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Schwaggy P

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Thanks again dude.

I made some colloidal silver last week but the issue I have with that is I have no way of knowing the ppm, I know my laser tells me its good but my bluelab truncheon doesn't read less than 100ppm and I don't want to kill anything on my first attempt.

The STS guide you wrote made me think I would have more control knowing what im starting with. Plus it seems to be less time consuming :bigjoint:
You're welcome.

There is less guesswork with the STS concentration. You may need to play with the strength of the final spray depending on how your particular plant responds, but the adjustments are calculable.
 

Schwaggy P

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So, will making STS with tap water not work? I made mine that way and just flipped "her" 4 days ago. I can't tell yet if it's working or not.
I can't say for sure whether it will or won't work with tap. I have only ever made it with distilled. The reason for not using tap is the presence of other ions in the water that may interact with the salts you dissolve to make the STS. The STS process should have yielded totally dissolved solutes at every step, so if you noticed any precipitates crash out of the solution, that may affect the final concentration of STS as it has reacted with whatever was in the starting tap water (not all tap is created equal). If you didn't notice anything refusing to dissolve, then you may be okay to use the tap based STS, but again, I can't say for sure.

You'll need to give her about a couple weeks before you notice the signs of reversal.
 

Psychonautic83

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I can't say for sure whether it will or won't work with tap. I have only ever made it with distilled. The reason for not using tap is the presence of other ions in the water that may interact with the salts you dissolve to make the STS. The STS process should have yielded totally dissolved solutes at every step, so if you noticed any precipitates crash out of the solution, that may affect the final concentration of STS as it has reacted with whatever was in the starting tap water (not all tap is created equal). If you didn't notice anything refusing to dissolve, then you may be okay to use the tap based STS, but again, I can't say for sure.

You'll need to give her about a couple weeks before you notice the signs of reversal.
Ok! I'll keep at it and see how "she" goes. I sprayed 5 days before flip, day of flip and plan to spray every 5 days until removing for pollen collection.
 

Frank Nitty

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I think the DI water should be fine for this application. The difference between the two types is that DI water can still have neutral organic molecule residuals (depending on the initial water source). Since STS is inorganic, you should be fine. Your steam method would create distilled water if you wanted to go that route.
This guy is just a fountain of information!!!
 

outliergenetix

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Small test nug of the Chem Kesey (Chem'91skva x 88G13HP) pollinated by the Black Lights (Black Domina x NL#1)
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sorry if you said this before or if i asked it before but do you make bubble or what with your seeded runs? ik you have a pollen sifter machine, but i was just curios if you mainly use it for joints or run bubble or sift. what do you find the most efficient use of it? edibles maybe?
 

outliergenetix

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i just got home and was stoned and looking at these jabbas and appreciating how uniform they really are man. for f2 these things are pretty amazing. I would say just by accident I stumbled upon the way to maximize the yield one these. tho they grow slow if you top early and let em grow decent two colas and then clone or cut the one cola you really can make a dense canopy of nugs with a nice spacing of spears rising above the main canopy but not blocking light with 1 gallon xtra tall pots like im using in this run. I am not maximizing space personally but I could cram 30 of these in a little under 3x4 space all looking like these. anyway this is a good sog candidate if you are willing to top once or twice, prolly 2-3lb in a 4x4(assuming 1-1.5oz per plant would be my guess in soil which for soil is nice. she is meaty and short and predictable which means you may be able to do this from seed not clone reliably with an annual branch pollination. tbh if this pollination takes I may germ 50 of these and cull males for a sog sensi run soon. like xmass time. I really like these. not even really smelling them often but most seem deep fruit funk.

there is one outlier color wise and two i would say overall which you can see from the pics. the pairs are to show the main two phenos but the dark is the main one. there are 6 total and one pic of all 6 together. @day38
 

