Proper & Pure n,n-DMT pull / extraction

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HeatlessBBQ

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SWIM sourced some root bark and is tempted to do an extraction. :mrgreen:

This is SWIMs first time doing a pull like this or anything like it.

I have given SWIM several different teks to look over and SWIM is thinking about combing a few of Them together. SWIM wants to make sure to get the purest, most unadulterated n,n-DMT known to man... And lots of it.

I will keep You all updated on SWIMs extraction...
We are excited about this one...


In the meen time... :weed:

~BBQ
 
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HeatlessBBQ

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Do any of You kind members of the HS have any advice for a first timer on a DMT extraction?
...or any extraction methods You could part with? :idea:

Any information / sources is much appreciated.

SWIM is wanting to pull as much pure product as possible.
 

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QUAD BREATH

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Do any of You kind members of the HS have any advice for a first timer on a DMT extraction?
...or any extraction methods You could part with? :idea:
Use a Tek that is compatible with the materials that are easiest to source for you.

What is the best tek?
"There is no "best" tek. All teks featured in the Nexus Wiki should result in similar final product purity and yields, if correctly performed. Each tek has it's own characteristics regarding chemicals used, how long it takes, how thorough it's explained, if it includes optional clean up steps or not, etc. That is why, before deciding on one tek, it's important to read all (or at least some of them), also the "where to start" question above and the extraction overview linked there. That way you will have a better understanding of the processes instead of just blindly following a tek, which means you'll probably be more succesful with whichever tek you decide to use in the end"

The above is from the following and has some proven Tek's listed:
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/FAQ#How_to_brew_ayahuasca_or_analogues_.28mimosa_hostilis_.2F_syrian_rue.29.3F

And as you probably already know, SWIM used Tek 2 from the following:
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Q21Q21's_Vinegar/Lime_A/B_Extraction_Tek

 
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HeatlessBBQ

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I will make updates and turn this thread into a tek...
With pictures. :mrgreen:

With good intentions; this should work.



@QUAD BREATH, Ya think One could get visuals like that in the image You posted above?
 

HeatlessBBQ

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Not at all? ;)

Sitting atop a hill, smoking some dreams and seeing something like that could make My day... :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

HeatlessBBQ

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Does it really take 40+mgs?...
What are the circumstances, @QUAD BREATH???

Never have gotten the chance or enough DMT in the blood stream.
More than enough reports to ravish an idea though...
 
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QUAD BREATH

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Does it really take 40+mgs?...
From what I've read: 25 - 50 mg .....and if it takes 50mg your smoking technique may be off.
What are the circumstances, @QUAD BREATH???
From my understanding, I would say your ability to vaporize the crystals without burning, inhaling the full dose - holding it in for as long as possible, and "Set" and "Setting".

4:47 - Choose your dose
7:19 - The real experience is when you break through to the other side - Tier Three
 
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QUAD BREATH

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Never have gotten the chance or enough DMT in the blood stream.
More than enough reports to ravish an idea though...
I got approx. 300mg of beautiful smelling spice just waiting......I'm just really busy with things right now but hope to give this a go in the next two months. I'll give you first hand information once I try it for myself; perhaps, you'll have a report before I do and offer some tips.

I can tell you one thing, these crystals smell devine - smells like jasmine incense. This stuff requires respect. Just by the smell and its aura, you know if you hit this properly, it is not taking you to the moon....but rather, right through the fuken black hole lol. :o

And from all the reading I've done, I am thinking of using the sandwich technique with a bong. A layer of ash ...spice on top.........layer of ash on top of spice .....slowly vaporize and hit it in one or two pulls.
 
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DMT ~ n,n-DMT DOSAGE EFFECTS ~ TOLERANCE

Editor's Note: The OP has been updating dosage info on most current thread page.


[THIS CHART'S RESEARCH WAS RECORDED WITH IMPURE, POORLY EXTRACTED n,n,-DMT; ONLY.] A more Pure / 'Purer' chart will be made up in the future...


The peak / duration of the experience is usually uncomfortable and overwhelming for people smoking impure n,n-DMT. Delirium [dream state], Goosebumps, Tryptamine shakes / body shivers are very common with impure n,n-DMT as well. Effects come on very quickly, potent, and strong; especially when vaporized.
Effects lasts a Total of 15-25 minutes.

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2-9 mgs {N/A vaporized} : Threshold. A lot like 10 mgs.

