Lucky Luke
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Why are they different?
Confused rookie grower needing some help
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Lucky Luke
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To much water will kill u to. u didn't answer the question.
I’m glad you’re happy lighting your joint 10 times when once will do if you don’t flush after you use synthetics it’s ignorance ffs even the nutrient companies tell you that
Flowki
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You're asking a lot of complicated questions, it's a big learning curve growing properly. I won't answer all of it for you, but I can put you on the right track with some key things. The more you read into it all the better your end result, it's up to you.
''lost money on seeds a few times with poor results''
This sounds like you're using bad seed company's or your germination/seedling environment is bad. Search the forums here for good seed banks and germination /seedling environment methods. Bare in mind you don't need the most fanciest set ups, find a method that is applicable to your current set up/funds.
''I wanted to know if i can start flushing my plant when 25%of pistils hairs are brown or 50% of them??''
Flushing isn't required if you are feeding the correct amount from the start. For the last 2 weeks or so you can begin lowering nutrient amount to 3/4 and then 1/2, it doesn't really do anything for the plant but saves nutes. If you were over feeding from the start then it will remove build ups during the later weeks when the plants want less. Flushing for that reason is fixing a problem you don't have to create.
''im also getting small buds and i was using flora trio...doesnt seem.to be the best option''
Any nutrient line fed in the right elemental ratio/amount will grow good bud . If you've badly over fed/bad ratio and/or other environment factors were out they all = bad yield by them selves or in combination. People around here use all different nutrient lines to get to the same end result. Check the forums for the likes of jacks, flora, canna and many more (powder nutes are the cheapest and easier tailored). If you are wanting to go organic, the section here is amazing on it but be prepared for a shit ton of reading. If you are going synthetic then 100% go coco, read up on it.
Buds are also strain dependent. Most of the plants that yield fast and heavy (like big bud and many variants) are not very good smoke. Most of the plants that finish in 8 weeks are also not very good smoke. The happy medium is strains like girl scout that take around 10 weeks if I recall, more interesting smoke and yield decent. If you want out of this world smoke, not just thc content, then you are looking at longer flower times and less yield per crop OR annually. This isn't true for every single strain but it's the general rule of thumb.
Most people find a happy medium in 10 to 12 week strains. Some very decent 9 week strains are around too, but take some time to research. For personal use who really cares do what you want, if for other endeavours think smart, quality can out do quantity with competition, yet remember quality or ''taste'' is subjective. A lot of smokers don't know shit and won't see the value in long runners, if in doubt run 10 week strains.
Topping techniques, veg time, climate, pot count/size, lighting and nutrients all play a role in getting close to said strains max potential. You have many hours of reading on those alone, none are more important than the other. You won't have to look long around here to see people with $$$ lights and shit plants...
Root zone temps is also over looked a lot. Below 60f roots begin to do bad things to the plant. If your intake is blasting cold air at the pots near by they will suffer and you won't know why. 70f root temps, direct the intake up into the air so it isn't blasting the root zone with too cold or too hot air. This is the root ZONE temp, you don't need to start prodding temp poles into your pots, just make sure the lower area is in temp range. Canopy temps vary depending on light choice, read into that.
Watering technique plays another over looked role. Infrequent or varied watering amount is bad. The roots may expand full pot when getting 3L per day, if you then become hit and miss every other day or less water, the coco will dry out at the edges and roots closer to that point will suffer. If you feed 3L per day or every other day to run off keep it like that. The only thing you should do is increase or reduce slightly the amount when you notice a lot less run off (mid flower) or a lot more run off (end flower). It stops nute build up with synthetics and also reduces waste. Some plants drink more than others, take notice of that, even if same strain/cuttings. This can be because they are bigger (does not mean better) or that the spot they are in is more optimal for root temps.. or it could also mean they are in a hot spot, try and fix that. In any case feed to individual needs to save water or ensure they get enough. It does matter, as much as lighting. For organic people don't tend to water to run off last I read, but they do need to be sure they are watering at the right time and amount, it's harder to get right as you don't have run off as a marker.
It's most definitely easier to get good results with coco. Some cling to the ethics of organics as they ironically fire up 3k watts of energy in the grow room, not to mention it still costs energy to create and transport organic materiel. Not to put you off organics, just do it for the right reasons as it isn't easy.
''is opening my jars in the 1st week twice a day for 10mins enough?''
Curing is daunting at first but plenty of good guides round here if you search. Don't go down the bovida pack? route. Do it the manual way where you get a feel for the buds drying and when to store long term. If you start depending on readers and automation you are utterly fucked if you run out or something goes wrong. Take it upon yourself and accept the risks involved with manually learning it properly.