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Frank Nitty

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i just got home and was stoned and looking at these jabbas and appreciating how uniform they really are man. for f2 these things are pretty amazing. I would say just by accident I stumbled upon the way to maximize the yield one these. tho they grow slow if you top early and let em grow decent two colas and then clone or cut the one cola you really can make a dense canopy of nugs with a nice spacing of spears rising above the main canopy but not blocking light with 1 gallon xtra tall pots like im using in this run. I am not maximizing space personally but I could cram 30 of these in a little under 3x4 space all looking like these. anyway this is a good sog candidate if you are willing to top once or twice, prolly 2-3lb in a 4x4(assuming 1-1.5oz per plant would be my guess in soil which for soil is nice. she is meaty and short and predictable which means you may be able to do this from seed not clone reliably with like an annual branch pollination

there is one outlier color wise and two i would say overall which you can see from the pics. the pairs are to show the main two phenos but the dark is the main one. there are 6 total and one pic of all 6 together. @day38
Hell,fuckin yeah!!! That shit right there is tight!!!
 

Schwaggy P

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sorry if you said this before or if i asked it before but do you make bubble or what with your seeded runs? ik you have a pollen sifter machine, but i was just curios if you mainly use it for joints or run bubble or sift. what do you find the most efficient use of it? edibles maybe?
I usually use them for edibles. I have a ridiculous amount of trim/popcorn larf/shucked material in labeled bags in a huge pile waiting to be sifted or used for edibles. I don't really need or make too much, but I can't just throw it out. I harvest a table roughly every ten days, so I have so much trim that I haven't really needed to optimize what happens with the seed runs.
 

Schwaggy P

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i just got home and was stoned and looking at these jabbas and appreciating how uniform they really are man. for f2 these things are pretty amazing. I would say just by accident I stumbled upon the way to maximize the yield one these. tho they grow slow if you top early and let em grow decent two colas and then clone or cut the one cola you really can make a dense canopy of nugs with a nice spacing of spears rising above the main canopy but not blocking light with 1 gallon xtra tall pots like im using in this run. I am not maximizing space personally but I could cram 30 of these in a little under 3x4 space all looking like these. anyway this is a good sog candidate if you are willing to top once or twice, prolly 2-3lb in a 4x4(assuming 1-1.5oz per plant would be my guess in soil which for soil is nice. she is meaty and short and predictable which means you may be able to do this from seed not clone reliably with an annual branch pollination. tbh if this pollination takes I may germ 50 of these and cull males for a sog sensi run soon. like xmass time. I really like these. not even really smelling them often but most seem deep fruit funk.

there is one outlier color wise and two i would say overall which you can see from the pics. the pairs are to show the main two phenos but the dark is the main one. there are 6 total and one pic of all 6 together. @day38
They look very stout and uniform. For day 38, they sure are stacking pretty hard. Agreed, these would be a nice SOG from seed candidate, especially if you pollinate a branch each run to have more seed for the next crop to really lock down those qualities.

I'm glad you're enjoying the Jabba's Stash F2, I try to make small batch F2 with most packs that get popped, (especially Bodhi crosses that can be gone before you realize it). The F1 variance was quite a spread phenotypically, so the uniformity of these F2 seems a testament to the virility of the male. I still have some of his pollen banked in the freezer, so he may be a great tool for wrangling some more lanky ladies in the future.

Thanks for the update.:)
 

outliergenetix

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They look very stout and uniform. For day 38, they sure are stacking pretty hard. Agreed, these would be a nice SOG from seed candidate, especially if you pollinate a branch each run to have more seed for the next crop to really lock down those qualities.

I'm glad you're enjoying the Jabba's Stash F2, I try to make small batch F2 with most packs that get popped, (especially Bodhi crosses that can be gone before you realize it). The F1 variance was quite a spread phenotypically, so the uniformity of these F2 seems a testament to the virility of the male. I still have some of his pollen banked in the freezer, so he may be a great tool for wrangling some more lanky ladies in the future.

Thanks for the update.:)
then it shall be interesting if the 'open pollination' method I used will revert them away from this uniformity or that male of yours traits will pass on thru an open pollination. stay tuned lol I think imma squeeze in a run of the f3s before the year is out
 

Frank Nitty

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I usually use them for edibles. I have a ridiculous amount of trim/popcorn larf/shucked material in labeled bags in a huge pile waiting to be sifted or used for edibles. I don't really need or make too much, but I can't just throw it out. I harvest a table roughly every ten days, so I have so much trim that I haven't really needed to optimize what happens with the seed runs.
Nothing says success like excess!!!
 
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