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Schwaggy P

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intersting that ssdd look identical to one i saw @Nube post in a thread of his on OG. i rememebr it because i had noticed there, as well as here, the petioles are way longer than the cross i have. i see what you mean how the jabba is passing on the structure. and yea i am thinking 9-10 weeks on the cross for sure. tomorrowis 9 and as of sunday all trichs were clear not one amber, hard to tell cloudy ratio with my loupe and shaky hands. the ssdd also has way better leaf to flower ratio. i am thinking the cross is largely destined to be a hash plant. unless you like trimming tons of sugar leafes i would make hash with these.
Perhaps a sample of the flower made its way to him along with some pics ;).

The Jabba influence becomes clearer with the SSDD pics. The SSDD in the pics were grown in hydro, so I usually get better leaf/calyx than in soil. The SSDD is a creeper, so you might get that trait in the smoke.
 

outliergenetix

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Perhaps a sample of the flower made its way to him along with some pics ;).

The Jabba influence becomes clearer with the SSDD pics. The SSDD in the pics were grown in hydro, so I usually get better leaf/calyx than in soil. The SSDD is a creeper, so you might get that trait in the smoke.
nice, i am looking froward to testing the smoke. i did oven dry a tiny piece of the most mature 3 to see how high i got with clear trichs, i didnt note which peice came from which plant but one has a strong chemmy flavor and good stone already. the other ones were noticeably not rdy to be smoked but had slight chem flavor with some other notes that elude me atm. oddly the one that smells most of chem i didnt sample as it was the furthest from rdy still shooting with hairs, that is also the lighter of the green and the tallest as well best calyx/leaf ration, but still pretty leafy.

not that you prolly care but i pulled the vanilla kush down day 60 on sunday. coulda maybe went another week, but there was some amber and i'm dry so down she went. if you wanna see what she look like when i took her down i posted some pics on chucker paradise of her, she is heavily seeded with passion fruit or a passion fruit cross, not sure which all ik is it was a bagseed of passion fruit and th eplant smelled just like the bud i got it from. i assumed it was selfed so i put it in same pot with that vamnilla kush. 2 weeks into flower i had to chop the passion fruit once i saw it was a male tho. i still have the male for later use because he is stinky in veg. there are prolly some xmass bud pollen in the mix on the vanilla kush to. these are all pot luck seeds because i was slow to pull the males out so idk which are xmass pollenated and whoich are passion fruit pollinated. i would say mostly xmass except this kush that shared a pot withthe passion fruit for first two weeks of flower

here is the link to the last pic of her. my post is halfway down page
https://www.rollitup.org/t/chuckers-paradise.865617/page-579
 

Baja.Beaches

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Good to hear! The SKVA’s OG structure would minimize mold worries but may require more support if you intend to top and train. The SKVA x Skunky Brewster show a nice spread as far as expressed traits, but you should get the OG structured plants, you can see there are a solid representation of the taller phenos in the F1:
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I haven’t gone through the (SKVA x Granny Skunk), but the Granny Skunk has imparted increased stem strength in the (GCs1 x Granny Skunk) progeny. I would assume the Granny Skunk could reliably shore up the stem strength in a cross. The Skunky Brewsters were on the shorter/stockier side of structures, so I would think either male should provide some structurally sound plants for outdoor.

The deeper saw tooth serrations and narrower leaf blades are the mark of the Skunky B (these are expressing the deeper serrations, middle plant is also narrow bladed):
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He also passes on the intense frost production. Here is a selected male from the Skunky D (Chem D x Skunky B) that looks like Chem D with more frost:
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The Skunky Brewster females were less roadkill and more hashy in taste/smell. They were shorter, a few phenos liked to branch but were mostly single cola style plants with a relaxing effect. I would expect the SKVA x Skunky B to hopefully take on the earth/fuel of the Chem with the increased frost coverage of the Skunky B and have a great stone.

