Oregon outdoor 2019

[max420thc]

There is way to many thieves. I live in Medford Oregon. But I grow indoors all year long. I hear people getting ripped off left and right

Meth addicts run wild all over the west coast, that's all tweekers do is steal .
They are millions of them, if they were just a small group it would be easy to solve their problem, but to many of them, unfortunately they now run the west coast, Its like the zombie apocalypse , remember, you have to hit the brain to stop them

 

[Chemically altered]

Meth addicts run wild all over the west coast, that's all tweekers do is steal .
They are millions of them, if they were just a small group it would be easy to solve their problem, but to many of them, unfortunately they now run the west coast, Its like the zombie apocalypse , remember, you have to hit the brain to stop them

Lol I remember the brain I have AR15 that should work fine.

 

[max420thc]

Lol I remember the brain I have AR15 that should work fine.View attachment 4333299

A buddy of mine moved to the Medford area(great grower ), first day when he pulled up to move in,he rented a motel ,he went inside left his car and Uhaul trailer in front when he went inside to pay for his room he come back out and his whole rig was gone and all he seen was the back of the uhaul and some tweakers drove off with everything he owned. Welcome to Oregon , if I gave you a nickel bounty for every zombie you shot in the head you would be a millionaire in a week in Oregon and northern California. Yea, it's that bad.

 

[Chemically altered]

A buddy of mine moved to the Medford area(great grower ), first day when he pulled up to move in,he rented a motel ,he went inside left his car and Uhaul trailer in front when he went inside to pay for his room he come back out and his whole rig was gone and all he seen was the back of the uhaul and some tweakers drove off with everything he owned. Welcome to Oregon , if I gave you a nickel bounty for every zombie you shot in the head you would be a millionaire in a week in Oregon and northern California. Yea, it's that bad.

Dam that sucks about your friend.

 

[Humanrob]

Damn, the weather did a 180. We had about three weeks of June in late-April early-May, and now we're back to regular May. I guess I'm not too old to be fooled by anomalous weather.

The question now is, should I take the babies in 1 gallon pots and set them up inside under lights until it warms up again, or just leave them be outside? This was supposed to be an ultra lazy no fuss grow year, so I'm tempted to leave them be... except that they're autos, and a couple of weeks of stunting them in nights in the 40's and days in the low 60's could seriously impact them.

Anyone else bringing theirs back inside?

 

[Chemically altered]

Damn, the weather did a 180. We had about three weeks of June in late-April early-May, and now we're back to regular May. I guess I'm not too old to be fooled by anomalous weather.

The question now is, should I take the babies in 1 gallon pots and set them up inside under lights until it warms up again, or just leave them be outside? This was supposed to be an ultra lazy no fuss grow year, so I'm tempted to leave them be... except that they're autos, and a couple of weeks of stunting them in nights in the 40's and days in the low 60's could seriously impact them.

Anyone else bringing theirs back inside?

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I would leave them. They should be fine. As long as it’s not pouring down rain.

 

[graying.geek]

Damn, the weather did a 180. We had about three weeks of June in late-April early-May, and now we're back to regular May. I guess I'm not too old to be fooled by anomalous weather.

The question now is, should I take the babies in 1 gallon pots and set them up inside under lights until it warms up again, or just leave them be outside? This was supposed to be an ultra lazy no fuss grow year, so I'm tempted to leave them be... except that they're autos, and a couple of weeks of stunting them in nights in the 40's and days in the low 60's could seriously impact them.

Anyone else bringing theirs back inside?

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I'm committed; my plants are already rooted in the garden. Unless temps look to fall much below 40'F I'd leave yours where they are also.

 

[Humanrob]

I would leave them. They should be fine. As long as it’s not pouring down rain.

I'm committed; my plants are already rooted in the garden. Unless temps look to fall much below 40'F I'd leave yours where they are also.

I like those answers, they maintain my goal of the least work possible on this grow. Thanks guys -

 

[petert]

I grew up in Oregon as a kid, it was a wonderful place then tl grow up, not as nice now as it was then,
There is a plant jist south of you grown in Trinity , mt Shasta area , it is a old school Mr Nice they have been growing for years there , because of the mountain they needed a plant that was fast and Bullet proof , well that's what Mr Nice is, fast and bullet proof , 4 lbs is easy for it to reach in 100 gallons , 100 people cpuld grow the same plant and it would taste and smell different for each grower, the better the grower the betfer it turns out of course , potent , lots of resin and crystals and you can not fuck up this plant. You really have to do something wrong to fuck this plant over. I think you could water it with battery acid and it would turn out fine and be productive.
If you Oregon growers can get a cut of it would be a good thing Mold and rot resistant . it's not a secret hard to get cutting , so easy to find and get.
Good luck everyone on your grows

I’ve been to 48 our our great states. Lived in three different states. Been in central Oregon since 72. You’d be hard pressed to find a more beautiful place to live!! Personally.. it’s just as good if not better than it used to be, lots and lots of changes in our small gorge town, but change is inevitable!
I’ll keep and eye out for that Mr. Nice cut.