When you read things around here don't take the first post and run with it. Check the dates and check multiple posters, it's an on-line forum like any, people use bad or out of date practices, you'll only begin to differentiate by reading multiple topics on the same things. You will find everything you need here though, if you are willing to put in the time.
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Lucky Luke
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I know this comes across as nasty and I don't mean it to be but please stop talking about something that you don't understand. New growers read what you say and take it as gospel rather than complete bullshit. Then the cycle of myths and misinformation continues.
CanadianJim
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Nutrients are the same chemical, whether they come from a bottle or composted vegetable matter in your soil. I prefer the compost, but if you're not overdoing it you'll get the same results with synthetic nutes. From a chemistry standpoint they're identical. The real difference is in what balance of macro and micro nutrients are made available to the plant. Compost should have all the necessary micro nutrients, calcium, magnesium, zinc, iron, etc. where you're more likely to need to supplement those sooner if you're relying on synthetics.
Mmm bullshit?you see the difference between us is I’m a grower not just a know it all commentator who puts his oar in to a conversation that has nothing to do with you.so I’m calling you out let’s see that grow you started in 2017 but why’ll I’m waiting here’s one of my Dwc girls 3 half weeks in so put up or shut up
Lucky Luke
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lol
and I have to add. You still didn't answer the question..
Edit: You recommended a Mars light on page one! Hahahhahahahahahahalolfkmethats sooofkn funny.
Tool.
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Looks to me and everyone else I was right you are in no position to be giving out info you don’t grow.you were called out and you just changed the subject.a true traits of a lair
Thundercat
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No you are quite wrong and just making your self look like a tool man. There is zero science behind flushing. You can't flush nutrients back out of a plant its not possible, that's not how biology works. The closest thing you can do is starve the plant by flushing nutrients out of the medium. But whats the plant do in response.....? It sucks all the stored nutrients out ot the leaves and pumps them directly into the buds it is trying to grow still. That's biology sir, not bro-science.
Also, don't bother with your "put up or shut up" attitude with me. If you want to see my plants you can check out my thread in my sig line. I'm not a know it all "pro", I'm always learning new stuff. However, I have grown a lot of plants in the last 13 years and have learned a few things.
I've flushed and not flushed side by side with the exact same clones grown the exact same way all the way until the end. Flushing does nothing relevant to smoke quality its all in your head. Smoke quality comes from genetics, how well you've grown the plant, and how good you are at slow drying.
I haven't flushed plants at harvest in years at this point, my buds are dank, and they both smell and taste great. People rave about my weed and they don't know I grow it. The only person to ever have a complaint about my weed was a grower friend of mine. He specifically knew I didn't flush and would always bitch about it, and that he could "taste" the nutrients. So a couple of years ago now I did a test, and I told him I started flushing and I wanted his opinion on the results. So he came over and tried that latest batch and was totally impressed. The thing is I never started flushing. I never changed anything, except the idea in his head.
Biology > Broscience
Was I taking to you?what’s wrong is he your bitch?im sure lucky puke can talk for him self you see I don’t get intimidated by o look at how long I’m in here if I need your advice which after 20 years I don’t think so oh did you get that phd of chemistry in uni or google so as I said mind you’re own business fuckin mouth
And I can’t look at your shit it’s private funny that you won’t intimidate me you’re a cannabis expert are you how come I’ve never heard of you what’s wrong to weird?as I said mine you’re own fuckin business
hellmutt bones
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Good job confusing op. So there is so many threads and about flushing and organic vs synthetic. Op experience will guide you through trial and error. Also research and use what you think is the best educated guess. Alot of ppl here are noobs and still learning. That includes myself. Been doing this since 2006 on my own and helped some gorilla grows since 1999. I can remember once someone told me to put baking soda in my reservoir.. needles to say I learned a very valuable lesson. Also remember the first time I decided not to flush.
Lucky Luke
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no, subject was the same. you still haven't answered the Q.
I don't "need" to post a pic on this thread. Ive had 4 or 5 grow threads and pics in the Frostiest bud thread and pics all over this site. I even have a grow going atm in my sig.....BTW those of us with links to grows in our sig put em out there by choice so you get no points for "calling me out". If fact u lose allot of points cause there is even a link....Good or bad the pics are put out there by choice.
But here ya go young fella. (might even be the one you were asking for).
HSO Black D.O.G
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Lucky Luke
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or was it the Skunk x Shit you were asking for? (yes I know I underfed it late in flower but they were some nice sized, dense stinky buds)
I got hundreds more if you want them, most better than the one you posted.
You going to answer that Q now?
I got hundreds more if you want them, most better than the one you posted.
You going to answer that Q now?
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swedsteven
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I flush 3 week this round... and will stick to 1 week for my next one !