The Granny Skunk females all had, to some degree, a sour apple to the smell. The high was a little more soaring cerebral than the Skunky B. You may find some Sour Diesel-esque plants in this cross.

Such a well thought out answer as always, complete with illustration. Thanks for taking the time to compose that professor. Interesting to hear the differences in the males, this will be fun to see how the 2 develop.

On another note, I know you grew out the Green Crack CBD, but did you also grow the cross with Jabba’s Stash?

I am really impressed with that cross, good structure & a most excellent & loud smell. One of those I showed you went male but the other 3 are beauties. They made me anxious to know, I took enough cuts to squeeze one in the tent to flower. I would sure treasure a CBD/THC balance. We shall see.
 

Schwaggy P

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Such a well thought out answer as always, complete with illustration. Thanks for taking the time to compose that professor. Interesting to hear the differences in the males, this will be fun to see how the 2 develop.

On another note, I know you grew out the Green Crack CBD, but did you also grow the cross with Jabba’s Stash?

I am really impressed with that cross, good structure & a most excellent & loud smell. One of those I showed you went male but the other 3 are beauties. They made me anxious to know, I took enough cuts to squeeze one in the tent to flower. I would sure treasure a CBD/THC balance. We shall see.
You're welcome, glad to do it.

I have not grown out the GC CBD x Jabba's Stash. I recently finished a run of a GC CBD:
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Good to hear you're pleased with the cross, how would you describe the smell? Nice score on the 3/4 females. Hopefully that magic ratio is in one of them.
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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No sir,
Black Lights was made by Coastal Seeds
Old Family Purple was made by CSI

I used a Black Lights male to pollinate: Chemdog'91(skva), H.A.OG, Sour Diesel, Chem D, and Chem Kesey. This batch of seeded plants is currently finishing.
You finding any crosses that bulk up the Haog? This last run with my ssdd x haog it was the largest amount of small dense nugs yet, a trimmers nightmare.
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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I think the HAOG has a solid yield, recently took down a tray with some nugs that were between golfball and hand grenade. It's been one of the nicer yielding OGs.
oh okay cool. I was just noticing that every time I took a clone from the mom into flower, I seem to be getting a larger yield of dense marble sized nugs, no golf balls like I had gotten on her from seed. Maybe its just one of those plants that does better from seed than clone. Oh well.
 

Baja.Beaches

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You're welcome, glad to do it.

I have not grown out the GC CBD x Jabba's Stash. I recently finished a run of a GC CBD:
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Good to hear you're pleased with the cross, how would you describe the smell? Nice score on the 3/4 females. Hopefully that magic ratio is in one of them.
You sure take pretty pics. That Green Crack CBD looks so smokable.

So far I have not really liked smoking high CBD strains, I am all about extracts with the CBD. I think enough THC might change that. Hoping the addition of the Jabba will make all the difference.

The smell…the pressure is on, I suck at those descriptions. Got my wife out there sniffing with me. It is still early but we came up with a peppery musk. Reminds me of a SSDD pheno I have a few years ago.

It’s been raining for days with high winds. Heavy wet branches with wind is a recipe for disaster outdoors, I lost a couple plants to snapping branches, those took it very well, standing straight up.
 

Schwaggy P

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You sure take pretty pics. That Green Crack CBD looks so smokable.

So far I have not really liked smoking high CBD strains, I am all about extracts with the CBD. I think enough THC might change that. Hoping the addition of the Jabba will make all the difference.

The smell…the pressure is on, I suck at those descriptions. Got my wife out there sniffing with me. It is still early but we came up with a peppery musk. Reminds me of a SSDD pheno I have a few years ago.

It’s been raining for days with high winds. Heavy wet branches with wind is a recipe for disaster outdoors, I lost a couple plants to snapping branches, those took it very well, standing straight up.
:smile: Thank you.

:lol: Calling in reinforcements, peppery musk sounds good.

I would credit the Jabba's Stash male for imparting the wind resistance.
 

