Roger A. Shrubber
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too bad there's not more of a sense of community, some of the growers who didn't sustain major damage could cough up a few mothers...
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SSGrower
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Not sure this is the community's responsibility.
IDK if it makes any difference if its hemp for cbd extraction or hemp for fiber?
Either way, im not sure there are high number of these big producers, maybe a few hundres in the state? And I wouldnt necissarily blame then for making the business decision not to donate, partner with on the other hand.... I also think when you bite off a chunk, you better be able to chew and swallow it, thats harsh but whats to say if these guys got up and running they wouldnt fuck it up down the line. Life is rough learn from mistakes and carry on. Though they may not have done anything wrong other than putting all their eggs in one basket, but that might not be the case either...its business now that fact wont change.
SSGrower
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Our growing season is short enough in co 100-120 days it may be necessary to start early even if going from seed, relates to growing outside of natural habitat. Wonder if this is why they went with clones? Was this one good for the environment or special in some other way? Either way you're still right.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i'm not saying it's anyone's responsibility...i'm saying it's sad that there is no sense of community among weed growers, even if they're commercial weed growers. i find it sad when the "business ethic" invades my life, even to this extent.
now that it's a business, you don't have friends anymore, you have competitors, you don't help out a friend in need anymore, you take advantage of a competitors problems to better your own situation...and that is sad
lokie
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Winos looking out for one another.
https://woodinvillewinecountry.com/grape-generosity-washington-winery-helps-out-when-virginia-vineyard-loses-crop-to-thieves/
Grape generosity: Washington winery helps out when Virginia vineyard loses crop to thieves
“The industry truly cares about what happens to their neighbors,” said Vicky Scharlau, executive director of Washington Winegrowers
https://woodinvillewinecountry.com/grape-generosity-washington-winery-helps-out-when-virginia-vineyard-loses-crop-to-thieves/
Grape generosity: Washington winery helps out when Virginia vineyard loses crop to thieves
“The industry truly cares about what happens to their neighbors,” said Vicky Scharlau, executive director of Washington Winegrowers
Roger A. Shrubber
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that's what i'm talking about...that is what weed growers should be like, not greedy little shits taking advantage of a fellow growers misfortuneWinos looking out for one another.
https://woodinvillewinecountry.com/grape-generosity-washington-winery-helps-out-when-virginia-vineyard-loses-crop-to-thieves/
Grape generosity: Washington winery helps out when Virginia vineyard loses crop to thieves
“The industry truly cares about what happens to their neighbors,” said Vicky Scharlau, executive director of Washington Winegrowers
SSGrower
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Agreed, to a point.
Unless you are a total ass hat you should have friends, the business part of things makes it easier to distinguish friend/competitor/ass hat.
Gonna jump to the conclusion these guys will produce something this year, it's not gonna be what they had hoped, but they damm well should have understood the risk going in.
SSGrower
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Good people.Winos looking out for one another.
https://woodinvillewinecountry.com/grape-generosity-washington-winery-helps-out-when-virginia-vineyard-loses-crop-to-thieves/
Grape generosity: Washington winery helps out when Virginia vineyard loses crop to thieves
“The industry truly cares about what happens to their neighbors,” said Vicky Scharlau, executive director of Washington Winegrowers
Roger A. Shrubber
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my question is if it's a good setup, why are you selling it? selling a good, money making business always makes me wonder why....For sale Hydroponic Greenhouse setup $220,000
Fully operational and income producing from day one.
This Hydroponic system was built in 2017 by Crop King Inc.
An interesting proposition until you consider Va. is only now getting used to medical marijuana.
There is at least one other reason that I can think of that makes commercial cloning a poor choice. (From Wikipedia)
Panama disease (or Fusarium wilt) is a plant disease that infects banana plants (Musa spp.). It is a wilting disease caused by the fungus Fusarium oxysporum f. sp. cubense (Foc). The pathogen is resistant to fungicides and until now, its control is limited to phytosanitary measures.[1] Although a transgenic banana cultivar that proved resistant to Panama disease has been recently developed,[2] it is not commercially available yet.
During the 1950s, a first outbreak of Panama disease almost wiped out the commercial Gros Michel banana production. The Gros Michel banana was the dominant cultivar of bananas, and Fusarium wilt inflicted enormous costs and forced producers to switch to other, disease-resistant cultivars. Currently, a new outbreak of Panama disease caused by the strain Tropical Race 4 (TR4) threatens the production of today's most popular cultivars, Cavendish.
Roger A. Shrubber
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all true, but Fusarium wasn't a problem till people started selectively breeding bananas for larger, sweeter fruit. the natural interbreeding that happened in the wild was enough protection to keep fusarium a localized problem that usually went way in a few years, when enough resistant pollen blew through an area to "vaccinate" the local population. growing vast tracts of genetically manipulated bananas was like an incubator for fusarium
Diabolical666
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Its hemp not weed. And there is about 5 hemp farms in the area and thry are all chummy with each other. Will they help him get back up and going..? Doubt it. 1. I think he woukd be embarrassed to ask. 2. I think those hemp farms could have had their own problems 3. Why help the competition? 4. Hey "bro..can I take 500,000 clones from ya?"
Even if it was just a handful of clones to get back up and going, he still wouldnt make it.
Even if it was just a handful of clones to get back up and going, he still wouldnt make it.
Pretty much the way they told it in Costa Rica where it hit really in the 50's - they told us the major issue was that since the entire plantation (100's of thousands of acres) were clones then they were essentially the "same plant" and what killed one, killed all.
So we outsmarted the disease & switched to the Cavendish strain yet continue to clone to propagate hence the Panama disease's resurgence.
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I agree. This is business, there should be reserves or insurance.
BudmanTX
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damn that sucks, from the looks they had some great mothers in there too...........i feel for them...
be nice to see the other farmers in the area to help them out and get them going again, would be a nice gesture all around...
Roger A. Shrubber
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....kind of... it shouldn't, a clone is a complete genetic copy of its "mother". it should have the complete genome of the parent, and stay that way through progressive generations, but i know from both personal experience, and the shared experience of other growers, that clones from the same strain eventually lose vigor, and start to grow slowly, and exhibit more defects over time. a 10th generation clone (taken from a clone, taken from a clone) will likely look and grow very differently from 1st and 2nd generation clones...which doesn't make sense to me. it's not like a xerox machine, it's direct passage of an entire genome.
ANC
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That is where the problem lies, as it completely ignores many of the genes of the mother's sisters and aunts.
This is how a landrace becomes a fragile indoor only plant