Massachusetts Outdoor Grow 2019

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ScaryHarry45 said:
Why are people concerned with the heat? Cannabis is from equatorial regions. They love the fucking heat. I guess the major concern would be if you're growing in dinky little pots as its all about the root zone with these plants. Give your plants some root space for crying out loud. Pop those bitches in the ground and grow some god damn treeeeeeeeees
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I dont know anyone's individual reasons for being nervous about the heat. My plants love it. Just need to monitor their water needs and they do great.

For some guys, probably because they care about their plants a lot so they are making sure it wont be an issue. It could be the strain they are growing also. Not everyone is growing plants that love 100 degree weather. There are sativas and indicas that come from climates like ours (not equatorial) that can be bitchy about too much heat.

I'm done growing in the ground. Last year I lost almost my entire crop because of the horrible weather we had around here. It was rot/mold/looper central. Total waste of a year, no matter what tricks we pulled. Most of the guys in the northeast outdoor thread that weren't done early had catastrophic harvests. I'm never doing that again. Right now all my plants are in pots that I can move, and they are all around 6 feet tall from the dirt. I dont imagine I'll be complaining about size. That's plenty big enough for me, and I can dodge the Sept/Oct rain and give them the time they need to finish. I might go back in the ground with a few plants if I find some strains that finish super early, but other then that, I'm always gonna use pots. I like the control it gives me.
 
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BuildASoil Nutrient Kit - ClackamasCoots Style +Sphagnum Peat Moss Base - ClackamasCoots Style mixed with Coast of Maine Lobster Compost Quoddy Blend & Worm castings for soil.
Water with Yucca and Organic Freeze Dried Coconut powder 2x a week Foliar spray with Primordial Solutions "Sea of Green mixed with their Rootamentry every other day in till Start of flower then i use their True Bloom .

Although i really don't need to because all my Nutes are in my soil already . Also use Homemade Compost tea & Alfalfa and Blue Corn Seed sprout Tea all organic.
 
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I dont know anyone's individual reasons for being nervous about the heat. My plants love it. Just need to monitor their water needs and they do great.

For some guys, probably because they care about their plants a lot so they are making sure it wont be an issue. It could be the strain they are growing also. Not everyone is growing plants that love 100 degree weather. There are sativas and indicas that come from climates like ours (not equatorial) that can be bitchy about too much heat.

I'm done growing in the ground. Last year I lost almost my entire crop because of the horrible weather we had around here. It was rot/mold/looper central. Total waste of a year, no matter what tricks we pulled. Most of the guys in the northeast outdoor thread that weren't done early had catastrophic harvests. I'm never doing that again. Right now all my plants are in pots that I can move, and they are all around 6 feet tall from the dirt. I dont imagine I'll be complaining about size. That's plenty big enough for me, and I can dodge the Sept/Oct rain and give them the time they need to finish. I might go back in the ground with a few plants if I find some strains that finish super early, but other then that, I'm always gonna use pots. I like the control it gives me.[/QU I think he just being a Troll Blacky and if your growing for yourself and a few friends to partake in the goodness your plants are more then sufficient Sir :P
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I dont know anyone's individual reasons for being nervous about the heat. My plants love it. Just need to monitor their water needs and they do great.

For some guys, probably because they care about their plants a lot so they are making sure it wont be an issue. It could be the strain they are growing also. Not everyone is growing plants that love 100 degree weather. There are sativas and indicas that come from climates like ours (not equatorial) that can be bitchy about too much heat.

I'm done growing in the ground. Last year I lost almost my entire crop because of the horrible weather we had around here. It was rot/mold/looper central. Total waste of a year, no matter what tricks we pulled. Most of the guys in the northeast outdoor thread that weren't done early had catastrophic harvests. I'm never doing that again. Right now all my plants are in pots that I can move, and they are all around 6 feet tall from the dirt. I dont imagine I'll be complaining about size. That's plenty big enough for me, and I can dodge the Sept/Oct rain and give them the time they need to finish. I might go back in the ground with a few plants if I find some strains that finish super early, but other then that, I'm always gonna use pots. I like the control it gives me.
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Cannabis originated around the equator not much of a debate there. Maybe other than Ruderalis which even then may have originated in equatorial regions. Yes cannabis has been grown and selectively bred in other places like Holland , New England, California etc.. but in my experience they all love the heat when the root zone is in check . As I mentioned the health of your plant is directly correlated to the health of the root zone. Plants get root bound real fast in pots outside unless you're running like 100g smart pots or more. And in the heat in pots the root zone heats up which is why plants seem to be effected by it. Never had an issue with heat when plants are in the ground. Not to mention it takes a lot more care and effort taking care of potted cannabis plants. I havent even watered my shit more than a couple times and the only reason I did was to keep the mulch layer moist. Another thing most of you guys in pots are missing. Mulch! What a world of difference that makes .

Losing most of your crop was probably more a result of choosing poor genetics for our climate. That's the number one limiting factor in New England. Not necessarily finish time. It's more about the resistance to mold, mildew , pests and overall structure of the plant and timing for sure. In fact my later finishers did better last year as the heaviest rain fell in August and Sept when my early stuff like Freezeland and Erdbeer were ripening.

