Repirations for slavery

[Fogdog]

This might be a dumb question and I'm only asking because I'm curious. What about people who are 50% African and 50% white? At what point is the % not high enough to receive reparations?

It's a fair question. Not just 50:50 either. What about people with some white rapist in their lineage? Does one drop of white blood make a claim invalid? Also your question about who pays is fair.

But all of that is jumping to a solution, it seems to me. First we need to settle on an objective. I think this whole thing is confused because people haven't thought this through.

 

[UncleBuck]

This might be a dumb question and I'm only asking because I'm curious. What about people who are 50% African and 50% white? At what point is the % not high enough to receive reparations?

depends

were their ancestors enslaved?

that's the only question here

 

[TacoMac]

It ain't only the brothas that getting screwed.. Its a poor vs rich

That is something that Dr. King and Malcolm X both discovered as well.

I remember John Lewis telling the story about Dr. King's tour in Tennessee. One morning they noticed a bunch of whites gathering, far more than usual. Lewis, Jackson and others were concerned that they were there to start trouble and advised Dr. King to give it a miss.

But Dr. King being Dr. King, he went out to speak anyway.

Turns out all those whites who FAR outnumbered the blacks that had gathered were all poor farmers and workers. They sat quietly and listened.

That's when Dr. King was struck with the revelation that it was much more rich vs. poor than black vs. white.

After that, Dr. King wanted to schedule more gatherings in predominantly white neighborhoods. His thought being that if the poor and oppressed of all colors united, then nothing could stop them.

Sadly, blacks hated Dr. King for it. They were of the opinion that Dr. King worked for them and nobody else.

Rich whites hated him for it too, because they realized King was right.

They killed him for it.

Divide and conquer; it's been the strategy of those in power for centuries.

It still works like a charm to this day.

 

[squarepush3r]

don't go shooting up any black churches, david duke.

pipe down son, educate yourself about the jewish role in the transatlantic slave trade before you try to lecture what "white people need to do".

victim ??? Naw just a man that would like to see some wrong being right.
I see a racist POS like yourself for what it really is. I'm sure nature will correct her wrong. Would be better if idiots like you did before being force to...remember you come form me . I would explain but then I would have to explain carbon, elements ,melanin and molecules shit to ya. You are not bright

You live in the wealthiest country in the world, even working a minimum wage job here means you are in the top 5% of the worlds wealthy, you are crying about your "reparations" LOL
Get your dusty ass off the couch and get a job! there are your reparations right there! But, if you are able to convince anyone stupid enough to give you your free money, then go for all, all power to you, good luck with that.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

It's a fair question. Not just 50:50 either. What about people with some white rapist in their lineage? Does one drop of white blood make a claim invalid? Also your question about who pays is fair.

But all of that is jumping to a solution, it seems to me. First we need to settle on an objective. I think this whole thing is confused because people haven't thought this through.

polite applause...
people haven't thought this through...
who pays? who gets paid? what form does the payment take? and what stops a large percentage of white people from forming the attitude that now "we're all even, you got paid."...when reparations solves absolutely zero existing problems?

 

[Fogdog]

polite applause...
people haven't thought this through...
who pays? who gets paid? what form does the payment take? and what stops a large percentage of white people from forming the attitude that now "we're all even, you got paid."...when reparations solves absolutely zero existing problems?

You are jumping to a solution again. This is quite common so it's OK. What you are doing is just putting up roadblocks by claiming "it" is not possible when we haven't even said what "it" is.

What's the objective and what problem are we trying to solve? Maybe we should start with that.

 

[Fogdog]

pipe down son, educate yourself about the jewish role in the transatlantic slave trade before you try to lecture what "white people need to do".


You live in the wealthiest country in the world, even working a minimum wage job here means you are in the top 5% of the worlds wealthy, you are crying about your "reparations" LOL
Get your dusty ass off the couch and get a job! there are your reparations right there! But, if you are able to convince anyone stupid enough to give you your free money, then go for all, all power to you, good luck with that.

Oh look, the Trumptard is being a bigot again.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

You are jumping to a solution again. This is quite common so it's OK. What you are doing is just putting up roadblocks by claiming "it" is not possible when we haven't even said what "it" is.

