EXCUSE ME?!..**The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2020 Thread**

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Shua1991 said:
Sanders/Yang seems like the winning ticket. Jeep the discussion on policy, discuss future unemployment caysed by self-driving cars, automation will cause loss of millions of jobs within the next decade, pass something similar to Universal basic income to solve the problems.
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Are you a proponent of "gun control" ?
 
londonfog

londonfog

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schuylaar said:
i'm just going by what black people here in broward tell me..more than half my riders are black and they have plenty to say: they LOVE Sanders.

any idea when Pada will be back?
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Bernie will still have a hard time with the black vote with the likes of Kamala and Cory running. Will you again be blaming blacks for Bernie not winning and do you also think a person with the name of Kamala will ever be CEO ?

I could not care less when Pada returns. Why??? do you want to send pada a pic of something being spread with duct tape ?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Shua1991 said:
You keep bringing up black voters as if they're the ones we need to worry about losing, they see the orange man in the oval office. That's all you need to motivate the democratic base. I'm looking to get independents, first time voters, jaded people looking to shake up the democratic party and to hold the rest accountable. We shouldnt have democrats voting to confirm judges for trump, the republicans play dirty, its time to play dirty too. Dont confirm their judges, any of them.


As fucked up as this sounds, I spent a fair deal of time(5 years) in a group home and saw all kinds of kids come and go, and I spent more time in black foster homes than Latino(like myself) or white families. I noticed something very distincive about each group. Older Latinos and Hispanics tend to be brainwashed by catholicism, highly superstitious, while younger generations are free to experience greater integration and blending of American and foreign cultures. The same for black communities with slight variations. I lived in with either Haitians, Jamaican or straight African American. Similar stuff, the more "African" as far as identity (rather than "American") among the black communities also tend to fall for alot of superstitious cultural hangups brought on through various forms of religious indoctrination(fear of magic/voodoo/tarot). I've been to black Israelite temples(cults) and heard crazy shit from racist NOI cultists. These people arent progressive, they aren't even liberals in many cases they are social conservatives looking to form black identitarian and seperatist movements. I wonder if you know.anything about Hotep, or any other cults within the black community who have no interest voting for democrats. I had a married couple (40+) from haiti tell me the earthquake and disaster in haiti was caused by punishment from god for gay marriage and homosexual sin. I heard this from an adult speaking to me with a straight face. We cannot address these cultural differences without really reassessing our entire educational system and designing one that promotes critical thinking, science, inquiry and inference. These are the tools we can teach children to use to scrutinize their public officials when they come of age. We need an entire cultural revolution to occur in this country. It doeant have to be bernie Sanders who spearheads the effort, but he took the job. I prefer policies that prevent needless suffering causes by health/disease, lack of education and training that leads to low skill work and poverty or a life of breaking your back for measly pay. Policy proposals in favor of marijuana legalization are a good start, back in 2016 bernie was again, ahead of the curb in campaigning on removing cannabis from schedule 1 and then taking a look at the sweeping psychedelics act of 1964. Not many people had the balls to say that aside from libertarians. I know kamala harris used to prosecute teanagers for pot and truancy(missing school). She made criminals out of the impoverished rather than fighting for school funding, the tough on crime stripes shine true...
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Yup That's a pretty fucked up view of minority voters. Not surprised about what you said. As I said before you are dismissive of black people. Turns out dismissive of Hispanic people too. This is a common trait of Sanders supporters. Among other things.

I'm looking for a leader who doesn't write whole groups of people and their concerns off. I think most people in the Democratic Party are. You've just explained very well why Sanders followers don't care about that.

Sanders is OK, but he's not adequate. H'es good for Vermont, though.


 
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schuylaar

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londonfog said:
Bernie will still have a hard time with the black vote with the likes of Kamala and Cory running. Will you again be blaming blacks for Bernie not winning and do you also think a person with the name of Kamala will ever be CEO ?

I could not care less when Pada returns. Why??? do you want to send pada a pic of something being spread with duct tape ?
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i didn't blame black populace.

kamala's history as prosecutor and jailing first time offenders will be a negative. she's a self-proclaimed 'capitalist' and has a donor list other than grassroots- cory too.

like i said they are vying for VP of the primary winner whoever that becomes.

if it's Sanders, i believe he already made a deal with Beto, which is why Beto said he'll make his announcement by the end of the month (8 days). I believe Beto's announcement will be that he's not seeking the presidential.

Pada is brilliant and a loss to our debate group- something happened and it's been communicated to me, he's been banned- i've learned quite a bit from him and a shame he's no longer here.
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
Yup That's a pretty fucked up view of minority voters. Not surprised about what you said. As I said before you are dismissive of black people. Turns out dismissive of Hispanic people too. This is a common trait of Sanders supporters. Among other things.

I'm looking for a leader who doesn't write whole groups of people and their concerns off. I think most people in the Democratic Party are. You've just explained very well why Sanders followers don't care about that.

Sanders is OK, but he's not adequate. H'es good for Vermont, though.
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ummmmmm, he's hispanic, fool.:oops:

Jesus..you didn't learn to read with all those useless degrees?
 