10 mgs {2-5 mgs vaporized} : a lot like a peak of a 200 mic acid trip. Rainbow auras around rays of light [star pattern effect]. Very surreal / real at the same time. Increase in visual equity / ability to focus. Distractive yet immersive [unroot]. Extremely profound spiritual experiences and thought provoking 'coincidences'. Easier to draw attention and navigate thoughts. Feelings of awareness/connection, satisfaction/uncertainty, strong emotions, and sensitive vibes. VERY attractive, colourful, and intricate ClosedEyeVisuals. CEVs seem to emerge the user further into the experience instead of keeping the eyes open. Interesting body / head high; tryptamine pressure especially with impure DMT.
~ Profound clarity and recognition.
Some CEV entity contact is sometimes reported at this dose. [breakthroughs are not possible at this dosage] ~ Level 3 ~ Peaking effects last 7 - 10 minutes.

Some are reporting an "ego death" or the feeling of losing Your body / ego.
Disorientation, disassociation and confusion can happen at these doses with n,n-DMT {10mgs or more}; which could lead to unwanted or dangerous experiences.



20 mgs {5mgs vaporized} : this is where things get powerful and with impure n,n-DMT; kind of uncomfortable. This is considered a true DMT trip, however not a 'breakthrough'. ~Visual field becomes fractalized yet not overwhelming. Rapidly changing, kaleidoscopic stained glass mandalas or Chrysanthemum cathedral / corridor type backgrounds; or infinite vast open spaces are very common with the eyes closed. Some people report Level 4 / 5 attributes, especially with ClosedEyeVisuals. CEV and OEV are extremely intense, personal, and profound. OEV & CEV are like watching the most detailed spontaneous animated color changing images / designs from every culture. The features, symbolisms, and designs presented in the experience go along with One's thoughts / personal life in the most profound ways possible. "Thought Loops" can happen, due to DMT's self reflective psychological effects [this can be extremely beautiful and/or this can be extremely painful ]. OpenEyeVisuals are more enhanced [Level 2-3 visuals] along with meaningful moments that seem to stick after the effects wear off.
~ Insight to One's own lifestyles and behaviors.
~ Level 3 - 4

30 mgs {15mgs vaporized} : [Psychotic episodes may happen].
Sensory overload / input; this is where things get extremely powerful.
Pretty much where even some of the most experienced people draw the line.
Effects come on within the first 3-15 seconds. AMAZING CEVs.
Ego loss is often described along with PROFOUND astral projections.
Divine intervention, energetic interaction, and profound memory lapses/recall. Most people report the feelings of floating or flying, or being guided by a mysterious, all knowing entity. some report nausea or vomiting, depending on body contents [alcohol, food...etc] or DMT quality.
Some people report visiting "god-central" or the control room of the universe. Extra Sensory / Third Eye Perception / Ancestor wisdom. ~ Vivid landscape, real life scenarios, digital presentations while flashing past, present, and future. Vivid hallucinations can appear [this is like a 500 mic LSD trip].
Extreme emotional / memory responses. Feeling of awakening for the first time ever from a deep sleep is possible; or a feeling of liberation and a state of understanding is quite common.

[You are getting into STRONG-HEAVY entheogenic / sacramental territory]

~ Level 4 and some Level 3 and 5 like attributes.
Peaking effects last 10 - 15 minutes - total effects last 25 minutes.


35 mgs {20mgs vaporized} : Near death like scenarios [physically, mentally, or spiritually] or Absolute Out of Body experience/s. Most people that intend to breakthrough at this dose, sometimes refuse to continue smoking because the effects come on so quickly and/or were not ready for 'a dose this high'. ~ Flower of Life fractal type visuals of any and every design/scale are presented, [OEV and CEV]. Loud / overwhelming sound / auditory input. Profoundly vivid scenarios manifest Themselves within the self conscious matrix; unfolding personal identity and revelation. Entity contact is sometimes reported but not like 'breakthroughs'. This can be a VERY life changing dose. Some can handle it well but some will absolutely lose Their shit. This dose can overwhelm / frighten people who have never taken a psychedelic drug before or inexperienced with n,n-DMT [even if You have smoked it 5 times]. ~ This dose is often reported as extremely thought provoking and sometimes even scary. Some people have reported breakthroughs at this dose, only due to smoking the n,n-dmt correctly/non wastefully.
Most people do not breakthrough at this dose.
There typically can be a blending of both CEV and OEV during the peak.
This can be a very intense & overwhelming experience for anyone.
Coming down effects are mush easier to handle and desirable.
~ Level 4 - 5