Put My outdoor girls out last week!!! I’m on the east slope of the cascades, we’re about done with rain until late Sept!!

 

[max420thc]

I’ve been to 48 our our great states. Lived in three different states. Been in central Oregon since 72. You’d be hard pressed to find a more beautiful place to live!! Personally.. it’s just as good if not better than it used to be, lots and lots of changes in our small gorge town, but change is inevitable!
I’ll keep and eye out for that Mr. Nice cut.

Put My outdoor girls out last week!!! I’m on the east slope of the cascades, we’re about done with rain until late Sept!!

It is beautiful in Oregon, I have only been to one olace more beautiful in my opinion. Oregon was much more rural when i grew up there in the early 70s, you could hunt and fish and do about what you pleased to do , People where friendly and much more of a family and community then.
Then we got the California creeps , slowing edging their kind of stupidity into our culture , No my friend it has not gotten better but much much worse ,
A lot of the places I used to hunt and fish at is no longer allowed or over grown with houses ,
I am a american indian , its kind of what we like to do.
You will find the Mr nice around the Trinity area in the mountains , it is beautiful to drive , winding roads with large beautiful pine trees , there is another little town you could ask around about it called hay fork , do be careful as lots of meth addicts are in these parts , they wont hurt you , just steal everything you have so do not leave your car keys in the car, a few of the grow shops in the area can direct you to a cut i am sure,

 

[Humanrob]

I find that most natural things that are beautiful lose their beauty in direct proportion to the amount of "use" by humans. National Parks come to mind.

In the macro homo sapiens are like a cancer devouring the planet, in the micro there are individual people who are truly good to their core. Everything we are part of is the result of billions of years of evolution playing out particular algorithms, and either this huge most likely random experiment will succeed, or it will fail. As far as I can tell, as a set of biological parameters existing within a closed system, in geological time our future will be very short. But that's just how I see things, we all make up our own stories. If you're lucky you make up a happy one.

So, sort of on topic, Oregon is just another casualty of overpopulation of one dominant and destructive species. Other states are far ahead of us in that respect. I still love it here, and having seen most of this country, there is no place I'd rather be. In terms of growing pot, I'm glad it's legal, and our outdoor season gives us a lot to work with. Given our great -- if a bit short -- sunny summer, for me an automated light dep system over a greenhouse would be the holy grail of growing in Oregon.

We won't know until someone is looking back after the fact, but I wonder what impact the legalization of cannabis will have on our self-destructive trajectory. There could be a trend towards simplifying, less consumerism, a general "mellowness" and well being that moves us away from wars and short term gains over long term impacts. Or, it could contribute to passivity, to the over-indulgence in the ever growing ocean of streaming entertainment and video games and it could hasten our demise by facilitating our collectively putting our heads in virtual sand.

 

[Humanrob]

didn't mean to put a damper on the conversation, I stopped getting high for a few days, it tends to make me all serious...

I messed up and made a rookie mistake -- put my girls outside in 1 gallon pots with trays under them. With all the rain we had the pots and trays flooded and I nearly drowned the babies. So after all that "shoud I / shouldn't I" about bringing them inside, I decided to anyway to give them a chance to dry out. I've got a small heater on in the garage and a dehumidifier going, so they should recover. Looks like next week we'll get outside temps up into the low 70's and back out they'll go.

I'm looking into bug netting. Since they are autos and should remain around 3-5' tall, I might be able to make a simple hoop house/tunnel and cover them to keep the moths off. I'll lose about 20% of the light through the netting, but I probably lost about 50% of my last crop to worms so I can live with the light loss if this would work to keep them moth free.

 

[Humanrob]

I just posted about this in another thread, but I thought it's worth mentioning here too. In the conversation about bringing them back in or leaving them out, I've never before had such a clear illustration of the difference between starting seeds in a controlled environment vs. just putting them out in pots and "letting nature do its thing".

If these were photos it would not matter that much, with a long veg time in an outdoor they could still end out being substantial plants. But these happen to be autos, so apparently it's just lost growth time and these are going to be some really small plants. The pics are of two different grows, both are taken on day 17 from when the seeds were first soaked -- cold wet and overcast vs. climate and light controlled...