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schuylaar

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Shua1991 said:
You keep bringing up black voters as if they're the ones we need to worry about losing, they see the orange man in the oval office. That's all you need to motivate the democratic base. I'm looking to get independents, first time voters, jaded people looking to shake up the democratic party and to hold the rest accountable. We shouldnt have democrats voting to confirm judges for trump, the republicans play dirty, its time to play dirty too. Dont confirm their judges, any of them.


As fucked up as this sounds, I spent a fair deal of time(5 years) in a group home and saw all kinds of kids come and go, and I spent more time in black foster homes than Latino(like myself) or white families. I noticed something very distincive about each group. Older Latinos and Hispanics tend to be brainwashed by catholicism, highly superstitious, while younger generations are free to experience greater integration and blending of American and foreign cultures. The same for black communities with slight variations. I lived in with either Haitians, Jamaican or straight African American. Similar stuff, the more "African" as far as identity (rather than "American") among the black communities also tend to fall for alot of superstitious cultural hangups brought on through various forms of religious indoctrination(fear of magic/voodoo/tarot). I've been to black Israelite temples(cults) and heard crazy shit from racist NOI cultists. These people arent progressive, they aren't even liberals in many cases they are social conservatives looking to form black identitarian and seperatist movements. I wonder if you know.anything about Hotep, or any other cults within the black community who have no interest voting for democrats. I had a married couple (40+) from haiti tell me the earthquake and disaster in haiti was caused by punishment from god for gay marriage and homosexual sin. I heard this from an adult speaking to me with a straight face. We cannot address these cultural differences without really reassessing our entire educational system and designing one that promotes critical thinking, science, inquiry and inference. These are the tools we can teach children to use to scrutinize their public officials when they come of age. We need an entire cultural revolution to occur in this country. It doeant have to be bernie Sanders who spearheads the effort, but he took the job. I prefer policies that prevent needless suffering causes by health/disease, lack of education and training that leads to low skill work and poverty or a life of breaking your back for measly pay. Policy proposals in favor of marijuana legalization are a good start, back in 2016 bernie was again, ahead of the curb in campaigning on removing cannabis from schedule 1 and then taking a look at the sweeping psychedelics act of 1964. Not many people had the balls to say that aside from libertarians. I know kamala harris used to prosecute teanagers for pot and truancy(missing school). She made criminals out of the impoverished rather than fighting for school funding, the tough on crime stripes shine true...
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jaded? boy did you come to the RIGHT place:lol:
 
Boberman

Boberman

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What's really gonna be funny is when he runs as an independent because the democrats screwed him the last time.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
ummmmmm, he's hispanic, fool.:oops:

Jesus..you didn't learn to read with all those useless degrees?
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I learned to read before I got the degrees. I also listen when somebody tells me who they are.

"black communities also tend to fall for alot of superstitious cultural hangups brought on through various forms of religious indoctrination(fear of magic/voodoo/tarot)"

"Older Latinos and Hispanics tend to be brainwashed by catholicism, highly superstitious, while younger generations are free to experience greater integration and blending of American and foreign cultures."

You keep bringing up black voters as if they're the ones we need to worry about losing, they see the orange man in the oval office. That's all you need to motivate the democratic base.

Yep, no sign of being dismissive of minorities in those quotes from Shua. I totally agree that Sanders is continuing with his strategy of pandering to white voters and dismissing minority voters and women's rights issues. .

As I said before, I want somebody who is inclusive and will be a good leader for civil rights and minority issues as well as issues that affect everybody. Sanders simply isn't that person.

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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
I learned to read before I got the degrees. I also listen when somebody tells me who they are.

"black communities also tend to fall for alot of superstitious cultural hangups brought on through various forms of religious indoctrination(fear of magic/voodoo/tarot)"

"Older Latinos and Hispanics tend to be brainwashed by catholicism, highly superstitious, while younger generations are free to experience greater integration and blending of American and foreign cultures."

You keep bringing up black voters as if they're the ones we need to worry about losing, they see the orange man in the oval office. That's all you need to motivate the democratic base.

Yep, no sign of being dismissive of minorities in those quotes from Shua. I totally agree that Sanders is continuing with his strategy of pandering to white voters and dismissing minority voters and women's rights issues. .

As I said before, I want somebody who is inclusive and will be a good leader for civil rights and minority issues as well as issues that affect everybody. Sanders simply isn't that person.

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@Shua1991 was telling you about HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCES with these groups..how is that dismissive?

if it were up to you, Sanders wouldn't be a contender- but it's not and you see something that's not there.
 
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schuylaar

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@londonfog @Fogdog

i walked into a public restroom today (Wa-Wa) and a black girl was in there taking selfies in front of the sink and mirror- i just needed to wash my hands.

she said 'there are only two', when i looked at the two stalls that were occupied both with sinks to wash.

i had no idea why she said that since i could easily see there were two occupied stalls.

what do you think she meant as i was eyeing the sink she was taking her selfies in front of, with her ass hanging off?
 
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