DankTankerous
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CF= Cubic Feet?
Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s
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Or_Gro
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CF=correction factor
StickyBudHound
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Nice hedge Brosephus! Nothing but nug on every branch. They're gonna be some serious frickin monsters!
Or_Gro
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Thanks man...a couple pistil flushes should make hedgephus maximi...
Lol...looks like alerts weren’t working...
StickyBudHound
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Nope, alerts are no more reliable on riu than they were on gc...
Lol, yeah you're looking at a solid wall in there.
Steakbomb
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Have you guys seen the new stuff from HLG?...
QB3
Https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb-3-far-red
Saber bar
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/search?q=Saber
QB144
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb144-v2-quantum-boards
Rumor has it there's a 288 w/ reds coming soon too... I can tell ya right now the 96-spectrum 288s plus some FR3s are looking mighty compelling for tent fixtures...
QB3
Https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb-3-far-red
Saber bar
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/search?q=Saber
QB144
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb144-v2-quantum-boards
Rumor has it there's a 288 w/ reds coming soon too... I can tell ya right now the 96-spectrum 288s plus some FR3s are looking mighty compelling for tent fixtures...
StickyBudHound
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I heard they were on the way but hadn't heard when to expect them. Hard to believe they can get better. I guess there's always room for improvement.
Steakbomb
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I heard w/in 2 weeks over on GC... It'll be a while before I'm ready for a new fixture - maybe by then they'll have v3s haha
WeedSexWeightsShakes
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Wife and little girl are doing great.
Dr said she thinks we will make the next appointment, which is next Thursday, but she isn’t so sure about the one after that.
So we got moving done just in time.
Actually just got done moving everything completely today.
Got the rental all cleaned up and we are done with that place.
Woo been going non stop since Saturday.
Finally chillin in the house sitting on the couch listening to music enjoying WiFi and RIU lol.
Or_Gro
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So happy to hear they’re doin fine...and your move is done...pat yourself on the back, dude...
Now get ready to fall in love...
Or_Gro
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Based on what i’m seeing at the moment 96 vs 288, the 96 spectrum is an improvement over the 288s...hlg will be well off to keep moving in that direction...
But these new prods are just incremental improvements, that i and others are already doing on our own, what they really need to do is to deal with controllability and scheduling.
Intensity is no longer an issue, spectrum can be jigsawed together...the gaping hole is how to control it all with minimal drivers, plugs, and timers...hopefully some simple, convenient, and affordable solutions will come to market soon.
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Or_Gro
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Day 32 from flip: First pistil flush going gonzo. The 96 tops are compleletly filled in lengthwise for about 5-8”, and pistils haven’t even started drying out. These plants are gonna be ridiculous cubes of cola-ation.
Gonna try to defol a little this weekend (not many fan leaves left in there, actually), and respread tops. Hopefully the oscillating fans, uv, and rh in upper 40s/low50s will keep pm at bay.
6x96
8x288
A little uvb damage on the green crack plant in the 96 tent (front right). Only on the most mature fan leaves. If this is the extent of damage from this week’s bump in uvb duration, next week i’ll bump another 1.5hrs, to 3/4 of full target.
Had hoped to do some more work with red lights this week, hlg sent lights but fucked up drivers (these guys just can’t get their act together). Will try again next week, hopefully...
Gonna try to defol a little this weekend (not many fan leaves left in there, actually), and respread tops. Hopefully the oscillating fans, uv, and rh in upper 40s/low50s will keep pm at bay.
6x96
8x288
A little uvb damage on the green crack plant in the 96 tent (front right). Only on the most mature fan leaves. If this is the extent of damage from this week’s bump in uvb duration, next week i’ll bump another 1.5hrs, to 3/4 of full target.
Had hoped to do some more work with red lights this week, hlg sent lights but fucked up drivers (these guys just can’t get their act together). Will try again next week, hopefully...
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StickyBudHound
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Steakbomb
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Agree on intensity, but I will say that not having to jigsaw things as much would result in fewer plugs.
I've also heard rumblings about samsung having an upgrade over the 301b chips soon with another 5-8% efficiency boost... Intensity is great, but more efficiency would be fantastic - more grams per watt!
Or_Gro
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Thanks man i’ll check it out.
Or_Gro
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But they aren't multi-channel, so for me it doesn’t help with tunabity & scheduling...
Wouldn’t change my lights for 5-8% efficiency.
Bottomline for me controlability is way more important than efficiency...(particularly at the yields current intensity gives)....
Or_Gro
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Harvested the sisters today, nice sized, hard, sticky buds. Three of the four strains, trimmed wet, weigh over 300g, so s/b around a qp per 4-gal bucket, under 3 96s w/o supplementation - simlar per bucket weight as the mothers.
Green Crack
Original Glue (GG4)
Trainwreck
Jack Herer
The Jack Herer has been a disappointment, maybe just this particular pheno, mother and daughters both have relatively smaller buds. We’ll see if training and more intensive mgt of the smackdown plants makes a difference.
I’ll post dry wts...
Or_Gro
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FYI re UVB:
@Randomblame mentioned the following:
“I had a good conversation about UV light BTW with a gardening scientist here at the locale university and he told me that the ratio UVB to UVA is also important for reptiles, plants and also for humans. We are all used to certain proportions of UVA and B and we need both in the right amounts to keep the protecting mechanisms working properly.
When one use for example more UVB than UVA that will causes cell damage to plants and cancer to humansand animals. Even vitamine D would be destroyed immediately without a certain amount of UVA.
Usually the natural ratio isaround 6:1 at ground level and up to 3:1 in higher regions.
Under this aspect the fuckin' Agromax pureUV bulbs are completely useless cause they have the opposide ratio anddeliver 3 times more UVB like UVA.(75:25%)”
@Randomblame mentioned the following:
“I had a good conversation about UV light BTW with a gardening scientist here at the locale university and he told me that the ratio UVB to UVA is also important for reptiles, plants and also for humans. We are all used to certain proportions of UVA and B and we need both in the right amounts to keep the protecting mechanisms working properly.
When one use for example more UVB than UVA that will causes cell damage to plants and cancer to humansand animals. Even vitamine D would be destroyed immediately without a certain amount of UVA.
Usually the natural ratio isaround 6:1 at ground level and up to 3:1 in higher regions.
Under this aspect the fuckin' Agromax pureUV bulbs are completely useless cause they have the opposide ratio anddeliver 3 times more UVB like UVA.(75:25%)”
Warpedpassage
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Thats good to hear, maybe they can start dropping prices on the older Samsung f series strips. Ill be more than happy with those “older” diodes if they bring the prices down some.