 

[graying.geek]

I just posted about this in another thread, but I thought it's worth mentioning here too. In the conversation about bringing them back in or leaving them out, I've never before had such a clear illustration of the difference between starting seeds in a controlled environment vs. just putting them out in pots and "letting nature do its thing".

If these were photos it would not matter that much, with a long veg time in an outdoor they could still end out being substantial plants. But these happen to be autos, so apparently it's just lost growth time and these are going to be some really small plants. The pics are of two different grows, both are taken on day 17 from when the seeds were first soaked -- cold wet and overcast vs. climate and light controlled...

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Thanx, @Humanrob. Starting seedlings indoors is a generally accepted practice for us NW veggie gardners, but it's nice to see such a clear and dramatic difference. My girls were started indoors from seed on April 1, planted outdoors in raised beds under a shaded greenhouse May 1, greenhouse removed on May 10, and the girls will be 5' tall on June 1. The extra veg time helps assuage the fact that I'm limited to ~5 hrs direct sunlight/day, but the constrained sunlight still only gives me ~4 oz / plant.



The Jorge's Diamond is on the left; the 2 spindly, sativa-looking Durban Poison's on the right.

 

[Humanrob]

Thanx, @Humanrob. Starting seedlings indoors is a generally accepted practice for us NW veggie gardners, but it's nice to see such a clear and dramatic difference. My girls were started indoors from seed on April 1, planted outdoors in raised beds under a shaded greenhouse May 1, greenhouse removed on May 10, and the girls will be 5' tall on June 1. The extra veg time helps assuage the fact that I'm limited to ~5 hrs direct sunlight/day, but the constrained sunlight still only gives me ~4 oz / plant.

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The Jorge's Diamond is on the left; the 2 spindly, sativa-looking Durban Poison's on the right.

This is my 5th year growing outdoors in Oregon, and I'm definitely still learning. Along with the learning curve, my goals for my grow have changed from year to year. This one was supposed to be practically ornamental, med-wise I'm hoping we can make it a year on what I grew in last years indoor. That said, I'm a bit stunned by how badly this season's start was. They are literally struggling to put out their second set of mature leaves.

I've got a friend who grows outdoors in his backyard in east Portland, and gets dappled sunlight most of the day, with at best a couple of hours of anything direct. He manages to get some decent bud. Now that we've taken a couple of trees down, I think I get about 6-7 hours of direct light depending on the month. At one point cannabis dominated our garden, now it has one row amongst the veggies to work with.

Your girls look to be stretching a bit for light, but they look healthy too. In a sense the shape of your plants serves the garden you are growing them in, just one of these would be wrong for the space --



I've thought about doing things like rolling out reflective sheeting at an angle to the north of my plants to try and supplement limited light, but ultimately the garden is not mine alone, and my wife has an aesthetic sense that often clashes with my 'plant optimization experimentation' LOL It's all good, these are great 'problems' to have.

 

[graying.geek]

This is my 5th year growing outdoors in Oregon, and I'm definitely still learning. Along with the learning curve, my goals for my grow have changed from year to year. This one was supposed to be practically ornamental, med-wise I'm hoping we can make it a year on what I grew in last years indoor. That said, I'm a bit stunned by how badly this season's start was. They are literally struggling to put out their second set of mature leaves.

Yeah, been an odd spring. Big burst of sunny days, then overcast/rain for the past week, so everything has stalled out. Well see how they recover from the rains during the next week of semi-sun.

I've got a friend who grows outdoors in his backyard in east Portland, and gets dappled sunlight most of the day, with at best a couple of hours of anything direct. He manages to get some decent bud. Now that we've taken a couple of trees down, I think I get about 6-7 hours of direct light depending on the month. At one point cannabis dominated our garden, now it has one row amongst the veggies to work with.

Since I have an efficient 2x4 hydro setup that more than fulfills my med needs, my outdoor is more a hobby grow; trying to find some early finishers for our climate with reasonable yield.

Your girls look to be stretching a bit for light, but they look healthy too. In a sense the shape of your plants serves the garden you are growing them in, just one of these would be wrong for the space --

Yeah, they were put under the greenhouse just before I left town for a week and the dappled light caused the sativas to stretch more than a foot during that time. With the greenhouse off they're starting to put on some foliage.

I've thought about doing things like rolling out reflective sheeting at an angle to the north of my plants to try and supplement limited light, but ultimately the garden is not mine alone, and my wife has an aesthetic sense that often clashes with my 'plant optimization experimentation' LOL It's all good, these are great 'problems' to have.

There's only so much one can do to mitigate our less than ideal growing conditions. As long as I have my indoor grow for fall, winter, spring, I'm only willing to put in limited effort on my summer grow.