If you dont mind me asking what size pots are you growing in?
 
BigSco508

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ScaryHarry45 said:
Why are people concerned with the heat? Cannabis is from equatorial regions. They love the fucking heat. I guess the major concern would be if you're growing in dinky little pots as its all about the root zone with these plants. Give your plants some root space for crying out loud. Pop those bitches in the ground and grow some god damn treeeeeeeeees
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ScaryHarry45 said:
Cannabis originated around the equator not much of a debate there. Maybe other than Ruderalis which even then may have originated in equatorial regions. Yes cannabis has been grown and selectively bred in other places like Holland , New England, California etc.. but in my experience they all love the heat when the root zone is in check . As I mentioned the health of your plant is directly correlated to the health of the root zone. Plants get root bound real fast in pots outside unless you're running like 100g smart pots or more. And in the heat in pots the root zone heats up which is why plants seem to be effected by it. Never had an issue with heat when plants are in the ground. Not to mention it takes a lot more care and effort taking care of potted cannabis plants. I havent even watered my shit more than a couple times and the only reason I did was to keep the mulch layer moist. Another thing most of you guys in pots are missing. Mulch! What a world of difference that makes .

Losing most of your crop was probably more a result of choosing poor genetics for our climate. That's the number one limiting factor in New England. Not necessarily finish time. It's more about the resistance to mold, mildew , pests and overall structure of the plant and timing for sure. In fact my later finishers did better last year as the heaviest rain fell in August and Sept when my early stuff like Freezeland and Erdbeer were ripening.

If you dont mind me asking what size pots are you growing in?
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"Around the equator" and "equatorial" are different things. And apparently, there is some debate. Because according to Dr. Barney Warf and E.L. Abel...
"Cannabis plants evolved on the steppes of Central Asia, specifically in the regions that are now Mongolia and southern Siberia.The history of cannabis use goes back as far as 12,000 years, which places the plant among humanity's oldest cultivated crops."
From "Marihuana: The First Twelve Thousand Years" (E.L. Abel 1980).

Circle 1 is the southernmost area they referenced (they also referenced Southern Siberia, which is WAAAYYY further north then that as the point if origin). Circle 2 is the equator.
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So we can agree there is evidently some debate.

That debate being "You (or whomever you are referencing) vs. Dr. Barney Warf and E.L. Abel"... one of whom is the guy that wrote the book (plus 30 others collectively) on the geographical history of cannabis.

I haven't had any issues with plants being root bound or over heating.

Mulch is a fine idea. Hasnt been a determining factor for me.

I dont believe the 25 or 30 of us in the thread last year all had inferior genetics for this climate. Last year was universally regarded as a nightmare finish for people in MA. There were some guys that had ones that did better than others, like I said, but for the most part we all had strains that have finished successfully year after year outdoors get nuked by the weather.

I have pots ranging from 5gal to 25gal.
 
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I have plants outside on the deck in 16 quart plastic pots and some inside in 5 gallon bags (16 quarts) and they seem the perfect size to grow the 3' tall plants I try for. My 1st grow outside and i'm amazed at the beating from the wind they take and bounce right back. I'm just letting it grow natural, no trimming or topping, I like how it looks. Funny thing is I also planted a bunch of different flowers from seed and everything is now dead, these are growing perfectly.
 
dubekoms

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Anyone's plants starting to flower? Noticing a couple of my satellite cindys are getting quite stretchy with some pistils showing up. Might be on track to finish mid September but we'll see.
 
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dubekoms said:
Anyone's plants starting to flower? Noticing a couple of my satellite cindys are getting quite stretchy with some pistils showing up. Might be on track to finish mid September but we'll see.
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They are deff getting ready. Most of mine are at least. I'm gonna start transitioning nutes soon.
 
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They are deff getting ready. Most of mine are at least. I'm gonna start transitioning nutes soon.
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How can you tell if it's transitioning? Just see pistils forming?

Second question - I'm starting a few photoperiod seeds now (3 of 6 have sprouted) and was gonna leave them outside for a few weeks / or a month. At what point should I worry about setting up the tent and bringing them inside? Early September? Can I push it if the weather isn't cold?
 
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All i know is if this Apple Jaxx smells /tastes like it is smelling right now after it's cured . It's sure to be a Fan Fave i have 2 that smell just like a bowl of leftover milk from the Cereal.o_O :shock:
The and the other 2 smell like Apple Jolly Ranchers kind of flipping excited to see what i'm working with Late Sept. /Early Oct. cant come soon enough for me !! :hump:

Wish my at the very least 1 out of the 2 Super Trons i planted was a Female. I really like that Fresh Poo Smell coming off the both of them I'm weird i guess.

But hey what are you going to do right but save the pollen to work with when my room is done in Oct. I hope everyone is having a Great Season so far " I Know i am " and continued success the rest of the way threw !!
 
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Got everything top dressed with compost, wood chips and flower tone today. Satellite cindys are definitely flowering with some pistils and tiny buds starting to show up. One of the tennessee kush has a bunch of holes bored into its stems, opened a stem up and found a inch long grub.

Some shitty pictures20190726_180014-1.jpg 20190726_165308.jpg 20190726_165313.jpg 20190726_175758-1.jpg 20190726_174905.jpg
 
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