Feeding???
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well you don't really need the bottom 2 for now if your learning. i don't foliar feed for specific reasons so i cannot give my 2cents on that type of use but generally you want to go with the general feeding.
if you give the exact nutrient your using i can give you a better idea. i see it is fox farm but they do have different products. this is the one i used https://www.google.com/search?q=fox+farm+feeding+schedule&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS693US693&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=mABzyhOSPCnFcM%3A%2Cf3tbtApVPMITWM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSqYL2VYtggA0JfWWHEWMwJ5F9Stw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjprajzwPngAhWvCTQIHQenDzIQ9QEwAXoECAQQBg#imgrc=zw8x8Wh57ot5DM:&vet=1
it is Teaspoons per gallon 3 teaspoons (tsp) = 1tbs ( tablespoon ) you need to read because they have different feeding schedules some state in tablespoons.
based on that chart i can tell you 100% DO NOT!!! follow that chart. 6 tsp is WAY TOO MUCH AND WILL CAUSE NITROGEN TOXICITY. i would start at 1/4th strength and work your way up if you see defiencies with no sign of nitrogen toxicity. 1/2 is already too much. in your case i would play it safe and go 1/2tsp - 1tsp and see what happens. 2-3tsp will likely cause issues eventually depending how much your feeding.
i strongly suggest you let use know exactly what your feeding like i said fox farm has different products we need the products name. if your feeding big bloom you can easily run 2-3tsp that is basically just like a compost tea pretty much.
if you want to see how feeding can affect your plants check out my current grow in my signature i feed a different line AN ( advanced nutrients ) but i fed 1/4th at first and feed every watering just as an experiment then it eventually got nitrogen issues so i dropped everything to 1/8th. then i eventually had to drop feeding from every watering to every other watering. it's just what im experimenting with others might have better advice on how to feed more properly but just my 2cents. trust me though it is extremely easy to over feed your plants. thus why i don't suggest anything over 1/4th. as you grow more then you basically just understand and make up your own feeding schedule and toy like what i am currently doing.
i only have experience with fox farm big bloom and grow big. the big bloom isn't too harsh on the plants but the grow big is as the big bloom NPK values are extremely low.
if you give the exact nutrient your using i can give you a better idea. i see it is fox farm but they do have different products. this is the one i used https://www.google.com/search?q=fox+farm+feeding+schedule&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS693US693&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=mABzyhOSPCnFcM%3A%2Cf3tbtApVPMITWM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSqYL2VYtggA0JfWWHEWMwJ5F9Stw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjprajzwPngAhWvCTQIHQenDzIQ9QEwAXoECAQQBg#imgrc=zw8x8Wh57ot5DM:&vet=1
it is Teaspoons per gallon 3 teaspoons (tsp) = 1tbs ( tablespoon ) you need to read because they have different feeding schedules some state in tablespoons.
based on that chart i can tell you 100% DO NOT!!! follow that chart. 6 tsp is WAY TOO MUCH AND WILL CAUSE NITROGEN TOXICITY. i would start at 1/4th strength and work your way up if you see defiencies with no sign of nitrogen toxicity. 1/2 is already too much. in your case i would play it safe and go 1/2tsp - 1tsp and see what happens. 2-3tsp will likely cause issues eventually depending how much your feeding.
i strongly suggest you let use know exactly what your feeding like i said fox farm has different products we need the products name. if your feeding big bloom you can easily run 2-3tsp that is basically just like a compost tea pretty much.
if you want to see how feeding can affect your plants check out my current grow in my signature i feed a different line AN ( advanced nutrients ) but i fed 1/4th at first and feed every watering just as an experiment then it eventually got nitrogen issues so i dropped everything to 1/8th. then i eventually had to drop feeding from every watering to every other watering. it's just what im experimenting with others might have better advice on how to feed more properly but just my 2cents. trust me though it is extremely easy to over feed your plants. thus why i don't suggest anything over 1/4th. as you grow more then you basically just understand and make up your own feeding schedule and toy like what i am currently doing.
i only have experience with fox farm big bloom and grow big. the big bloom isn't too harsh on the plants but the grow big is as the big bloom NPK values are extremely low.
MoreSessLessStress
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It also depends what you’re growing in also. If you are using a soil that already has an NPK value higher than 0-0-0, you have to account for that and pull back on whatever that bottle of nutes is in the picture. If you are using RDWC or another hydro method, then you don’t have to account for nutrients already in the media because there shouldn’t be any. I used to use fox farm ocean forest soil and advanced nutrients when I first started and I burnt my plants up the first go around. Give us some info on what you’re using as media and we can give you better information.
yea that is true as well. i think if OP wanted to go further i read something about how indica's feed more then sativa's not sure if that is true or how to really calculate that information based on strain as i have no knowledge pertaining to that but i would leave that later down the road or more towards the advanced growers to say if this is true and how to approach it if you want to go more in depth with feeding. same with EC meters i have no experience with using EC meters or what you should feed based off it if you later plan to go down that route.
JJSG
Member
I got fox farms big bloom, grow big and tiger bloom, I'm also using canna coco, I would of messed them up straight away if I didnt post on here.
with the big bloom you can feed full strength easily but i would go half strength. with the grow big don't even try to go half strength start at 1/4th. i am pretty sure the feeding chart i gave you is based off the general feeding schedule so basically half of 6ml is 3ml and half of 3ml is 1.5ml which is 1/4th. if you want to play it more safe go 1/8th and half the 1.5ml but if your not feeding so often like i did then 1/4th should be okay. same with tiger bloom i wouldn't run anything above 1/4th strength for starting.
a little goes a LONG way. it is better to under feed then to over feed because it's harder to fix nitrogen toxicity problems due to the fact that it will eventually lock out nutrients giving you a headache. safest way to start i would think is Feed, Water, Feed. if you start seeing signs of nitrogen toxicity do less feedings like Feed, water, water.
JJSG
Member
Can you show me something with PPM per stage? I'm going to get a PPM metre
i don't mess with PPM i only run PH meter and i have some experience with TDS but not when it comes to growing cannabis. use TDS for my RODI 4 stage system for salt water aquariums at my house. i think you can buy a 2 in 1 meter with both PPM and PH i got the blue lab PH meter only but i know they sell another one its like a combo for like $250 i think.
the ONLY things that really help me identify how to feed right now based on my own experience is from over feeding so often after a while you kinda tell what to look out for and how to fix it. i've asked people on here for help as well plants looked like shit but no shame in asking
JJSG
Member
Oh right thanks for the info though mate helped alot
I gotchu.
You want to start feeding low, dirty water. I start feeding around 3rd week after it pops the ground with really just a drop or two per litre....
Then you go up to 600-800ppms during veg.
Then you go up to 900ppm when you switch to flower....
When in full bloom aim for 1000-1100ppm..... However every plant is different so don't pay attention to the instructions on the bottle, pay attention to what the plant says.
You can guesstimate PPMs by the EC of the solution on the bottle. There are conversion charts you can use.....
Keep a log of how often you are feeding, how much PPMs, how often you water, all that...per plant when you start out.... if you notice something off go back to the log... don't rely on your memory... it won't work....
JJSG
Member
Thanks mate much appreciated