to you to parse out which growth is which and what not... best of luck
when do i harvest/flush?
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I'll leave it to you to parse out which growth is which and what not... best of luck
3rd Monkey
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I didn't mean any offense, just trying to wrap my head around it. It is preference, I agree there. Ah well, to hell with it.
CannaBruh
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Weird analogy time.
Gay man likes dick in mouth. Straight men say no bueno. Gay man like it tho. Straight men like the pink cookie. Guess what, in both cases mofos getting off. Find your preference and ignore the haters.
3rd Monkey
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Way to break up the monotony lol.
I don't think that analogy applies particularly.
More like a guy bulking up for a marathon and then drinking nothing but water for a week prior to the marathon. His body will consume itself.
Anyhow, I digress and will leave it at preference before I get another gay analogy lol.
Dr. Who
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Ok, lets go over this a bit.
#1: Flushing is a myth.....don't! You might drop the nutes to zero with about a week to go. IF your in a solid media. .There is enough left in the media to carry you out.
...Hydro? Just run them out. PROPER CURING is the key to smoothness! Hundreds of years of tobacco work has basically, perfected curing!
#2: I agree with the scoping guys. They look well bulked and the calyx's are swollen nice. "I" might go a tad farther by sight but, I have not run those strains. That makes a world of difference - knowledge!
#3: You over did the N. Dark green leaves- The bad part? They are shiny dark green. That inhibits THC concentrations by limiting trich production.
#4: Color increase. This is a plant response to the drop in temps during late bloom in nature. You can increase coloring by decreasing night time temps.. If you can, dropping to 60 F at night does wonders for this... Hard to do in warm climates and the summer up north.
Increasing K can help BUT, too much increased K, lowers THC production.
I just have to comment on this one-
And those who actually have schooling in the growing sciences....DO NOT!
Where did this "Flushing" idea come from?
Well, it most likely came from a logic thought..
Back in the day, even the old school Columbian's and high end Mexican weeds were cured by the old school out door hanging methods - in sheds with an open wall were one's I saw went touring both countries in the late 70's and early 80's....These tasted great.
I can just see a cpl of old hippies, sitting on a log. Smoking some just dried in 6 days shit they grew. 1 says to the other, "Man, that's harsh and tastes bad,. What can we do to fix that?"
The other looks over and thinks a bit....Then says, "Yup, pretty harsh and bad taste. I wonder if it's the fertilizer in the plant we give it to grow? Maybe if we stop feeding it with 2 weeks to go it will get better."
First one says, "Yup, good idea. Lets do that!"
They had no idea what the science of the plant, or any flowering plant was back then, No idea about the bulking stage and just how important that is.
Now it's just a money grab by those who make "flushing agents" to "flush" the nasty shit from your plant"
Sorry, you can not "flush" nutrient ions from a plant. They don't work that way.
Fading, doesn't either! The plant simply takes from one area and moves it right to where your trying to remove it from! It's trying in a last ditch effort,,,,to reproduce before it dies from lack of nutrition!
Magazines (generally full of BS anyway) can't tell the truth! If they did, advertisers would bail on them in droves! You see, magazines make their money by advertising!! NOT by selling the mag's.
You got questions, ask away..
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Dr. Who
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In growing plants, especially in this case.....
It's not preference...It's SCIENCE!
BOTTOM LINE!
Odd comparison, but effective...you made.
3rd Monkey
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CannaBruh
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I challenge anyone to put to practice feed to end vs flush and find your preference. All of the arguing ends there.
Or be like straight people trying to convince gays to convert...
For every page long rant posted about 'science' note there's ZERO citations for actual clinical studies... in other words, you be the clinic, do you own research.
Or be like straight people trying to convince gays to convert...
For every page long rant posted about 'science' note there's ZERO citations for actual clinical studies... in other words, you be the clinic, do you own research.
3rd Monkey
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I'm not trying to convert gays. They'll breed themselves into extinction lol.I challenge anyone to put to practice feed to end vs flush and find your preference. All of the arguing ends there.
Or be like straight people trying to convince gays to convert...
For every page long rant posted about 'science' note there's ZERO citations for actual clinical studies... in other words, you be the clinic, do you own research.
Dr. Who
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3rd Monkey
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I don't have a like button so it was the best I could do.
Kingrow1
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You would have to assume water is not a solvent for all nutrients in your medium and along with cation capacity your going to create big imbalances by flushing.
A deficient plant has less chlorophyll, more the concept other than nitrogen but nitrogen is a link.
I would assume flush products dissolve all nutrients for a more proper flush but i am not up on them profucts.
A deficient plant has less chlorophyll, more the concept other than nitrogen but nitrogen is a link.
I would assume flush products dissolve all nutrients for a more proper flush but i am not up on them profucts.
Dr. Who
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But why would there be?I challenge anyone to put to practice feed to end vs flush and find your preference. All of the arguing ends there.
Or be like straight people trying to convince gays to convert...
For every page long rant posted about 'science' note there's ZERO citations for actual clinical studies... in other words, you be the clinic, do you own research.
Name me ANY other crop, especially one smoked, that is flushed?
NONE!
Why would anyone, especially some post grad student. Ever want to do any kind of work on something that is, universally in the agriculture industry, not done?
Look, I have NO animosity towards you. But, your logic train of thought is not working!
Lastly, You might look to work done in the EU (GB, Switzerland) and Israel. This is where the research into the plant and it's plant science is being done in any detail.
I say search GOOGLE scholar for papers on "flushing".... You won't find any. There is no need to research what has been explained (debunked) by existing science..
Bruh, sometimes I think your a shill for a nutrient company.... The way you defend flushing....
Defending choice in this? Better to be truthful in a scientific way....,
Hey, I respect your work too..Don't take this personal....
We are holding our ground and giving our best to debate the issue ,,, Eh?
CannaBruh
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looking at you Dr WHo
lots of accusations, why not put to practice what you claim and claim some free seeds
*full disclosure, I own several companies, none of which are cannabis related or have any relevance to the cannabis industry
another page long rant and not ONE fucking citation brother... what scientists does this?
Dr. Who
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Few more posts and you will have it..
3rd Monkey
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Thanks. Started on grass city. They have it from the start lol. I'll catch up with you and others.
CannaBruh
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I have half a dozen Symbiotic Mimosa of the same cut in bloom now. I'll feed one to the end to experiment along with whomever takes up my challenge. 250 beans for finishing the project regardless of which way your opine sways at the end of the experiment.
Intent is to demonstrate efficacy in flushing. Because it cannot be demonstrated that it DOESN'T work. If you think you can demonstrate that flushing doesn't work, I challenge you to do so with some plants and show within this thread you know with some actual skin in the game.
Intent is to demonstrate efficacy in flushing. Because it cannot be demonstrated that it DOESN'T work. If you think you can demonstrate that flushing doesn't work, I challenge you to do so with some plants and show within this thread you know with some actual skin in the game.
3rd Monkey
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I'll do it just because but my seeds are just popping. Gonna be a while. No bets or anything but I want to see if there's a difference for myself. Luckily I planted extras lol.