What's the objective and what problem are we trying to solve? Maybe we should start with that.

i didn't say anything was impossible...i asked pertinent questions...do you have answers? i'm perfectly willing to listen. seriously...define "it" for me. suggest some guide lines. i personally don't think it's a god idea, but a lot of things i think are bad ideas still happen...if it's going to happen, i'd like a solid decent plan in place before it goes forward....
has anyone asked black people what they want? what they would find acceptable? all i've heard so far is a bunch of not black people talking about shit they know not much about....which seems a little.....racist?....to me....like we have to make a decision for them....maybe we should let women make the decisions about abortions, and the minorities make the decisions about reparations....¿

 

[Fogdog]

i didn't say anything was impossible...i asked pertinent questions...do you have answers? i'm perfectly willing to listen. seriously...define "it" for me. suggest some guide lines. i personally don't think it's a god idea, but a lot of things i think are bad ideas still happen...if it's going to happen, i'd like a solid decent plan in place before it goes forward....
has anyone asked black people what they want? what they would find acceptable? all i've heard so far is a bunch of not black people talking about shit they know not much about....which seems a little.....racist?....to me....like we have to make a decision for them....maybe we should let women make the decisions about abortions, and the minorities make the decisions about reparations....¿

"oh its going to cost"

Too funny you can't even read your own posts.

Now you are talking as if black people haven't said anything. Do you know any black people who are telling you what they want? How about @londonfog ? Go back and read his posts again with an open mind.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

"oh its going to cost"

Too funny you can't even read your own posts.

Now you are talking as if black people haven't said anything. Do you know any black people who are telling you what they want? How about @londonfog ? Go back and read his posts again with an open mind.

i wasn't even aware he was black...i've had him on ignore for a long time, and occasionally reply to a post of his i see when i "show ignored content"....
what do you mean "oh its going to cost"? the financial implications are meaningless to me...the biggest problem i have with this has nothing to do with black people...i forsee many, many white people using this as a reason to ignore minority issues. "they've been paid off for that, done deal, move on."...without fixing anything...without fixing pay inequity, without even mentioning institutionalized racism, without even attempting to fix anything..."we settled that debt, get over it"...that is my concern...not whatever you imagine it is...the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and you're a fucking truck full of hot tar

 

[TacoMac]

i wasn't even aware he was black...i've had him on ignore for a long time, and occasionally reply to a post of his i see when i "show ignored content"....

Ditto.

It's clear he's an angry person whose views are limited to two words: white privilege.

Outside those two words, he has no thought process of any kind.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i don't know about that...like i said, i've had him on ignore for a long time...he doesn't seem stupid, but he does seem pretty one track....

 

[TacoMac]

i don't know about that...like i said, i've had him on ignore for a long time...he doesn't seem stupid, but he does seem pretty one track....

It's the only argument he's used in this thread. I've seen him use it against other blacks as well. It's literally the only argument I've ever seen him put forward and the reason I put him on ignore to begin with.

 

[UncleBuck]

pipe down son, educate yourself about the jewish role in the transatlantic slave trade before you try to lecture what "white people need to do".


You live in the wealthiest country in the world, even working a minimum wage job here means you are in the top 5% of the worlds wealthy, you are crying about your "reparations" LOL
Get your dusty ass off the couch and get a job! there are your reparations right there! But, if you are able to convince anyone stupid enough to give you your free money, then go for all, all power to you, good luck with that.

Are you David dukes whiny crying daughter?

 

[Fogdog]

i don't know about that...like i said, i've had him on ignore for a long time...he doesn't seem stupid, but he does seem pretty one track....

It's the only argument he's used in this thread. I've seen him use it against other blacks as well. It's literally the only argument I've ever seen him put forward and the reason I put him on ignore to begin with.

LOL, you two old white men have been shutting down voices that have done nothing but give you an alternative viewpoint.

Maybe you should just start your own forum. We'll call it the old white dudes forum where you can shit on everybody else for disagreeing with you. Maybe it should be the white tears club.

I'm open to suggestions.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's the only argument he's used in this thread. I've seen him use it against other blacks as well. It's literally the only argument I've ever seen him put forward and the reason I put him on ignore to begin with.

London is smarter and more successful than both of you

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

LOL, you two old white men have been shutting down voices that have done nothing but give you an alternative viewpoint.

Maybe you should just start your own forum. We'll call it the old white dudes forum where you can shit on everybody else for disagreeing with you. Maybe it should be the white tears club.

I'm open to suggestions.

sure, you can be the guest shitter...anyone who doesn't agree with you is an old white bigot...you can be on loan from the "deluded snowflake club"

 

[Fogdog]

sure, you can be the guest shitter...anyone who doesn't agree with you is an old white bigot...you can be on loan from the "deluded snowflake club"

More white tears.

Too funny that.

 

[Fogdog]

London is smarter and more successful than both of you

Shrubs asked what black people were saying on this issue and he shut London down when he told him.

Oh and London is the "angry black man" according to Taco.

Typical old white guys are not used to being disagreed with.

 

[BurtMaklin]

Here's a suggestion, how about everyone refrain from using racial stereotypes completely when conversing about contentious issues. When people use terms like "angry black man", "typical old white man", "white privilege", "white tears", etc... it just elicits an emotional response and in no way validates anyone's point of view, and does more to derail an actual conversation than anything else.