EXCUSE ME?!..**The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2020 Thread**

Budley Doright

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But would those jobs have gone to people and families in Queens area? The economic benefit to the region is undeniable but the benefit to the people in Occasio Cortez's district is reasonably questionable. For example, Amazon's explosive growth and high wages to very well educated people is causing a housing crisis for long time residents of Seattle as housing prices are pushing them out of the market. One of the sticking points in the negotiations with Amazon was a lack of commitment to train and hire locals. Other issues is traffic and parking not addressed, corporate welfare to a hugely profitable company and higher volume added to a sagging public transportation system. It could very well be that Cortez is serving the people of her district and not the corporations.

In a country where companies can go wherever they want and demand perks for their moving into a state or city, New York may well be a loser in all of this. I can see how long term this all might backfire on the region but there is another side to the story. The people of Queens weren't all that convinced the move was in THEIR interest. If the company had come to Queens to be a member of the community rather than faceless company that made demands to lure them there the outcome might have been different.

Not arguing or even disagreeing with you, just saying there is another side to this story.
I was very proud of Toronto’s stance when the whole “pick me” thing was going down. Basically said if you want to come we’ll welcome you but no tax breaks. Should charge them more for the extra infrastructure required IMO.
 

Sativied

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You're right and I probably didn't think my above post all the way through. I always count on you to give a thorough explanation of things. I didn't realize that Amazon wasn't committed to hire locals, now it makes some sense to me why AOC might have been bitter towards Amazon
Besides that, it would be giving her waaay too much credit to suggest it was all be because of her. That’s just propaganda from the right and even the intimidated center.
 

Shua1991

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Sanders/Yang seems like the winning ticket. Jeep the discussion on policy, discuss future unemployment caysed by self-driving cars, automation will cause loss of millions of jobs within the next decade, pass something similar to Universal basic income to solve the problems.
 

Shua1991

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You realise google searches are reliant upon your search history? Like when republicans thought there was a bias against conservative because they only googled negative content in the past and the algorithm spat back what it though they wanted to see. You're really exposing yourself here more than anything.

It's not magic that your ad-stream always has 'magic mike live' adcerts all over it. Its all the algorithm. My search didnt show a warren ad.
 

UncleBuck

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Sanders/Yang seems like the winning ticket. Jeep the discussion on policy, discuss future unemployment caysed by self-driving cars, automation will cause loss of millions of jobs within the next decade, pass something similar to Universal basic income to solve the problems.
Bernie Sanders sucks
 

tangerinegreen555

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Sanders/Yang seems like the winning ticket. Jeep the discussion on policy, discuss future unemployment caysed by self-driving cars, automation will cause loss of millions of jobs within the next decade, pass something similar to Universal basic income to solve the problems.
You figure the Democrats will have over 60 senate seats in 2020?

One can only hope but he'll never get anything through congress anyway.

I can hear it now, "Free healthcare, college and a universal check for everyone and Mexico is going to pay for it."
 

schuylaar

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how is Sanders planning on paying for all his stuff..? -CABLE NETWORKS

the same way the Tax Cut for the Wealthy was paid for- in reverse.

everyone still loving their tax refund?

if Beto doesn't announce i'm predicting he has agreed to become Sanders' VP..anyone want part of the action?
 

Shua1991

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You figure the Democrats will have over 60 senate seats in 2020?

One can only hope but he'll never get anything through congress anyway.

I can hear it now, "Free healthcare, college and a universal check for everyone and Mexico is going to pay for it."
nobody said it will be easy, complacency is what gave us trump(that and billions of dollars in free publicity 24/7 from every news network, great job on that one ) so we have to fight to drag the Overton window leftward. Universal healthcare is popular even amongst republican voters, majorities of both parties support it.
 

schuylaar

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I don't know why any companies need an enormous tax break, I kind of just figured that's the cost of doing business, you know give and take
they don't- that's the whole point..most have negative effective tax rates and pay ZERO for the roads you haul on. next time you get stuck because of some shitty un-repaired road or can't go under a bridge because it's too low from being so old needing to be updated, you can thank those who you haul for.

what did you spend your tax refund on?
 

Shua1991

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Vast majority of money saved by corporations thanks to the tax cuts didnt in fact be reinvested in wages or new employment, billions went toward stock buybacks, which keep stock prices inflated beyond their actual value. I dont think taxing every thing under the sun is the solution but smart taxation is the key to a working welfare system and social mobility. We have to finally have the discussions about redistributing wealth.
 

schuylaar

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nobody said it will be easy, complacency is what gave us trump(that and billions of dollars in free publicity 24/7 from every news network, great job on that one ) so we have to fight to drag the Overton window leftward. Universal healthcare is popular even amongst republican voters, majorities of both parties support it.
having our choice taken away with the coronation of Pickle Queen- who polled within error margin and NOT Sanders who polled +20 against Bad Orange Man is how it happened..
 
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