40+ mgs {25+mgs vaporized} : "Breakthough" ~ Extreme sensory overload / input. Complete ego loss and dissolving of self. Eons of vast/open timeless vaulted spaces. Encountering other worlds / realms / 'entities'. Blasting THROUGH the Rapidly changing, kaleidoscopic stained glass mandalas or Chrysanthemum cathedral / corridor type background, or infinite vast open space/s is very common. Unbelievable amounts of vibrancy of color manifested in countless ways; some people even report seeing new colors They have never seen before. Entity interference or divine intervention is always common. The quality of the experience becomes so deep and meaningful that explaining it is simply ineffable. After effects are like the feeling of coming back into One's body from a trip to outter space.
THIS IS NOT A DRUG, DMT IS A LIFE TRANSFORMATIONAL TOOL.

LEVEL 5
 
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HeatlessBBQ

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From what I've read: 25 - 50 mg .....and if it takes 50mg your smoking technique may be off.
From my understanding, I would say your ability to vaporize the crystals without burning, inhaling the full dose - holding it in for as long as possible, and "Set" and "Setting"...
So would You inquiry that a first timer; with DMT... SHOULD use the
sandwich method instead of vaporizing?
 

QUAD BREATH

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So would You inquiry that a first timer; with DMT... SHOULD use the
sandwich method instead of vaporizing?
NO, I am saying you need to VAPORIZE. Most of the guys recommend using a GVG (Glass Vapour Genie) and even that requires proper technique.

The problem most people have with breakthrough is burning their spice. The "sandwich" method is a vaporization technique.

I don't have a GVG or any type of vaporizer. Therefore, I will use what I do have and some people have lots of success by using the "sandwich method" - you can use herbs, ashes, or a combination. The idea is all the same - to vaporize the crystals and not to burn them. If you are burning your crystals you get a plastic type hit.....a pure vaporized hit is more floral apparently.

With a water bong you should easily be able to clear a whole dose in one or two hits - I am not recommending this method but is the most practical for the tools I have. I may just use plain ashes, which many do, so that I can taste the flavor of pure Spirit Molecules :idea: bongsmilie

The following is from: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37220

"The O so neglected but awesome SANDWICH METHOD- This is kind of like making changa in the bowl. Its not as idiot proof as changa but is still pretty darn simple when loaded correctly into a marijuana pipe or bong. A deep bowl is best cuz were gonna layer this sucker up into hyperspace.
Your going to need an inert smoking blend thats easy to hold down, something like parsley or go buy a fancy smoking herb at the local head shop. You will also need some good clean ash, a screen cant hurt but isnt mandatory.

Fill the bowl 3/4 with your smoking blend, pack it down well we want a good bed of matter to catch every bit of melted dmt. Make sure you can still draw air in though. Now sprinkle the dmt evenly on top of the herb in the bowl. I like to take a lighter and place the flame close enough to melt the spice into the herbs just go easy and dont ignite anything.


Now place a layer of ash on top of the herb and melted spice. An ample layer but leave enough room for one small thin additional layer of smoking herbs on top of the ash in the bowl. The idea here is the ash diffuses the flame into in-direct heat so you wont burn up the dmt. If you have a gvg look at the ceramic diffuser disc, the ash acts the same as this disc. The smoking herbs on top the ash will act as your heat source when cherry glowing red hot nice and consistent allowing you to not have to use too much lighter.

Here is how i smoke a sandwich. Its pretty easy I like to quickly swirl the flame over the top herbs as i draw in air getting the all the herbs glowing red then remove the flame and continues inhaling aggressively. Again Much like changa a well built sandwich can easily shoot you into hyperspace in one good sized hit so adjust accordingly.

Again, count hits as before."
 
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QUAD BREATH

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Anyone have any ideas what to call the honey colored oil - this was taken from a 4th or 5th pull lime tek.

That is approx 10 mg of honey colored spirit oil on that blade. There is approx 30 mg of flake and oil in that pile - 4th or 5th extraction from the same 50g of MHRB that had been sitting for six days. First time the oil has shown up......any :idea: ?
 
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QUAD BREATH

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Anyone have any ideas what to call the honey colored oil
Looks to me like it is "Jungle DMT" or some sort of "Jimjam" with several other alkaloids. I am just surprised it came out from a Naphtha pull; however, there are some factors that could make sense out of this.

I am not a chemist so I really can't explain.......what do you think @ HeatlessBBQ ?
 
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