Schwaggy P

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H.A.OG polyBX
BX1 underway
H.A.OG has accepted the pollen of the multiple males (separate branches with separate pollen).
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To recap, the polyBX is a multiple male cohort backcross that attempts to maintain traits that may be lost if only one male is chosen based on observable phenotype.

Here are males #1 and #2 of the initial F1 outcross (H.A.OG x Black Triangle). Their pollen has already been collected separately, used to pollinate, and extra collected and stored in the pollen bank. #3 Dropped pollen more quickly than these two and has already been pink-slipped. Since collecting their pollen, I have been torturing these males (weird light schedule, overfeeding/overwatering) and they will meet their end today.
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Frank Nitty

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H.A.OG polyBX
BX1 underway
H.A.OG has accepted the pollen of the multiple males (separate branches with separate pollen).
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To recap, the polyBX is a multiple male cohort backcross that attempts to maintain traits that may be lost if only one male is chosen based on observable phenotype.

Here are males #1 and #2 of the initial F1 outcross (H.A.OG x Black Triangle). Their pollen has already been collected separately, used to pollinate, and extra collected and stored in the pollen bank. #3 Dropped pollen more quickly than these two and has already been pink-slipped. Since collecting their pollen, I have been torturing these males (weird light schedule, overfeeding/overwatering) and they will meet their end today.
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Picture jewels being handed to an innocent child... Explaining astrophysics to a wino... I cee the results but i just dont understand it... Maybe I'm out of my league here... Its still fascinating to me though...
 

Schwaggy P

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Picture jewels being handed to an innocent child... Explaining astrophysics to a wino... I cee the results but i just dont understand it... Maybe I'm out of my league here... Its still fascinating to me though...
It sounds more complicated than it is.

If you have a female plant you like and want in seed form, cross her to some male. Take those babies that are now getting 50% of the female and cross it to mom again and get babies that are now 75% of the female’s genes. You just keep crossing back to the female until you get plants that are like the female you were looking to get in seed form.
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Frank Nitty

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It sounds more complicated than it is.

If you have a female plant you like and want in seed form, cross her to some male. Take those babies that are now getting 50% of the female and cross it to mom again and get babies that are now 75% of the female’s genes. You just keep crossing back to the female until you get plants that are like the female you were looking to get in seed form.
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So thats where the hunt goes into action... To find the right male to cross breed the female with... Man im smart but im having a hard time grasping this concept... Bear with me...
 

outliergenetix

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They're looking good. How did the single branch pollinations work out?
it worked out well i think. i took the pics after i pulled the bags off actually 6 days after pollination. there was surprisingly no real curled brown hairs on the branches i pollinated, or at least not liek i expected a week later. that said few main colas look to have hairs that ambered a bit makign me wonder if there was stray pollen. i would think tho the ones i hit would have the same 'symptom'
 

Schwaggy P

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@Schwaggy P
Hello again teach, im gathering the ingredients to make some STS.

But distilled water is not available in supermarkets in UK.
I can get deionized water but not sure if that is usable in this situation?
Or I can use my steam stripper and steam into a glass jar to create distilled water. Would that work?
I think the DI water should be fine for this application. The difference between the two types is that DI water can still have neutral organic molecule residuals (depending on the initial water source). Since STS is inorganic, you should be fine. Your steam method would create distilled water if you wanted to go that route.
 

coreywebster

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I think the DI water should be fine for this application. The difference between the two types is that DI water can still have neutral organic molecule residuals (depending on the initial water source). Since STS is inorganic, you should be fine. Your steam method would create distilled water if you wanted to go that route.
Thanks again dude.

I made some colloidal silver last week but the issue I have with that is I have no way of knowing the ppm, I know my laser tells me its good but my bluelab truncheon doesn't read less than 100ppm and I don't want to kill anything on my first attempt.

The STS guide you wrote made me think I would have more control knowing what im starting with. Plus it seems to be less time consuming :bigjoint:
 
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