 

[Humanrob]

Yeah, been an odd spring. Big burst of sunny days, then overcast/rain for the past week, so everything has stalled out. Well see how they recover from the rains during the next week of semi-sun.

...Since I have an efficient 2x4 hydro setup that more than fulfills my med needs, my outdoor is more a hobby grow; trying to find some early finishers for our climate with reasonable yield.

...Yeah, they were put under the greenhouse just before I left town for a week and the dappled light caused the sativas to stretch more than a foot during that time. With the greenhouse off they're starting to put on some foliage.

...There's only so much one can do to mitigate our less than ideal growing conditions. As long as I have my indoor grow for fall, winter, spring, I'm only willing to put in limited effort on my summer grow.

While stumbling through my first outdoor in 2015, even with major mistakes and miscalculations I was blown away by their size and the quantity of harvest. I quickly had to learn how to make budder and tincture, just to find a way to store it all. The next summer the first signs of worms showed up, and that's been a battle ever since. Even with those critters, that second summer we had so much product I had to buy a chest freezer and learn how to make bubble hash. 2016 was my peak production, the next summer worms took down whole plants, and what they didn't eat rippers took a share of. I'm still making brownies from budder I made in 2015, and we're still smoking hash from the 2016 harvest.

My indoor setup in a very old detached garage is very inefficient and expensive (in terms of maintaining temps and RH), and time consuming since it's not very automated. Because of that, I'm trying to get by on one big indoor winter grow to carry us the whole year. It's a lot of eggs in one basket, this will be the first year we test it. So the outdoor is a bonus if we get something from it, it'll take a little pressure off. That's a long way from how things started, but things are what they are.

This summer is the first time I've hooked up the drip irrigation from the veggie garden to cover the cannabis, and it has the potential to be a very low maintenance grow. Hopefully this set up with the bug netting works and I can just replicate it moving forward. I think the compact size of the autos and their short grow season could be a nice fit for my needs, the space in left in my garden, and our climate.

 

[graying.geek]

While stumbling through my first outdoor in 2015, even with major mistakes and miscalculations I was blown away by their size and the quantity of harvest. I quickly had to learn how to make budder and tincture, just to find a way to store it all. The next summer the first signs of worms showed up, and that's been a battle ever since.

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What kind of worms are you fighting? My only issues outdoors has been keeping the spider mites under control during the summer, then avoiding bud rot in the fall. Once/wk spray down with diluted neem + sesame oil has kept both at bay, but, as yet, haven't had any worm problems.

 

[Humanrob]

What kind of worms are you fighting? My only issues outdoors has been keeping the spider mites under control during the summer, then avoiding bud rot in the fall. Once/wk spray down with diluted neem + sesame oil has kept both at bay, but, as yet, haven't had any worm problems.

They are commonly known as "budworms", but apparently there are a few types of moths that have the same M.O. because I've had worms in various colors and sizes. It's like so many destructive bugs, once they find you they come back in force. They lay their eggs on the highest parts of the plants (i.e. the best colas) around the pre-forming flowers. Then the bud grows around the eggs, eventually the worms hatch and eat their way out from the center, pooping along the way. The wetness of the poop almost guarantees bud rot as a side effect, and they often eat through the stem causing the whole end of the cola to die.

When I've done internet searches for "bud worm" others come up, like tobacco worms, and there are bud worms that attack roses and other flowers. I think the worms that come crawling out of apples occur in a similar way. The best known antidote is BT (Bacillus thuringiensis), a bacteria that when eaten by the worms kills them. It's often used on fruit trees because apparently it's harmless for humans to eat. The thing is that BT is only viable in the air for about a week, so you have to spray it every week while the flowers are first forming so that it gets trapped in the bud and the hatching worms eat it right away. Many an internet expert claim it is safe to smoke, but as best I can tell that's "I don't know anyone who has died from it" data, I have no information about a lab that has done experiments on smoking it. In the end, at best you are smoking tiny dead baby worms, and the residue of BT and whatever the medium is that makes the BT into a liquid spray. Bottom line, I'm going with netting over spraying if I can.

You are very fortunate if they are not in your area. With all the Oregonians throwing a plant or two out in their back yards, I wonder if the moths will become more prolific over time. I did a quick search in my pic file and came up with these -

 

[BlazinDucks]

I'm back to growing again this year. I skipped last year for a few reasons but mainly I had plenty from the previous season left over. I'm only running 2 plants this year. Trimming lbs isn't fun to me, and the stress isn't worth it. 2 will do just fine for me. The choices are Sundae driver, and Black cherry cheesecake. Really happy to be back in action with all new raised beds and soil. Looking forward to watching the grows over the season